tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post2843318521649582650..comments2023-11-02T05:00:36.315-04:00Comments on Democratic Convention Watch: Open ThreadMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02126730290750804530noreply@blogger.comBlogger4317125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-76309642039847416292008-06-02T14:03:00.000-04:002008-06-02T14:03:00.000-04:00New Open Thread hereNew Open Thread <A HREF="http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/04/open-thread-9.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>Oreohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12605488381872007551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-5585976658893535042008-06-02T13:53:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:53:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.vwishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01868973765879894410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-36562283259781173142008-06-02T13:51:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:51:00.000-04:00by the way.. here is one thought for you all to po...by the way.. here is one thought for you all to ponder.<BR/><BR/>there are 229 supers remaining.<BR/>some have only a half vote. <BR/>so this is not yet over when you consider that Hillary has picked up two 2 full delegates to obama's 3 of which 2 were 1/2 votes. It has me worried because I am an obama supporter. This is not a done deal, it could end up as a tie or a near tie. So if your a praying kind of person, I would recommend you do so.greywolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041045517740861539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-34929745454678429292008-06-02T13:50:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:50:00.000-04:00I would like to here from Obama Supporters som rea...I would like to here from Obama Supporters som real information.<BR/><BR/>First off I would like to know how giving the middle class a tax deduction of $1,000 is going to help if you double the capital gains tax which will effect retirement funds of those same middle class people?<BR/><BR/>I also would like to hear a real immediate energy solution! We have 1.9 million truck drivers struggling and losing their business's and farmers having trouble breaking even on diesel.<BR/><BR/>I have family serving in Iraq I am a little offended when what they are doing over there is diminished by a person who hasn't been there but once.<BR/><BR/>I know at least my brother and two cousins serving feel they are making a difference.<BR/><BR/>I have listened to televised Obama speeches. He is excellent at putting down all the current policies what is lacking is the exact platform he stands on.<BR/><BR/>Now chant with me folks<BR/><BR/>"Change"<BR/>"Hope"<BR/>"Change"<BR/>"Hope"<BR/><BR/>Well I tried but I fail to see exact substance in that frantic meditation.ctlivewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06888191341506019137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-15784814159244286752008-06-02T13:48:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:48:00.000-04:00Well, I just got home from work and have caught up...Well, I just got home from work and have caught up on this morning's postings.<BR/><BR/>Aunt Jean??? What happened to you?? Remember a few days ago you were calm and rational? Remember how several bloggers here responded that they understood, though didn't agree? Remember how pleasant it was? <BR/><BR/>I really liked responding to your posts, which were not angry and abusive. Play nice.Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17964374453128401532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-37187758608665756452008-06-02T13:46:00.001-04:002008-06-02T13:46:00.001-04:00Sorry all Clinton fans, but just saw something fun...Sorry all Clinton fans, but just saw something funny I had to comment on. No offense meant.<BR/><BR/>Looking at the delegate status box in the upper left tab it looks like Clinton needs 5200.5 delegates. ;o)<BR/><BR/>I know it's only 200.5, but it gave me a smile. Maybe time to get my glasses checked again.Emit R Detsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16551898410943736505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-42298326134201227522008-06-02T13:46:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:46:00.000-04:00Well I have had my say for now. Time to go out and...Well I have had my say for now. Time to go out and search the web more. You folks have a nice day and be nice to each other, please.greywolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041045517740861539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-32714268653564354432008-06-02T13:45:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:45:00.000-04:00Bill Clinton opening a speech today: "I want to s...Bill Clinton opening a speech today: <BR/><BR/>"I want to say also that this may be the last day I'm ever involved in a campaign of this kind. I thought I was out of politics, 'til Hillary decided to run. But it has been, one of the greatest honors of my life to go around and campaign for her for president," said Clinton as he began his speech. <BR/><BR/>The fat lady is warming up.Kerylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00687563411658244780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-89816534137712532192008-06-02T13:38:00.002-04:002008-06-02T13:38:00.002-04:00Vicki said... Dr. in AA, I'm a physician, too. I t...Vicki said... <BR/>Dr. in AA, I'm a physician, too. I think she goes on/off her meds periodically. JMHO. (and probably more time off meds, than on)<BR/><BR/>Vicki - couldn't agree with you more. But it's possible that if she goes back on them her suicidal ideation risk will go back up and then...well, I wouldn't want to SAY it...Dr. in Ann Arborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10216420593188602666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-85911898767264252042008-06-02T13:38:00.001-04:002008-06-02T13:38:00.001-04:00Just a few side notes also...1. We need at least ...Just a few side notes also...<BR/><BR/>1. We need at least 30 to 35 SD to jump in now and seal this deal completely before Tuesday. That will remove any problems so that we as a party can begin to move forward.<BR/><BR/>2. All this in-house bickering, name calling, candidate slamming and such really needs to stop. The candidates have taken the high road in that they are no longer attacking each other as they both realize that it is time to come together. Yes there still remains some posturing and such, but that is normal after such a long hard fought battle for the nomination.<BR/>I would like to propose that in honor of those two great candidates, regardless of how we may feel about them individually, and stop all this nit picky bickering. It at this point and time is completely counter productive and discredits the candidates attempt to bring some so level of civility to the end of the race. Yes civility, although you may not see it, it is there.greywolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041045517740861539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-28495186918671018202008-06-02T13:38:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:38:00.000-04:00My, my things have gotten ugly today. Aunt Jean, ...My, my things have gotten ugly today. <BR/><BR/>Aunt Jean, your comment about JayW is really out of line. The fact that you can't see the racist leanings of your commentary is not good. I support you on this site but I think you've gone too far, and have then gone further by blaming the people who are calling you out on it. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps you'd like to identify the race of all other posters based on what they say on these boards? I urge you to step away and do some serious soul searching before you post again.<BR/><BR/>Although, mistaking the Obama photo for a picture of JayW was the first time I have actually laughed out loud at a post. That was a good one.Kerylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00687563411658244780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-51474131249691941242008-06-02T13:36:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:36:00.000-04:00Dr. in AA, I'm a physician, too. I think she goes...Dr. in AA, I'm a physician, too. I think she goes on/off her meds periodically. JMHO. (and probably more time off meds, than on)Vicki in Seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478641448564447958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-83961127170573501592008-06-02T13:34:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:34:00.000-04:00Vwis,No I didn't hear, but you may deduce my views...Vwis,<BR/><BR/>No I didn't hear, but you may deduce my views <A HREF="http://home2.btconnect.com/tipiglen/primer.html" REL="nofollow">here</A><BR/><BR/>I believe, as Gush Shalom says, "Peace is with enemies" Of course we should talk with and engage everyone.<BR/><BR/>I think I can guess McChip's position.<BR/><BR/>here, from a <A HREF="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/06/not_finding_the_votes.html#comment90" REL="nofollow">BBC blogsite</A>:<BR/><BR/>David,<BR/><BR/>"They know he [McChip] isn't influenced strongly by religious figures "<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/pastor-hagee-the-antichri_b_104608.html" REL="nofollow">But he sought out this one's endorsement</A>! <BR/><BR/>On March 16, 2003, on the eve of the United States' invasion of Iraq, Pastor John Hagee took to the pulpit to warn of the coming Antichrist. In his sermon, "The Final Dictator," Hagee described the Antichrist as a seductive figure with "fierce features." He will be "a blasphemer and a homosexual," the pastor announced. Then, Hagee boomed, "There's a phrase in Scripture used solely to identify the Jewish people. It suggests that this man [the Antichrist] is at least going to be partially Jewish, as was Adolph Hitler, as was Karl Marx."<BR/><BR/>One more rash alliance he has lived ot regret, yet meantime, his good buddy <A HREF="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/pastor-hagee-the-antichri_b_104608.html" REL="nofollow">Joe Lieberman is headlining an event sponsored by Hagee.</A><BR/><BR/>Wonders never cease!<BR/><BR/>Assalaam 'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu <BR/>Peace, God's mercy and blessings be upon you (We'll all need it!)ed igleharthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17504664781958416390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-84522812332753055412008-06-02T13:33:00.001-04:002008-06-02T13:33:00.001-04:00Per Sasha Johnson, CNN:"If all the primary results...Per Sasha Johnson, CNN:<BR/><BR/>"If all the primary results including Florida and Michigan are counted, but not the caucus votes, Clinton leads in the popular vote 17,461,845 to Obama's 17,244,762, according to CNN estimates."<BR/><BR/>"In a second scenario, which adds CNN's estimate of the caucus-goers, Obama leads Clinton 17,928,000 to 17,843,000."<BR/><BR/>As has been said many time, the popular vote doesn't really count, Michigan had an invalid (and technically uncountable) election, and since they don't count heads at every Caucus (I find that odd), you can choose your own spin. There really is no way to "Count" every popular vote. Bottome line is the delegate count.<BR/><BR/>08ama!Emit R Detsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16551898410943736505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-65993727680009467912008-06-02T13:33:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:33:00.000-04:00vwis,LOL! Very good point. Darn, who will take t...vwis,<BR/>LOL! Very good point. Darn, who will take the job then?apissedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16808000212802563001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-90926061223305695152008-06-02T13:31:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:31:00.000-04:00Aunt Jean said... DR in ann arbor if you are a doc...Aunt Jean said... <BR/>DR in ann arbor if you are a doctor I'm the queen of England. You are about one sick Piece Of SH##. Jean<BR/><BR/><BR/>Well, then, queenie, you must be off your meds yet again. I AM a physician, and also a human being and an American. What I do for a living is immaterial here, except if you think that physicians are supposed to be 'above it all.' But I can't stand idly by while you trash everyone on this site just because they don't subscribe to your (incorrect) point of view, and refuse to talk reasonably to people. Maybe your parents AREN'T first cousins. But if not, then one of them SURELY is a Cape Buffalo.Dr. in Ann Arborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10216420593188602666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-30963134267201843662008-06-02T13:27:00.001-04:002008-06-02T13:27:00.001-04:00Just a tid bit of information.An interview with Do...Just a tid bit of information.<BR/><BR/>An interview with Donna Brazil on Huffington Post. <BR/><BR/>For those that think of Obama in terms that are not very nice; I would like to point out that Donna made a statement where she explained the following.<BR/><BR/>Obama had the votes needed to split Michigan at 50/50, however Obama would not allow that vote to go forward. He insisted that CLinton be given a fair chance to negotiate a number that was more to her benifit. When given such an opportunity, not one person from the Clinton camp, (not even Hillary herself) made any attempt to contact anyone with in the RBC or any uncommitted super delegate. <BR/>NOT ONE ATTEMPT. Thus shunning the olive branch offered by Obama to Hillary, the RBC made the decision to go with the recommendation made by the state leadership.<BR/><BR/>So what ever you may think of Obama, it was he, who gave in Florida, as well as Michigan and extended the opportunity to Hillary to negociate a number directly with the RBC. It was her failure to respond in any way that resulted in the numbers being handed out as they were.greywolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041045517740861539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-82587345583250001612008-06-02T13:27:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:27:00.000-04:00DNFTT!xxedDNFTT!<BR/><BR/>xx<BR/>eded igleharthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17504664781958416390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-83950321965056569852008-06-02T13:22:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:22:00.000-04:00Ant,Would you wish that upon your worst enemy?Ed,D...Ant,<BR/><BR/>Would you wish that upon your worst enemy?<BR/><BR/>Ed,<BR/><BR/>Did you hear McCain's views this morning on Hasbullah and Israel? What's your point of view?vwishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01868973765879894410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-40696293234928500982008-06-02T13:18:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:18:00.000-04:00Obama picks up two MI supers. DNC- Brenda Lawrenc...Obama picks up two MI supers. <BR/><BR/>DNC- Brenda Lawrence<BR/>DNC- Lu Battaglieri <BR/><BR/>He just covered his first hour vwis. :DDilbuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150271911494692213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-592607020686885982008-06-02T13:16:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:16:00.000-04:00what the Knight family just said - I live in WA st...what the Knight family just said - I live in WA state too. My caucus was also PACKED. literally, we didn't have enough room, and some precincts decided to meet outdoors because the room exceeded the fire code.<BR/><BR/>PACKED. I think we had literally 10 times more than was expected.<BR/><BR/>the primary was later, it was a "beauty contest", and didn't have nearly the turnout.Vicki in Seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478641448564447958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-51040164695562764122008-06-02T13:13:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:13:00.000-04:00I wonder if Hillary is conceding tomorrow night si...I wonder if Hillary is conceding tomorrow night since she is returning to NYC? I guess we shall wait and see. Should be a pretty interesting 36-48 hours.Dilbuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150271911494692213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-59808387725818320472008-06-02T13:12:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:12:00.000-04:00If it weren't for bad news there would be no news ...If it weren't for bad news there would be no news at all.<BR/><BR/>Ted Kennedy is having surgery<BR/>Bo Diddy dies at 79<BR/>Inferno at Universal Studios<BR/>Dow plunges 200 pts<BR/>Oil nears 130 record high, Nat gas at $12-$13 (it start at under $3 about 6 yrs ago, record high after Katrina was $15)<BR/>All commodities up<BR/>Only 2 new SDs endorsements for Obama, last I checked. (We need about 1/hr to have a nominee tomorrow.)<BR/><BR/>Let's hope this deluge of bad news turns around.vwishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01868973765879894410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-77478639584560171132008-06-02T13:08:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:08:00.000-04:00Aunt Jean,You are "the" model of RESPECT and MANNE...Aunt Jean,<BR/><BR/>You are "the" model of RESPECT and MANNERS. You've never allowed a "rude" comment to go unanswered. Nor have you let one "insult" be leveled at your candidate without a more divisive and angry response.<BR/><BR/>You've clearly identified that you harbor animosity towards "the other side" and have marginalized AA support for one candidate while reflecting that female support for Hillary is rational.<BR/><BR/>You've clearly made the case that you believe that Obama is liar. <BR/><BR/>There are some of us who would not support Hillary for the same reason. We belive that she is a liar. We believe that she is bad for the country. That she offers the same old-time politics. <BR/><BR/>I go beyond that. I believe she is a classic 'enabler' when it comes to Bill's long history of philandering. At her core, I believe that she has a history of denying the truth. I believe her history and vindictiveness echo the personality traits that brought down Nixon.<BR/><BR/>I believe that she felt 'entitled' to the nomination. That she is motivated to do anything to gain, hold and wield power. That she is willing to do and say anything. <BR/><BR/>So, if you are looking to blame someone for Hillary's failure to get the nomination, I suggest that it's entirely Hillary's fault. She also let Bill, who is mentally diminished since his heart bypass, alienate her from voting blocks she would need to win the nomination. <BR/><BR/>You may have a woman to vote for in 2008 GE, it just won't be her.jpsedonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481057330994650215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-82900546020567524932008-06-02T12:34:00.000-04:002008-06-02T12:34:00.000-04:00leahtexas[not]4obama you know good well the caucus...leahtexas[not]4obama you know good well the caucuses were a joke and in favor of obama.So pleaseeeee don't hand me that crap. JeanAunt Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17251991362739288588noreply@blogger.com