tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post4880290049303322458..comments2023-11-02T05:00:36.315-04:00Comments on Democratic Convention Watch: Do Superdelegates vote the same as their constituents?Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02126730290750804530noreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-85309061505561835062008-05-29T12:59:00.000-04:002008-05-29T12:59:00.000-04:00TOCB,They will vote at the convention.They can swi...TOCB,<BR/>They will vote at the convention.<BR/><BR/>They can switch at any point up until then. There is nothing that forces them to vote. There will be supers that will stay home and not vote at all.Oreohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12605488381872007551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-46613369853370355252008-05-29T12:54:00.000-04:002008-05-29T12:54:00.000-04:00Can superdelegates vote before the convention?Can superdelegates vote before the convention?TOCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441993013588255697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-23919751070998630932008-05-17T16:56:00.000-04:002008-05-17T16:56:00.000-04:00Sorry for the typos above, rushing. But my point a...Sorry for the typos above, rushing. But my point above is simply, OBAMA stands a much greater chance to become the first Black Vice President, than he does President. If he is the democratic candidate, my call is that he loses to McCain. The superticket Hilary/Obama (not the other way around), is the sure shot bet to win back the White House. Wake up and smell the flowers! The media hype around OBAMA is just that, media hype, and Americans love media hype and are extremely gullible believing it, and then reality hits them smack in the face. How else does Bush get reelected if everyone hated him so much. Get real! What happened with Kerry, Gore. Let's face it, the Dems need a victory, and we need the warmongers out of the oval office. Halliburton have made enough money with the Bush Family, which let's not forger, is friends with the Binladens. The last thing we need is wishful thinking about a Cinderalla Kid like Obama, which frankly is not cut for too many white Americans. This wasn't a White/Black race until it became one, for whatever reason. The Obama speech on the racial devide, was perhaps the best public speech ever made about the issue, but it put the issue smack in the middle of the election, and the 42 point spread at West Virginia, shows exactly how white America feels about the possibility of a Black President. Choosing Obama is probably what's right, morally, but it will also mean for the Dems to sit it out another 4 years, god forbid, 8! Politics are not about moral ethics, feel good candidates, or media frenzies, policits are about political power, and savey statesmen (and maybe, women), but you can't sit in the head honcho seat if you don't win the elections. Democrats have traditionally been far too intelectual to win much. Dems think too much, talk to much, debate too much, and then fiz out. The Clinton's have shown that they can get past that, and govern, and White americans sitting on the Republican/Democrat divide, willing to fall on either side for the right person, will trust Hilary before they trust Obama, and that is simply a cold hard reality. If the dems want to sit and quabble about mathematics and the populat vote (Gore did), then Obama will take over Gore's powerpoint presentation about cliamte change and open with his now deflated line, "Hello, I was the next president of the United States". Get real, and get over it, and understand that it's Hilary/Obama to the White House or sit it out again!danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776607905701002038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-73540407476059234222008-05-17T16:41:00.000-04:002008-05-17T16:41:00.000-04:00So here is my call. Obama must understand that he ...So here is my call. Obama must understand that he will not beat MCCAIN. If he's a real politician, which I have no doubt he is (despite his rhetoric - how else do you write off the Reverend !?) then he will understand that it is far more important that he become the First Vice President of the United States under Hilary as pres, than loose the White to McCain. Let's be real, and policians usually are too real. Hilary is the only viable candidate to break the loosing streak!danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776607905701002038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-73521707106652430902008-05-17T16:37:00.000-04:002008-05-17T16:37:00.000-04:00Everyone keeps talking about the undecided Superde...Everyone keeps talking about the undecided Superdelegates. Well, what about the ones that HAVE decided, since in fact THEY HAVE NOT decided until they decide, which is when they vote. WHat's the chance of a switch vote at the end???? Many decided long ago, and many things have changed! See my next comment and question.danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776607905701002038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-379507553918915512008-05-17T16:36:00.000-04:002008-05-17T16:36:00.000-04:00Here is a question I can't seem to find an answer ...Here is a question I can't seem to find an answer to, and along with it a comment. <BR/><BR/>Is the Superdelegate vote SECRET? Let remember, even though superdelegates have said they will vote one way or another, what holds them back from changing. If they commited long ago, they could now change their vote based on how the primary election has evolved. <BR/><BR/>My sense is that there will be A LOT of pressure for the SDs to vote for OBAMA, and that none will want to vote otherwise if the public knows there vote, BUT if they believe Hilary can beat MCCAIN, and the vote is secret, what's stopping them from switching sides in the darkness of the election booth??????? If it is secret, I wouldn't be surprized with an unanticipated Hilary Sweep. Why else is she hanging on? The CLINTONS are EXTREMELY SAVELY POLITICIANS and they know how this works, perhaps they have some thoughts on how a secret vote to win the whitehouse (and not theprimaries) really works out. Someone please shed some light for me!? jdtaillant@gmail.comdanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17776607905701002038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-43024455480337049772008-02-21T18:56:00.000-05:002008-02-21T18:56:00.000-05:00Can you imagine the dismay of Obama's supporters i...Can you imagine the dismay of Obama's supporters if his lead in the popular vote is overturned by political fiat? Imagine how they would pass without voting in November due to lack of trust for a political party that is far more interested in the status quo. I don't have a dog in this hunt and I am not particularly partial to anyone running currently. But I would much rather see a liberal without the political baggage go against a conservative than have another series of Clintonesque self-serving policies put into play.Ellen Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02845981491726296767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-89443269072010757182008-02-18T15:12:00.000-05:002008-02-18T15:12:00.000-05:00I find most of the comments on this blog baffling....I find most of the comments on this blog baffling. I see many calls for bloggers / voters to do their research followed by claims of experience or lack there of by certain candidates. Likewise, there are many comments about rhetoric verses solution focused.<BR/><BR/>A couple things to think about when posting these remarks. State what you consider to equate or constitue experience, even have some specific examples. When you claim that your candidate has more detailed solutions, make sure you can back that up. Lastly, don't stereotype and box people in with over reaching statements such as low income people, women, or latinos. They don't fit, and those of us who fall into those arbitrarily constructed boxes don't appreciate it. <BR/><BR/>I spent a full year researching the candidates, their stances on issues that affect me, and looking up their voting records both as US Senators (Library of Congress online) and as State Senators if that shoe fits. I also looked into their education backgrounds, what they did after college with their legal careers and political careers. <BR/><BR/>I am a single mom with an annual income of less than $12K per year, I hold a Bachelor's degree in a field I can no longer work in due to an injury. I have volunteered my time as a bilingual tutor, a children's advocate and a women's advocate. I mention these because people like myself are being pigeonholed as women who vote for Sen. Clinton. I did not.<BR/><BR/>At the end of my research, after speaking with or listening to local politicians and national polticians, after reading the text of the resolution to authorize the use of force in Iraq and the full text of both Sen. Clinton's and Sen. Obama's speeches on the resoltuion and the ammendements to that resolution, after carefully reading both health care plans and the independent analysis of Sen. Obama's health plan, I made my own educated decision. <BR/><BR/>It is clear to me after reading the detailed plans (or not so detaied) on each of the candidate's web sites, and researching the implications both nationally and personally, that Sen. Obama will do more for our country as a whole, and to create a community where I can truly achieve my personal goal of self sufficiency and truly support my family.<BR/><BR/>My research led to my understanding of when the DNCC set the rules for delegate selection which includes allowable dates of primaries / caucuses for the states and the plan for how people become delegates (8/06), the deadline for states to submit their state rules for delegate selection (5/07), the penalty for states failing to follow the rules outlined, and when and how both Florida and Michigan violated those rules. It is VERY interesting to realize that all states were given the DNC rules in August of 06 and had until May of 07 to submit their Plan for Delegate selection, that Florida voted on a bill to move the date of its presidential preference primary AFTER that 5/07 deadline with full awareness of the fact that the minimum penalty to be imposed was clearly defined as loss of 50% of the delegates, and could be increased. Michigan didn't followed suit, but not until November of 07, knowing full well that Florida had already been penalized, and to what extent. The research reveals WHY states try to move up their primaries, the political and economic motivations behind doing so, and why the DNC is in a position of having to mitigate that temptation. The people of Michigan and Florida need to hold accountable their state legislators for this problem, not one of the candidates or the DNC. <BR/><BR/>For Hilary Clinton to try to have the delegates from these state reinstated without some sort of do over contest speaks loudly to many of us about the type of president she will be for our country. She, as a member of the DNC and as a candidate, agreed that the rules were valid, that the states should be penalized for their actions, and even verbally agreed to the sanctions the candidates were asked to follow. For her to then leave her name on the ballot in Michigan and then request those delegates be seated in her favor is unconscionable and shows us that Sen. Clinton feels she can decide when and if the rules apply to her.Kirsten Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06713559277159124439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-82977508721407293332008-02-16T21:43:00.000-05:002008-02-16T21:43:00.000-05:00Richard Port (HI) is already on the list for Clint...Richard Port (HI) is already on the list for Clinton.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02126730290750804530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-5911575545509943672008-02-16T18:16:00.000-05:002008-02-16T18:16:00.000-05:00The comments on this blog are interesting to say t...The comments on this blog are interesting to say the least. Are you democrats or independents? If your guy/gal doesn't win you are voting for McCain or independent. Talk about disenfranchised. The republicans are counting on this type of non-unified mindset. The bottom line is the super delegates should vote for the candidate their constituents selected. Since the democrats split everything according to popular vote, the super delegates should split accordingly. I am from MI and the whole thing makes me sick. We couldn't even vote for Obama or Edwards. We had to vote "noncommitted" which is a lot of crap. Many committed voters didn't vote in the primary because 1. we couldn't even write our candidates name in it wouldn't count and 2. our votes weren't going to count in the long run anyway. Now Clinton wants them to count. Rules are rules and if you agreed to them at the onset, it speaks volume to your character when you change your mind with 3 seconds left in the game and in field goal position for the win, which is what will happen if MI and FL super delegates are sat.<BR/><BR/>If you're a democrat then be a democrat. Fight for your candidate to the end, but in the end accept what the majority chose. That is the democratic way.luxiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08422715892168968899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-68828972557282348882008-02-16T14:15:00.000-05:002008-02-16T14:15:00.000-05:00Subodh, I could not agree with you more!Subodh, I could not agree with you more!olestuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15789887685434474172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-40445721459351997602008-02-16T14:13:00.000-05:002008-02-16T14:13:00.000-05:00Add one more to the Clinton column for Hawaii, as ...Add one more to the Clinton column for Hawaii, as listed on the committed page, DNC Richard Port http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080210/NEWS05/802100359/1001/NEWS05Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-62175924737589858202008-02-16T12:28:00.000-05:002008-02-16T12:28:00.000-05:00Superdelegates were created to give sanity to the ...Superdelegates were created to give sanity to the primary process. Hillary is winning all the big states and that is where democrats always win. It should be a Hillary /Obama ticket and we can then beat the republicans hands down. Obama is not ready yet . After 8 years he will be ready. He needs to wait his turn. Like Reagon did, like Nixon did. He is still a trainee. Look at his web site . It looks like it was made by a graduate student. Compare it with Hillary Clinton's web site and you can tell who will do a better job of running the country.Subodhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07983565252639268714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-36264614324611078592008-02-15T10:25:00.000-05:002008-02-15T10:25:00.000-05:00Which candidate has consistently demonstrated comm...Which candidate has consistently demonstrated commitment, hard work, efficiency, and accountability. How can one be held accountable for rhetoric and not solutions? How can one be held accountable for generalities and not specifics? <BR/><BR/>Hillary Clinton is this candicate. She has repeatedly drawn to her the lower income, less privileged, least educated people in our country. Those are the ones who most need help. It is her message of specifics, not rhetoric that has given these voters hope. <BR/><BR/>In addition, it would be political suicide for the fall election not to count the votes in MI and FL. Those are two states democrats must carry to win! <BR/><BR/>Having a “do over” in the form of a caucus because it’s cheaper for the state party or a full fledged primary after all other states have voted would be both unwise and unfair. It would create havoc in the national party, not to mention the electorate at large.<BR/><BR/>From the outside, this appears to many like a power struggle within the DNC: “We told you not to do it, you did it anyway, so we’re going to punish you”!! Who is the “you” being punished? The decision makers in the state party structure or the people of the state and nation??? <BR/><BR/>Prove to the nation that the Democratic Party IS the party of the people by seating the delegates of MI and FL and allowing them to cast their vote for their states’ preference. To do anything less would be “undemocratic”.olestuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15789887685434474172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-78082238405373316502008-02-14T16:48:00.000-05:002008-02-14T16:48:00.000-05:00And have you seen Obamas neck? I have a feeling h...And have you seen Obamas neck? I have a feeling he'd have a hard time lifting a regular football, let alone one with a nuclear warhead in it.dwithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01589386814983335159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-86882331053804559362008-02-14T16:27:00.000-05:002008-02-14T16:27:00.000-05:00Anon,Who cares about New York? Your state's const...Anon,<BR/><BR/>Who cares about New York? Your state's constituents along with those in California have been running our party for a long time now and look where it has gotten us. Just love your work in Iraq and Palestine.<BR/><BR/>I think its time to turn the machine on its head and it is states like Idaho, Washington, Nevada and Oregon that have done just that. <BR/><BR/>Finally! Our votes out West count for something. This is the way democracy works. ALL registered voters get to have their say.<BR/><BR/>Obama understood this from the outset of his campaign. Its time to break the oligarchy you guys have created over the last half century.dwithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01589386814983335159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-34594145955364108512008-02-14T15:53:00.000-05:002008-02-14T15:53:00.000-05:00I Am A Democrat, Have Been For About 20 Years, I H...I Am A Democrat, Have Been For About 20 Years, I Have Loyally Voted Democrat, Even Fanatically Choosing Not To Vote For County Positions Like Clerks, Who Happen To Be An Unopposed Republican.<BR/><BR/>Now That I Got That Out Of The Way Here Is What I Think, I Will Vote For John McCain If This Delegation Elects Barack Obama The Nominee!<BR/><BR/>I Am Not Comfortable With Barack Obama On National Security, Or Commander In Cheif Issues!<BR/><BR/>I DO NOT WANT HIM TO HOLD THE NUCLEAR FOOTBALL!<BR/><BR/>Hillary Clinton Is Just Liberal Enough For Me Like Many In Rural Areas, Like Upstate New York Where I Live!<BR/><BR/>I Have Seen Earlier A Post Which Suggested McCain May Cut A Path Across BLUE STATES, Well My Feeling Is If Barack Is The Nominee He Will Have To Fight HARD To Hold Onto My State Of New York, And Along With Those It Is Legitimate To Assume Florida Will Fold To McCain When They Remember How Obama SHUTS OUT THE FLORIDA VOTERS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE DELEGATES!<BR/><BR/>I Personally Have 1 Vote But Mine Is An Opinion Which I Know Will Multiply Like A Back-lash If States Like freakin Idaho Decide The Democratic Nominee!<BR/><BR/>Superdelegates Should Be Wise To Head The Warning Of The BLUE STATE BASE!<BR/><BR/>In Any Event If Barack Wins By Shutting Out Florida And Michigan Voters I Will Register Independant And I Will Be Lost To The Reach Of Democrats For Votes This November!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-60549588117908737742008-02-14T15:51:00.000-05:002008-02-14T15:51:00.000-05:00I've been sitting back for a while and looking at ...I've been sitting back for a while and looking at all of you make your arguments for and against one candidate or the other.<BR/><BR/>Pretty sure most of the posters here are staffers.<BR/><BR/>Bottom line, is that BOTH Clinton and Obama are fantastic candidates and either would make a wonderful president compared to what we have seen over the past 8 years.<BR/><BR/>I am more concerned about Congress. Without a progressive House and Senate the, Presidential race is a moot issue. That would simply mean more gridlock.<BR/><BR/>We have got to spend time getting to know the progressive candidates from our respective states this year and start working to get them in office!<BR/><BR/>We've already got two top notch people heading into the convention. Vote your conscience and let the chips fall where they may.<BR/><BR/>And for the love of all that is holy, VOTE DEMOCRAT IN NOVEMBER!hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687800442653701818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-5676881863770125172008-02-14T15:24:00.000-05:002008-02-14T15:24:00.000-05:00Chaz/Rod,I thought every one was savvy enough to k...Chaz/Rod,<BR/><BR/>I thought every one was savvy enough to know that both candidates will pretty much be choosing from the same pool of cabinet candidates.<BR/><BR/>The big difference will be in leadership. Hillary has made some pretty silly mistakes in judgment over her career and makes no apologies for them. <BR/><BR/>And frankly, its not like Obama hasn't spent time in Washington. I would also argue that he has more foreign policy experience than she, simply because he has lived abroad.<BR/><BR/>It wasn't until I lived in Asia that I understood what motivated them on a daily basis.<BR/><BR/>If you've ever seen the documentary "The Fog of War" You will recall the scene where McNamara is describing a post Vietnam meeting with his former North Vietnamese counterpart and he discovers that the Vietnamese were never interested in Communism as much as they were in self determination.<BR/><BR/>He also goes on to say that had Kennedy lived the Vietnam situation never would have progressed into a full blown war. And Kennedy was a relative greenhorn in politics.<BR/><BR/>It was the seasoned LBJ that expanded that war despite the advice of McNamara and others. Hell, he had nearly 30 years under his belt in Washington. <BR/><BR/>I'm just fine with Obama. And so what if people vote for him because he identifies as African American. Hillary supporters here have often mentioned how proud they are to see a WOMAN as a serious candidate.dwithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01589386814983335159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-12212865206873918492008-02-14T14:12:00.000-05:002008-02-14T14:12:00.000-05:00If nothing else it is great to see so many people ...If nothing else it is great to see so many people excited about this year's elections; however, I feel the need to address the African American gentleman who has decided to decry that "most" Blacks are voting for Obama because of the color of his skin.<BR/><BR/>Unlike some people, it made more sense to do some educational comparison of the two candidates that we have available. As each of you are noting the points for one or the other, no one seems to think that name recognition plays a part for one of them.<BR/><BR/>After spending time reading both of their platforms, I switched from supporting Hillary and moved to the Obama side. I had and still have a great respect for our past president, Clinton; however, I do not have that same admiration for his wife.<BR/><BR/>She continues to point out her level of experience. She initially spouted that she had 35 years of experience but after enough people asked how she was getting to that number, she has since changed that number to 15.<BR/><BR/>Although we are continuously mislead, lied to, manipulated by and connived by politicians; this was an important show of integrity for me. <BR/><BR/>Someone made note earlier that Obama speaks of change. The change he refers to is "we the people" holding ourselves and our government accountable for what happens to our part of the world. We have been followers for centuries. We have succumbed to the idea that our leaders (who we placed in the position) know what is best for us.<BR/><BR/>Well history continuously shows us that they don't. They continue to display acts of greed, lack of humility and little to no integrity. Obama is giving us the chance to say "Enough!"<BR/><BR/>We want to believe that if Hillary is placed in the White House, we will benefit like we did when Bill was there. How do we know? Bill Clinton had and still has the same time of charisma and personality that Obama displays. Hillary on the other hand does not show that.<BR/><BR/>During Bill's tenure, our country had to deal with deadlocked congress, proposed health plans that never came into fruition (Hillary's idea) and shortly after 9/11 we found out that Bill's administration knew before it happened that we had been threatened.<BR/><BR/>Hillary wants us to believe that she will step up and all the old guard will - what disappear? They aren't going anywhere because we will probably not change any of them. Yet at the same time, the bulk of the old guard would prefer her since she is a part of the status quo.<BR/><BR/>While everyone is busy mudslinging amongst the candidates and now the campaigners, we are losing focus of what we all as Americans say we want. Make up your minds, do you just want a Democrat in the White House for Democrat's sake, or do you want someone in there that will consider all of us as opposed to a select few?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-5123401162278080222008-02-14T07:35:00.000-05:002008-02-14T07:35:00.000-05:00In response to previous posts by Mali ...I too hav...In response to previous posts by Mali ...<BR/><BR/>I too have experienced the bashing by Obama's people for being a Clinton supporter. It is in very bad taste!<BR/><BR/>Obama has always been the "first" to sling mud at Hillary. Anything the Clinton's have said negative of Obama has always been in retaliation for the mud slinging he himself started.<BR/><BR/>His wife Michele was the first of anyone to go to South Carolina to begin campaigns. She began at a rally saying (in reference to Hillary) - "If you can't control your own house, how are you going to control the White House?" - This was a direct attack on the Monica Lewinski issue of the mid-1990's.<BR/><BR/>I thought it was a pretty pathetic thing to say. First of all, if anything, it would appear to me that after that incident Hillary did a pretty damn good job cleaning up her house. The Clinton's are a shining example of a perfect American family today. And President Clinton is Hillary's strongest support and biggest defender. I think that proves she cleaned house, and made her family stronger in spite of the incident.<BR/><BR/>It was that speech that totally turned me off Obama ... And it was shortly after that that I began experiencing the same kind of bashing by Obama's people that has mentioned.<BR/><BR/>I pray for the sake of all Americans, that Hillary Clinton wins the democratic nomination. If she does not, we are guaranteed four more years of BS in Washington, whether Obama or McCane wins the General Election.<BR/><BR/>However, of those two choices, McCane would be the better of the two evils in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-39757874047360945362008-02-14T07:14:00.000-05:002008-02-14T07:14:00.000-05:00In response to Shell from Michigan:Shell, I suppor...In response to Shell from Michigan:<BR/><BR/>Shell, I support Hillary for exactly the same reason you do not.<BR/><BR/>The fact that Hillary chose to leave her name on the ballet tells me she is fighting for ME to have MY voice heard. <BR/><BR/>Regardless of the reasons the DNC chose to not count the Michigan and Florida delegates is BS from a citizens point of view. Why shouldn't my vote count if I live in Florida or Michigan? I am an American, and I don't care about the political BS that caused these two states to NOT BE HEARD.<BR/><BR/>Hillary is clearly against that decision, and she was against it before she had any idea if she would do better or worse then Obama in those states.<BR/><BR/>That's a clear sign that Hillary, and NOT Obama, is the candidate who truly goes against the status-quo. Obama supported that decision and didn't care if our voices were heard or not. Hillary went against that decision and DOES CARE if we are heard or not.<BR/><BR/>Shell, you really need to learn to read between the lines on some of the nonsense going on in these campaigns.<BR/><BR/>CNN unfairly supports Obama over Clinton - Why? Because CNN is influenced by Washington, and the STATUS-QUO that Obama claims he is so much against, but it seems to me that all those STATUS-QUO old political figures are supporting Obama and NOT supporting Clinton.<BR/><BR/>That clearly tells me which candidate the status-quo fears, and which one they don't fear. They don't fear Obama because they know they can control him. They do fear Clinton because they know they can't control her, and she will go about attempting to bring about the changes the People desire!<BR/><BR/>So if you want change, the only change we are going to ever see will only occur if Hillary Clinton becomes President.<BR/><BR/>And, once again, opposite of what you say, if Hillary wins the nomination I will vote for Hillary in the General Election. If Obama gets the Demoncratic Nomination then I will vote for John McCane.<BR/><BR/>I am a black professional man. Unfortunately, as much as I hate to say this, from people I know and who I spoke to, Obama is getting the larger percentage of black voters simply because he is black, and not due to anything he is campaigning for. The average black who is voting for Obama has absolutely no idea, nor do they care where he stands on any issues. What they are voting for a to have the first black President, regardless if the man is qualified or not.<BR/><BR/>I know that sounds awlful, but Im afraid it's true in a big percentage of the black votes Obama is getting. Certainly not with all, but definitely with a large portion.<BR/><BR/>As an American that frightens me, and I can say that because I am black, and am simply pointing out a fact.Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09333932470389062980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-84064869340704167262008-02-14T06:53:00.000-05:002008-02-14T06:53:00.000-05:00In reply to Tina -It is refreshing to see others w...In reply to Tina -<BR/><BR/>It is refreshing to see others who can see past the rhetoric of Obama's campaign!<BR/><BR/>No one gave a hoot about Obama until Oprah Winfrey publicly announced her support for him. I'm convinced a big percentage of people who have voted for him so far were really only voting for Oprah, or supporting her candidate without paying much attention to the mans ability to actually be President.<BR/><BR/>I, as an American, would be very insecure if Sen Obama made it to the White House. I fear he'd make our nation's problems worse then they already are due to his inexperience.<BR/><BR/>Hillary has a track record to bringing about change, and for fighting the status-quo in Washington. In 1992, when Bill Clinton was elected, as I recall, Bill Clinton was the very first President in my lifetime who actually attempted to come through on his campaign promises to the people of this country.<BR/><BR/>The Clintons have a history of being true to the public, and I am convinced Hillary will come through for us if she makes it to the White House.<BR/><BR/>I don't see Hillary giving her podium up to her celebrity supporters, but I do see Obama doing it regularly. That does not sit well with me. If he's the one running for office, and it's his rally/campaign, why is he standing aside to let Oprah speak for him, or Ted Kenndy or Caroline Kennedy or Maria Shriver, while he stands in THEIR shadow at HIS rally?<BR/><BR/>When I see that I see of glimpse of our future should he become President. We don't need a "yes" man who will do the bidding of Ted Kennedy or other senior Senators in Washington. We need a Leader who will stand on their own two feet and take responsibility!<BR/><BR/>Of the three potential Presidents we now see John McCane, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama - There are only two who have the backbone to Lead - that being John and Hillary. Barack does not.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346388958775009436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-18947358333562314302008-02-14T06:41:00.000-05:002008-02-14T06:41:00.000-05:00I do not believe Barack Obama can win a general el...I do not believe Barack Obama can win a general election against John McCane.<BR/><BR/>I am a registered republican, but support Hillary Clinton in this election because I firmly believe she has the experience, ability and determination to bring about the change our country so desperately needs at this time.<BR/><BR/>If Hillary becomes the Democratic Presidential Nominee, I will vote for her in the General Election. If Barack becomes the Demontratic Presidential Nominee, I will then vote for John McCane.<BR/><BR/>I believe what our country needs first and foremost is a leader with experience, not a nice man with ideas. Barack Obama is a nice man filled will great ideas for our future, but in his campaign I see/hear a great speaker, but one who seems to be more like a follower when it comes to having the likes of Ted Kennedy and Oprah Winfrey standing at HIS podium giving speeches.<BR/><BR/>He has become popular, but is he popular because of anything he has done, or is he popular because Oprah Winfrey and Ted Kennedy support him?<BR/><BR/>I'm convinced if Obama ever made it to the White House, what we'd really end up with is a Kennedy puppet, who will do exactly as the Old Boys (Democratic) Club dictates.<BR/><BR/>Hillary, on the other hand, would tell the Old Boys where they can stuff it!<BR/><BR/>A nice ticket would be Hillary with Obama as her running mate. That I could deal with. But Obama for President would be a BIG BIG mistake for our country!Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346388958775009436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18747118.post-75378149252584884172008-02-14T01:58:00.000-05:002008-02-14T01:58:00.000-05:00I find it disturbing that Sen. Obama continues to ...I find it disturbing that Sen. Obama continues to talk about "change".....However, never has he stated anything that describes what that change will be. In addition, his unrealistic approach in stating that if elected he will begin immediate troop removal is unrealistic. I would say that if he had more experience he would realize how unrealistic that is. Not to mention he is making promises that he cannot keep....which makes him no different than every other politician who makes promises and does not follow through.<BR/><BR/>I will say this. If Sen. Obama becomes the democratic nominee. I will vote for John McCain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com