Democratic Convention Watch: Open Thread

Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Open Thread

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What is McCain's latest "senior moment", what does Obama need to do to win in November or whatever else is on your mind.

And please be excellent to one another. We do not accept name calling or any attacks on our commenters. Any objectionable comments will be deleted. Try to be civil.

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Vicki in Seattle said...: indeed, game on!; September 04, 2008 12:04 AM
suzihussein22 said...: I'm not a hockey mom and I only oversee about 8 people and my budget's only $4 mil., but I've got to get a few hours' sleep.

'night guys; September 04, 2008 12:04 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Aunt Jean -

Actually when the first two states passed I thought UH OH something's up! Then I remembered that Arizona was McCain's state LOL :); September 04, 2008 12:07 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: night suzi!; September 04, 2008 12:07 AM
Independent Voter said...: LOL - g'night soft!; September 04, 2008 12:09 AM
apissedant said...: Jon Stewart was the best. YOU SHOULD ALL CATCH HIS SHOW.

TRUTH UNCENSORED.; September 04, 2008 12:12 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: you know, as I sit here at the reasonable hour of 9 pm (or so), it's hard to remember that it's after midnight for some of you.; September 04, 2008 12:13 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: so are you watching the Daily Show that broadcasts tonight in the US?; September 04, 2008 12:17 AM
Independent Voter said...: I've got it set to record on DVR as always so I'll be watching it tomorrow.; September 04, 2008 12:25 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: McCain was NOT wearing a flag pin tonight.

Palin was wearing her Alaska pin.; September 04, 2008 12:29 AM
Independent Voter said...: So I wonder if Bristol's boyfriend has his own hotel room.; September 04, 2008 12:32 AM
Aunt Jean said...: night suzi!!!AJ; September 04, 2008 12:48 AM
apissedant said...: I watched today's broadcast. He TORE INTO all of the Palin advocates HARD. Can't wait 'til tomorrow night.

Anyways, gotta wake up in 5 hours... peace!; September 04, 2008 12:52 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Keith Olbermann just called Palin out for telling when Track is getting deployed to Iraq. He says that in some cases it is ILLEGAL to say it!
He also said that Sept 11th is the ceremony day so Palin is being disingenuous!; September 04, 2008 12:54 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Hey everyone

you talked about Hillary going after Palin even she has to be careful but I do hope she chews her another AO but in a democrat way.

But there's no doubt that Hillary will be able to do that. Palin thinks she's tough she hasn't seen nothing yet. Just wait until Hillary gets to her. I can't wait. Go Hillary show this barracuda why she's not right for the office of VP. The main reason: no experience, has to ask what does a VP do [how funny], doesn't give a rats ass about the american people [only Alaska].

But most of all not even close to the experience, and caring of America like Hillary and Obama. AJ; September 04, 2008 1:04 AM
Aunt Jean said...: goodnight AP. AJ; September 04, 2008 1:05 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: I think the Obama campaign will be fairly subdued till Friday. maybe around 11 am Eastern.

then, game on!; September 04, 2008 1:10 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Vicki

I think you are right. I wish it was friday can't wait.AJ; September 04, 2008 1:13 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Well guys and gals

I'm hitting the sack. When I punch my pillow I do believe that I will think of Palin when I do that. I hate the smug look she had on her face.AWWWWWWWW!!!!

Goodnight! AJ; September 04, 2008 1:17 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here we go .. the LIES and the FACTS

AP: Attacks, Praise Stretch Truth At GOP Convention

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/ap-attacks-praise-stretch_n_123771.html

.; September 04, 2008 1:27 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Breaking News !!!

Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/03/uselections2008.joebiden

.; September 04, 2008 1:34 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: HAHAHAHA!
This is funny!
Ya'll gotta here this!
Adult content...

http://www.236.com/blog/w/lee_camp/mccains_voice_mail_to_palin_le_8644.php

.; September 04, 2008 1:54 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: I don't know why you bloggers worry so much about clearing up points after the fact.

You throw it out there and move on. Like who cares about Noonan's rebuttle. The real story was she said the campaign is over - toast.

The issue of Bristols pregnancy is over. The real story was that it was uncovered and forced the McCain Campaign to react.

The National Enquirer story about a possible afair is out there. Who cares if they actually find anything.

The story of her alleged interference with the State Safety Commissioners role and firing his is out there. Who cares if in November she is found not guilty. The story is out there.

Keep the bullshit going. With enough of it out there, some of it is bound to stick. And if enough sticks, her credibility is shot long before they can restore it.; September 04, 2008 1:57 AM
tmess2 said...: Tonight Governor Palin claimed that there was lots of oil on the North Shore. The Alaska Office of Management and Budget in their last estimate projects that oil production will continue to decline.

Doesn't she read her own budget reports?; September 04, 2008 2:05 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Shorter RNC Day Three: "Death To Community Organizers!"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/shorter-rnc-day-three-dea_n_123798.html

Be sure to especially read the last paragraph and spread the above link to everyone you know!; September 04, 2008 2:10 AM
Independent Voter said...: Hey ya'll. I hope you will all do this.

Tonight the GOP attacked, disrespected, and insulted not only Senator Obama, but community organizers EVERYWHERE. Although I am anti-religion (this is nothing nobody already knew), however I do know that their community organizations provide much needed good to people who are not looking for handouts but a help up when it comes to possible foreclosures, job loss, healthcare, etc.

HuffPo has an article which can be found HERE discussing a Community Service forum that Obama and McCain will be attending on September 11th. There is a link (at the very end of the article) that provides the e-mail addresses of those who work for the organization that will be moderating this forum.

My suggestion would to literally bombard them with e-mails demanding (or simply requesting) that they call McCain out on the spectacle of the entire RNC mocking community organizers. I have already sent an e-mail to them. If you would like I can post what I e-mailed them if you would like to get a general idea as to what to put in your e-mail. (After all, I did some community organization in Phoenix about 10 years ago.); September 04, 2008 2:37 AM
Independent Voter said...: LOL Leah - I must have been writing my entry as you were posting yours. :); September 04, 2008 2:38 AM
Independent Voter said...: Leah - that was hilarious. I can totally see him doing that too. (Yes, I know it was a joke, but it was too funny.); September 04, 2008 2:43 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Here is a good example:

I saw that picture of Palin in a black leather mini-skirt and stilleto heals. A real tart.

I circulated it to a couple of my friends with a caption. I didn't learn that it was a fake until today, but that doesn't matter. The impression is already in my mind and I can't erase it.

The Repulsive Party does this all the time. For example once Michell Obama said "that was the first time I was proud of my country", they got the story out that she was unpatriotic. It stuck for one hell of a long time. They just let it sit out there and let it go viral.

How many poeple still believe that Barak Obama is a Musilum?

The story that Sarah Palin was a member of the Independance Party, it went round the country in a hurry. Lots of people will stick with that story no matter what else is said. Who cares if it can only be proven that her husband was a member.

Most people never hear the rebuttle to a story, and a rebutttle always has way less impact than the original story.; September 04, 2008 2:43 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Palin's comment about Community Orginizers was a slam agains Barak Obama's community work (experience) when he acted as an organizer with the unemployed in Illinois when he was younger.; September 04, 2008 2:47 AM
Independent Voter said...: Bob, it wasn't just a slam against Obama, it was a slam against ALL community organizers. It was their THEME of the night. Romney did it, Guilliani did it, Mike Huckabee did it.

We were watching it in my political science class this evening and then I rushed home to watch the rest of it.

Nearly everyone in the class was really pissed. I hope that everyone e-mails the forum moderation team in the huffpo article.; September 04, 2008 3:01 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Rolin Martin said on CNN just watch tomorrow that Obama will be coming out strong about how the GOP bashed the community organizers/small town values....

It's here in the first part of the video:

www.youtube.com/cmdrgmh; September 04, 2008 3:01 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Community organizers
MLK
Malcom X
John Brown
Chavez
NAACP
Urban League
Elizabeth Caton
The Red Cross
The Salvation Army
Candy Stripers
Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts
Girl Scouts
4-H
Community Food Banks
the list goes on and on!

(Taken from the web).; September 04, 2008 3:15 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here we goooo already!!!
------------

Campaign manager David Plouffe just sent out this email...

Dear Friend --

I wasn't planning on sending you something tonight. But if you saw what I saw from the Republican convention, you know that it demands a response.

I saw John McCain's attack squad of negative, cynical politicians. They lied about Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and they attacked you for being a part of this campaign.

But worst of all -- and this deserves to be noted -- they insulted the very idea that ordinary people have a role to play in our political process.

You know that despite what John McCain and his attack squad say, everyday people have the power to build something extraordinary when we come together. Will you make a donation right now to remind them?

Both Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin specifically mocked Barack's experience as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed.

Let's clarify something for them right now.

Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.

And it's no surprise that, after eight years of George Bush, millions of people have found that by coming together in their local communities they can change the course of history. That promise is what our campaign has been about from the beginning.

Throughout our history, ordinary people have made good on America's promise by organizing for change from the bottom up. Community organizing is the foundation of the civil rights movement, the women's suffrage movement, labor rights, and the 40-hour workweek. And it's happening today in church basements and community centers and living rooms across America.

Meanwhile, we still haven't gotten a single idea during the entire Republican convention about the economy and how to lift a middle class so harmed by the Bush-McCain policies.

It's now clear that John McCain's campaign has decided that desperate lies and personal attacks -- on Barack Obama and on you -- are the only way they can earn a third term for the Bush policies that McCain has supported more than 90 percent of the time.

But you can send a crystal clear message.

Enough is enough. Make your voice heard loud and clear by making a donation right now:

https://donate.barackobama.com/fightback

Thank you for joining more than 2 million ordinary Americans who refuse to be silenced.

David

David Plouffe

Campaign Manager

Obama for America; September 04, 2008 3:18 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: WOW!!!
Read this!

http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341

.; September 04, 2008 3:36 AM
Karen Anne said...: It is useful that the campaign watched the RNC so they can respond usefully, but I just saved several hours of my life this week not watching any of it. Sounds like my blood pressure is lower than you guys' as well :-); September 04, 2008 3:47 AM
Independent Voter said...: KA - you got that right! This woman is "evil and must be destroyed". (Olympia Dukakis - Steel Magnolias; September 04, 2008 3:51 AM
suzihussein22 said...: karen anne-Yea, but I needed to get a vibe but that was a mistake!

Palin=gal

News Flash Gal-

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

Fact check, gal. The media is actually coming out pretty fast about this stuff. Kudos to them for once!

Even Cheney ought to be upset, because she's a better shot than him! ;); September 04, 2008 7:18 AM
suzihussein22 said...: leah-Even churches should be upset, because they help with a lot of community programs.

SHAME ON YOU PALIN; September 04, 2008 7:21 AM
Karen Anne said...: suzi,

Not Palin's church though, which seems to be the vote Republican or burn in hell type.

Hard to imagine anything more contrary to Christianity than Republican practices.; September 04, 2008 7:58 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: I'm with KA, I can't bring myself to watch.

but a big THANK YOU to the Republicans for helping US mobilize OUR base!!; September 04, 2008 9:30 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: a friend of mine wants to know:

if the candidate for either party dies during the campaign, who winds up being on the ticket?

I figure someone here would know the answer.; September 04, 2008 10:16 AM
Independent Voter said...: Vicki - this exact question (I asked a couple weeks ago) caused an uproar on here.

I think the consensus was that it would default over to the VP or the party would nominate a new candidate. It would be up to the party because there are truly no federal guidelines mainly because the parties are private organizations.

Now it also depends on if it before or after Congress confirms that electoral votes (after the Nov. election).

My personal opinion would be that parties would nominate the VP candidates, since the American public were already getting to know the VP candidates. (Again this is before the Nov. election and before Congress confirms the electoral college votes).; September 04, 2008 11:07 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: sorry if this has already been posted:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-wanted-to-ban-books-from.html

mobilize the librarians!; September 04, 2008 11:08 AM
Independent Voter said...: Ok, time to get ready for school. See ya all later this afternoon.; September 04, 2008 11:11 AM
Karen Anne said...: Vicki,

After the election, the electoral college can do anything it wants, but my expectation is that they would vote the VP in.

Where things get murky is if it's during the campaign, are ballots in various states finalized, what do state laws say, etc.; September 04, 2008 11:37 AM
Beryl said...: The book banning is huge, IMO. It includes these books:

Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
My House by Nikki Giovanni
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff

The list is here:
http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/#comment-119807; September 04, 2008 12:11 PM
Karen Anne said...: Hi, Beryl,

Further down it says the list is bogus. Some weren't even published when she was mayor.

But the idea is there. It scares hell out of me how close we get to a goverment run by complete nutjobs. Eight years is enough.

From the NYTimes Aug. 3rd, "Shortly after becoming mayor, former city officials and Wasilla residents said, Ms. Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books, though she never followed through and it was unclear which books or passages were in question.

Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every City Council meeting in Ms. Palin’s first year in office, said Ms. Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at one meeting. “They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her,” Ms. Kilkenny said.

The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to “resist all efforts at censorship,” Ms. Kilkenny recalled. Ms. Palin fired Ms. Emmons shortly after taking office but changed course after residents made a strong show of support. Ms. Emmons, who left her job and Wasilla a couple of years later, declined to comment for this article."; September 04, 2008 1:17 PM
Dilbuck said...: I read this earlier today from a blogpost. Just to throw a little fun into the fire with some right wing christians...

Jesus was a community organizer while Pontius Pilot was a governor...; September 04, 2008 1:32 PM
jean said...: Just posting this article.
The republicans say less goverment but are planning to give the largest restricitons with this election.
Just an opinion from CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/03/rosen.palin/index.html?iref=mpstoryview; September 04, 2008 1:51 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Beryl-

I went to the site you listed.

The list of books does NOT have a source and others in the comments asked the poster of the comment for a source and there isn't one there that I can see.

People there don't believe the list is true - so in this case we shouldn't state that that was a true list since there is no proof of that.

Just my opinion.; September 04, 2008 2:01 PM
Beryl said...: Leah/Karen/anyone else -
You are right. That list doesn't appear to be correct.

If you find a valid list, please post it.; September 04, 2008 2:13 PM
jean said...: beryl,
Here is a list of banned books that can be looked up alphabetically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_books#A
jean
I do believe they are all there,I will say that I did not check one by one.
Except for the dictionarys on your list, my kids have read almost all of them in Honors English. Uh, no, not the Living Bible.
jean; September 04, 2008 2:29 PM
Beryl said...: Enough of Palin. McBush is running for president!

Repigs want us focusing on Palin instead of their terrible candidate. You see that they aren't hitting Biden.; September 04, 2008 2:30 PM
Beryl said...: jean,

Interesting list Are those the books Palin wanted banned at her city's library?; September 04, 2008 2:32 PM
jean said...: beryl,
Sarah Palin is not an original person.
She gave a list that has already been challenged and she took from that list.
Did she read them, I do not think so.
I do not believe that this can be verified.
The librarian does not want to make a comment.
Palin went with the extremist, she is one, and did it.
No original thought, just wanted HER rules set and it back fired.
I think She went with a list that was already done.
Not this entire list but probally the current list of that year.
jean; September 04, 2008 2:44 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here's a copy and paste from a comment on CNN...

* Palin's husband, Todd Palin, had 7 year membership to an Anti-American hate group, AIP, a group that is so angry with the United States they want to seceed from the USA!
Check New York Times.

* Palin said she's going to clean up Washington - YET, two days ago her lawyer began stalling the process and TODAY her Gov. Aide cancelled his deposition …. SHE IS CORRUPTING the investigation process. Again, if Hillary or Obama did that - the press would be on a feeding frenzie.

* Palin refuses to become available for deposition in her corruption investigation. Check Alaska Daily News

* Palin's top aide, YESTERDAY, cancelled his deposition and is no longer available. Check Alaska Daily News

* Gov. Palin cut funding for special needs children. Palin LIED in speech about being an advocate to special needs kids.

* Palin's ENTIRE gas pipe-line talk was a LIE according to Anchorage Daily News: Palin lied about the cost AND lied about the status. Check Alaska Daily News

* Palin cut funding for pregnant teens - she has a pregnant teen.

* Palin left Wasilla with a DEFICIT.

* Palin fired people for political reasons when she was mayor:
Check Alaska Daily News

*2008 Palin FIRED Legislative Liaison John Bitney for dating ex-wife of Todd Palin's good friend.

* Palin is for banning books in libraries. Check Alaska Daily News

* Palin supports OUTLAWING Roe-v-Wade … OUTLAWING.

* Palin gave a speech saying the Iraq War was God's plan:
youtube speech.

* *7/08 Palin on tv said she has NO IDEA what job description of VP.
Check youtube

-------

Obama/Biden vs. Geezer/Gidget

O and Joe '08; September 04, 2008 2:44 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: jean-

As far as I can tell that list of banned books on Wikipedia has NOTHING to do with Palin.

All the real news articles never had a list of books that she wanted banned. She only asked about 'how to go about banning books'.

There is no list - otherwise the bloggers like DailyKos etc. would have already found it!; September 04, 2008 2:48 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 04, 2008 3:00 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Steelworkers President To Palin: ‘Stop Using Your Husband’s Membership In The USW As A Prop’»

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/palin-usw/

Love it!; September 04, 2008 3:13 PM
jean said...: beryl,
I have been looking.
The list you have is general, like I thought, but there is no evidence she gave a list.
The librarian does not want to speak.
Though she asked to how to do it, there is nothing to connect her, even why the librarian was fired.
jean; September 04, 2008 3:14 PM
Beryl said...: Thanks jean.
You don't need to look anymore because I'm sick of focusing on her. It is about McBush/McLame/McSame/McCain.; September 04, 2008 3:15 PM
jean said...: The nice and politeness is killing me.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/04/Biden.Palin/index.html
I know there is a plan.
It is still killing me.
jean; September 04, 2008 4:05 PM
Beryl said...: I think the point is to keep them from calling Biden a bully but get back to the ISSUES.

McCain=Bush is the point, not Palin. She is a Republican distraction.; September 04, 2008 4:16 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I watched Biden on three morning shows and Obama this afternoon at an outside press conference.

They BOTH did great. They are not attacking - the are pointing out facts and taking the high road. The more that Obama and Biden are nice the worse Palin looks.

I would starting Monday we will see the real fight begin.

Btw, Palin was not on Sunday shows last weekend and she is not going to be on any this coming up weekend. The longer that McCain keeps her away from the press and the hard questions the worse it will be for her because Obama and Biden are going to keep pushing the fact that she hasn't said anything at all on the issues.; September 04, 2008 4:24 PM
jean said...: Yes leah, I agree and I know.
I still like red meat, actually rear;)
jean; September 04, 2008 4:29 PM
Beryl said...: Apis reference this show. Here is the clip that you must spread around:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

It is the best ever.; September 04, 2008 4:29 PM
jean said...: rare
jean; September 04, 2008 4:33 PM
tmess2 said...: George Orwell would love the Republican themes for this convention -- "peace" and "prosperity."

Of course, if you are from a state that gets most of its income from the petroleum business or own multiple houses, I guess it's still a time of prosperity.

I am not sure how you get peace, but am sure the Rovian spinmeisters will have an explanation for it.; September 04, 2008 4:46 PM
Beryl said...: "Peace" and "Prosperity", my behind. They are responsible for the antithesis of both terms.

They have developed into the party of lies and contradictions. Lincoln would be ashamed.; September 04, 2008 4:48 PM
Karen Anne said...: Beryl,

That's wonderful amazing clip.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086; September 04, 2008 4:52 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Palin speech pulls in $8 million — for Obama

Posted: 05:19 PM ET

From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

(CNN) – Barack Obama's campaign says it has raised more than $8 million from over 130,000 donors following Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin's speech Wednesday night.

The campaign also says it is on track to raise $10 million before John McCain takes the podium at the Republican National Convention tonight.; September 04, 2008 5:24 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: I just sent a letter to the editor of The Baltimore Sun that reads as follows:

To the editor,

On Wednesday night, Sarah Palin delivered an address to the Republican National Convention, denigrating 'community organizers'.

Some of the people she effectively denigrated and made fun of included:

- Clara Barton, the founder of the American Red Cross

- Robert S. S. Baden-Powell, Ernest Thompson Seton, Daniel Carter Beard, William D. Boyce, James E. West, the founders of the Boy Scouts movement and the Boy Scouts of America

- William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army

- George Williams, the founder of the YMCA

- Emma Robarts and Mrs. Arthur Kinnaird, co-founders of the YWCA

- A. B. Graham, generally recognized as the founder of the 4-H clubs in America

And I think that most Christians would consider Jesus of Nazareth, St. Peter and St. Paul to be 'community organizers' of the early Christian community, wouldn't they? Didn't Moses and Aaron organize the community of Israelites in order to flee the Pharaoh in Egypt?

Ms. Palin should be careful when she denigrates 'community organizers'. She might be denigrating some of the people she holds in high esteem.

/signed/

Now to see if it gets printed.

Mike; September 04, 2008 5:45 PM
Doc Pickles said...: The big news tonight! Giants vs Redskins! I am looking forward to a long introduction ceremony, lots of stoppages in play, a long break with the video replay judge, lots and lots of commercial breaks, and overtime. Hopefully both clubs use all of their timeouts. I want this game to last until midnight.; September 04, 2008 5:47 PM
Kujo said...: Cindy McCain's $300,000 outfit, this should play to the middle class.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/04/cindy_mccains_300000_outfit.html; September 04, 2008 5:52 PM
Doc Pickles said...: What a day to remind us of the Bush administration: four more years in jail for the man who helped the Democrats win back Congress and the Senate: Mr. Jack "Disgraced Lobbyist" Abramoff!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/04/abramoff.sentenced/index.html?iref=topnews; September 04, 2008 5:55 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: NEW

Alaska police union files complaint against Palin

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/04/1347737.aspx

.; September 04, 2008 5:59 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Palin Attended 5 Colleges In 6 Years

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/palin-attended-5-colleges_n_124036.html

.; September 04, 2008 6:04 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: From TMP...

Hillary Reportedly Campaigning For Obama Monday

Hillary To Campaign For Obama In Florida
By Greg Sargent - September 4, 2008, 1:50PM

A bunch of you have written to ask where Hillary is in the wake of Sarah Palin's speech, and here's an answer.

Hillary is set to campaign in Florida for Obama on Monday, a source familiar with her schedule tells me.

Though the details of the trip have yet to be worked out, and the trip's message hasn't been settled on yet, her planned campaigning suggests that the Obama team may start reaching out to Hillary more aggressively in the days ahead to counter whatever effects Palin has.

More when we learn it.

--------------------------; September 04, 2008 6:12 PM
Doug said...: Leah, I remember commenting about the phone message tape that there was a real problem for Palin and her office in that they had somehow accessed Wooten's personnel records in appropriately. It seems his union has appropriately taken that on! Thanks for the link.; September 04, 2008 6:14 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Palin Steals Hockey Mom Joke from John Hagee?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-rodda/palin-steals-hockey-mom-j_b_123784.html

.

Plagiarist !
They made a really big point on TV to say that the line Palin used 'she added to the speech' - I beat you the speech writer rewrote the Hagee line and put it in there!

Every time the McCain people say something turn it around to find the truth!!!; September 04, 2008 6:26 PM
Beryl said...: Especially for Leah
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/sebelius-accuses-palin-of_n_123883.html

We need more of our Dem Women to do the smack down on Palin and let Obama/Biden concentrate on the issues.; September 04, 2008 6:27 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Beryl-

Yep. It is happening already Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Sebelius, and Boxer have been out so far that I have seen.

Hillary is hitting the trail Monday.

Other female senators that I think will be out soon: Mikulski, Feinstein, Landrieu, Cantwell, Stabenow, Klobuchar, McCaskill.

And that's not even getting into all the congresswomen yet.

We got lots of women that can attack!; September 04, 2008 6:35 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Seems as if the American people aren't getting the subliminal rascist connection between the word 'elitist' and Obama, so now they are being a bit more brazen with their word choice:

From The Hill
[Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland calls Obama ‘uppity'

Asked to clarify that he used the word “uppity,” Westmoreland said, “Uppity, yeah.”

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/westmoreland-calls-obama-uppity-2008-09-04.html

Mike; September 04, 2008 6:36 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: From the Dallas Morning News

Why do Republicans mock "community organizer" role?

9:04 AM Thu, Sep 04, 2008 |
Michael Landauer

I really don't understand the mocking of Obama for being a community organizer as a young man.

Giuliani last night: "On the other hand, you have a resume from a gifted man with an Ivy League education. He worked as a community organizer. What? He worked -- I said -- I said, OK, OK, maybe this is the first problem on the resume."

Palin last night: I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer," except that you have actual responsibilities.

Now, the truth is that, starting at age 23, Obama ran a faith-based charity called the Developing Communities Project.

It was made up of eight Catholic parishes when he got there and had one staff member. He was its director, meaning he was in charge. He made decisions about it, including staffing, budgets, etc. And when he left in 1988 to go to law school, he had grown its budget from $70,000 to $400,000, its staff from 1 to 13 people. More important, he created a job training program for this community and a college prep tutoring program.

As mayor, she built a hockey rink/rec center using eminent domain (because apparently there just isn't enough land in Alaska).

And keep in mind the timeline here: Obama did this as a young man BEFORE going to law school, becoming a successful lawyer and a law professor.

I don't think it's right to attack someone for working in a faith-based charity out of college. I think we all have some embarrassing first-jobs in our past. I would not make fun of Palin for being a beauty queen and sports reporter out of college during these same years. Although, I do think Obama's experience shaped his political future a bit better ...
----------------------------------; September 04, 2008 6:55 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: CBS News has a new '' out today, and they included some cross-tabs.

They are stating that the polling shows a 42-42 tie among registered voters.

However, when you go into the cross-tabs, here are some of the reasons the polling is suspect:

The pollsters say the political registration breakdown is something like:
31% Republican
35% Democratic
34% Independent

If you believe most state's voter registration offices, the breakdown is more like:
30% Republican
37% Democratic
30% Independent
3% Other party/No affiliation

No information is given on the age breakdown; no information is given on gender breakdown; no information is given on ethnic identity; no information is given on religious breakdown.

If the party registration is skewed, what is there to say the other information is not also skewed?

In any event, this was a national poll, but the Electoral College is a state by state determinant. And if you go to the CBS News electoral projection, they say the following states are 'undecided':

New Hampshire
Oregon
Nevada
New Mexico
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Missouri
Indiana
Michigan
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia
Florida

They are calling Montana and North Dakota as solid McLame(brain) (new poll by United Transportation Union of North Dakota shows
Obama 43/McCain 40; latest Rasmussen poll of Montana shows it tied at 47). It also shows North Carolina solid for McLame(brain) - most pollsters call it much too close to call right now.

A lot to not trust about the CBS poll and their political map.

Mike; September 04, 2008 7:01 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Tonight in McCain's speech he is going to say "Change is Coming".

Obama should release a press release after the speech and say "Yes, change IS coming and I along with the American people are going to bring America that change!"; September 04, 2008 7:21 PM
Independent Voter said...: Speaking about community organizers, guess what John McDouchebag did. He cancels his appearance with Habitat for Humanity.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

HMMMMMMMMMMM, I wonder why?; September 04, 2008 7:30 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 04, 2008 7:43 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: John McCain Cancels Habitat For Humanity Event ... Because It Has To Do With Houses?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/john-mccain-cancels-habit_n_123947.html

Be sure to watch the video in this article about community organizers!; September 04, 2008 7:46 PM
Independent Voter said...: OOPS, I wonder why my computer didn't grab the link for the habitat for humanity story. Thanks for posting it Leah.; September 04, 2008 7:54 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Great photo of Wasilla City Hall.

Ivana TRUMP ???

---

When Palin Thought Wasilla Wasn't Cosmopolitan Enough

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/when-palin-thought-wasill_n_124068.html

.; September 04, 2008 8:03 PM
apissedant said...: I don't know if anyone has posted THIS Levi Johnston photo package. That little blonde girl shows up a lot, and they seem to be mighty close.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/levi-johnston-slideshow-m_n_123601.html; September 04, 2008 8:26 PM
Independent Voter said...: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

The teleprompters went down at the RNC!

ROFLMAO!!

Looks like McDouchebag may be ad-libing it.; September 04, 2008 8:54 PM
apissedant said...: Damn Dave,
If that could have only happened last night.; September 04, 2008 8:56 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Has anyone noticed the signs at the RNC? It's like they don't have enough oney to rent the Xcel Center AND print up signs. 1/2 the people there have homemade signs. Almost like a community organizer got involved and had a big sign making party...probably with booze, blow and hookers.; September 04, 2008 8:59 PM
Independent Voter said...: WOW. Check out Gloria Steinem's REAT Op-ed in the LA Times which can be found HERE.; September 04, 2008 9:02 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I am still in shock that the GOP showed that 9/11 Tribute to drum up votes!

McCain is disgusting.; September 04, 2008 9:05 PM
Independent Voter said...: p'd ant - actually I think it's funnier that it is happening now. Sen. Lindsay Graham is now speaking, and it looks like they are working again. DAMMIT!; September 04, 2008 9:06 PM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, it's NOT jut McDouchebag that is digusting, it's the ENTIRE Republican Party.; September 04, 2008 9:07 PM
Independent Voter said...: I'm changing the channel. I can't take it any more. How original is Ms. Lindsey Graham? He's hijacked parts of Obama's speech.; September 04, 2008 9:08 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Has anyone noticed Republishits lie through their teeth with a straight face and nobody ever calls them out on it? Frustrates me to no end! Democrats always take the high road and get beat over the head for playing by the rules. If a Dem misstates something, all the major news anchors lead with it.; September 04, 2008 9:11 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Main Entry: mav·er·ick
Pronunciation: \ˈmav-rik, ˈma-və-\
Function: noun
Date: 1867

an unbranded range animal; especially : a motherless calf; September 04, 2008 9:18 PM
Beryl said...: Please Digg if you can.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Legislative_Experience_Senator_Barack_Obama_D_IL; September 04, 2008 9:20 PM
Independent Voter said...: Thanks Beryl. Dugg it!; September 04, 2008 9:35 PM
Independent Voter said...: Aunt Judy - I hear ya. Every blog that I've visited today I've posted comments that read, "the dems need to grow a spine and start calling a spade a spade. Palin is nothing more than a hypocrite and a LIAR! Plain and simple, nothing more, nothing LESS!"; September 04, 2008 9:36 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 04, 2008 9:45 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: I noticed on the bio about Cindy they covered how her and McTurd met, but left out the part about how he was married at the time and she tore that family apart. I suppose they had time constraints so they couldn't cover everything.

IV: Yes, I'm not sure if Dem's need to grow a spine or a set of iron balls. Either way, they need to start fighting like pit bulls because from here on out, the GOP will have their gloves off.; September 04, 2008 9:47 PM
suzihussein22 said...: beryl-Dugg it!; September 04, 2008 9:49 PM
jean said...: Indy,
I stated it earlier.
I am looking for rare red meat;)
jean; September 04, 2008 10:01 PM
Independent Voter said...: LOL jean!

Aunt Judy - I hear ya. Some have called him names that can't be repeated? Hmmmmm, kind of like when he called his wife a "C". (I figured I would save you all from having to read the word again from earlier in the week ;); September 04, 2008 10:05 PM
Independent Voter said...: Did you see that? They EDITED his book!

The original phrasing was "I didn't love America until I was deprived of her company."

I know I said I wasn't going to watch, but I have to. I hate this man to no end and his running mate - don't even get me started again.; September 04, 2008 10:09 PM
Independent Voter said...: p'd ant - by the way, I did watch the daily show today - my favorite line, I get it "Guantanamo Bay is a leadership academy".; September 04, 2008 10:13 PM
Independent Voter said...: I said it the other night, but does anyone else notice all the EMPTY seats in the auditorium....LOL...er I mean....arena; September 04, 2008 10:15 PM
Independent Voter said...: WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you guys just see the sign that they flashed?

"MCCAIN VOTES AGAINST VETS; September 04, 2008 10:17 PM
Independent Voter said...: EEK! That nasty smile of his..... STRANGER DANGER!; September 04, 2008 10:18 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Hey Beryl I Dugg it too!!! AJ; September 04, 2008 10:19 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Hey John McCain was a POW? I didn't know that. I was just watching this video clip at the RNC. That was news to me! He should really run on that as his main issue.... DUH?? Was there NOTHING else they could say? Like he was born before cars were invented?

Doesn't this man have anything to bring to the table?

The USA chant by the Repub's sounds militant.....like Tim McVeigh.

He really gives P.O.W.'s a bad name.

Have ya'll seen the email circulating? Written by a POW who was across the hall from McCain in that same prison....on 2 1/2 years longer? It's good. He says he wouldn't and isn't voting for McCain. I can post if anyone wants to see it.; September 04, 2008 10:19 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: I hate making type-os. It makes me want to delete my previous entry and do it again.

...."only 2 1/2 years longer.....

HEY WAIT PROTESTOR!; September 04, 2008 10:24 PM
Independent Voter said...: Aunt Judy - the only reason they keep chanting is because of protesters. I LOVE IT! I hope they interrupt McDouchebag EVERY chance they get.; September 04, 2008 10:30 PM
Dilbuck said...: At least McCain has no idea how to speak well. I fought pork barrel spending... unless it was my running mate's pork.

Time to get rid of the spend first crowd in Washington... Bush has the largest deficit ever... and you voted with him 95% of the time.

What a douche.; September 04, 2008 10:33 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Beryl: I dug it.

Ya'll should consider digging this.....

The McCain is against equal pay for woman story needs to make a comeback - I want to see Sarah Palin answer that question on a Sunday morning talk show (with Tim Russert):

http://digg.com/politics/McCain_Stop_Insulting_Women_Lilly_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act; September 04, 2008 10:37 PM
Independent Voter said...: WOW! McCain is a FRICKIN' LIAR! He says that she balanced a budget? Um, whose budget did she balance? She literally took a town of 5,000 people with ZERO debt into $23 million into the red.; September 04, 2008 10:39 PM
Independent Voter said...: Aunt Judy - dugg it!; September 04, 2008 10:42 PM
Independent Voter said...: Interesting - Where is John McCain's flag lapel pin? Oh that's right, he was a POW!; September 04, 2008 10:46 PM
Kujo said...: Can you believe this guy, he has talked more about himself then anything else.; September 04, 2008 11:02 PM
Kujo said...: I only hear about the second half of the speech, did the words middle class ever come up? In the whole Convention?; September 04, 2008 11:07 PM
Independent Voter said...: No, I couldn't finish it. I couldn't take it anymore because every time he opened his mouth it seemed as though he had another lie to tell.; September 04, 2008 11:15 PM
Beryl said...: Aunt Judy,
Tim Russert won't be interviewing Palin (sadly) but someone like Andrea Mitchell should ask her the tough questions. The double-standard -- "don't be too tough on Sarah because she is new and a woman" -- is ridiculous.

Everyone makes typos and I think it is pointless to send correction posts on this system. Most people know what was meant.; September 04, 2008 11:15 PM
Independent Voter said...: Kujo, I listened to the beginning and couldn't take it anymore. But NO not once did they EVER mention the middle-class.; September 04, 2008 11:16 PM
apissedant said...: The lies that keep pissing me off:

Obama has only been a Senator for 3 years.
Tim Kaine has only been Governor for 2 years. Governor Palin and he have served the SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.

Well here we go:
Palin assumed office December 4, 2006. (2 years)
Governor Tim Kaine assumed office JANUARY 14, 2006. (3 years)
Senator Obama assumed office January 4, 2005. (4 years)

These amounts of time are obviously not the same, and I have watched Bill Maher, and every other pundit has not only let it go repeatedly, but many have actually repeated the garbage.

Besides this, Virginia is a state of 7.5 million people, he served 4 years as the Lieutenant Governor, 2 years as the Mayor of a city of 200,000, and served on the City Council.
We all know Obama's biography. Both have a degree in Law from HARVARD (best law school in the country). Obama taught CONSTITUTIONAL LAW AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO (7th best law school in the country).

Anyone who challenges their knowledge of government is an idiot. Anyone who attempts to compare or equate their ample experience to "Hockey Mom Palin," should have their voter registration taken away. The Republicans removed enough black and Jewish voters, seems like we should get a chance.; September 04, 2008 11:21 PM
apissedant said...: By the way... conversation I overheard at 7-11 today:

"I don't know, I just really think McCain is gonna win this thing...
well... yeah well honestly I don't care either way, whichever one will give me my commission first I'll vote for."

This self absorbed douche bag college kid actually thinks the Presidential election has some sort of an effect on his commissioning. He has this crazy idea that he is so damned important, that these two guys are campaigning directly to him, for his individual vote, and they're gonna give him new responsibility, respect, and a huge pay increase just for his vote.

I <3 my fellow countrymen.; September 04, 2008 11:25 PM
tmess2 said...: Is it just my imagination or was McCain's speech this year the same themes as George W.'s speech in 2000 (except for the biography part)?; September 04, 2008 11:41 PM
apissedant said...: Republicans and their inflation... the saga continues.

Colbert questions douche bag kid, and says, "Now January, by that time she'd been in office... what two months?"

"I think 3."

"Ok, 3."

NO, 1!!!! 1 month! December-January, that is 1 month!

Don't vote for people who can't count to 3!!!; September 04, 2008 11:47 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I wonder if McCain got permission to use the song Barracuda by Heart. If not I hope Heart sues the $hit out of him!

Barracuda was Palin's nickname in high school and I hope we don't have to hear the song for the next two months!; September 04, 2008 11:48 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: IV - LOL, yeah, only Obama and Huckabee were wearing flag pins in the waining days of the primaries.

On the pin topic, anyone identify the pin that Palin and her husband have been wearing? It's not a flag pin, not even the Alaska flag. Hum.....; September 04, 2008 11:52 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: All across the Internet, I'm beginning to see people making comments on community organizers, and a lot of them are discussing Jesus of Nazareth as one of the first.

We need to spread the word, especially to the religiously oriented, that Palin dissed Jesus when she denigrated community organizers!

As soon as some of them think that someone made a dissing comment about their 'lord and savior', they'll get mightily p***ed off. And when that happens, some 'unholy hell' can erupt against the person doing the dissing.

Oh, and discussing Moses and Aaron in terms of community organizers won't hurt. Not only will it get the attention of the Jewish voters, but the evangelicals who are always talking about Israel, and those who take much of their religious philosophy out of the Old Testament (the eye for an eye people - you know who they are).

Mike; September 04, 2008 11:53 PM
tmess2 said...: I don't mind hearing Palin called a barracuda for the next four weeks. First, if she gives off the image of being tough, Senator Biden will be able to take it too her in the debate without being accused of beating up on a woman. Second, barracuda is not a particular nice nickname. If she wants to be known as a predator, more power to her -- especially as people come to realize just how much of a predator she has been.; September 04, 2008 11:55 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: DCW posted an updated presidential forecast - things are looking up for Obama!

O and Joe here we go! '08; September 04, 2008 11:59 PM
Independent Voter said...: WOW! It would be really funny, if it weren't so true!; September 04, 2008 11:59 PM
apissedant said...: OIL INFO:

Saudi's estimate "proven" reserves are inflated by 33%.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/24/business/24OIL.html?ex=1392958800&en=dc727c73cd688914&ei=5007

Oil companies currently spend 2 dollars for every dollar of oil they find.

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/2470

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article993257.ece

According to anwr.org, a group advocating oil drilling... ANWR has between 6-16 billion barrels of oil. They claim this would allow Americans 60 extra years of energy.
The US uses nearly 8 billion barrels a year, making this supply, at best, only 2 years. (21 million per day x 365) This is if you believe anwr.org, who obviously favor drilling and would be likely to report the values as higher than they actually are.

http://www.anwr.org/case.htm

Geologists working for the REPUBLICAN controlled government estimate the supply at only 10 billion barrels, which would only be 1.25 years.

REPUBLICANS CAN'T COUNT!!!!; September 05, 2008 12:01 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: A comment from one of the threads at 538.com that should make some people smile:

A small anecdotal bit of info:

A friend from 35 years ago called, all excited. He went out to get a bite to eat and decided a cold brew would be good, too. He said there was a group of five blue-collar older guys talking to the barkeep. When they left, the barkeep joined him and said those five were the most obnoxious Republican customers that she had...until the Palin speech!

They stopped by just to apologize and to say they all were voting for Obama.

They are all in the reddest of red counties in OR.

Mike; September 05, 2008 12:01 AM
Independent Voter said...: One thing I did notice tonight however is that McCain has upgraded from sounding like he was speaking to 1st graders to sounding like he was addressing 5th graders. ;); September 05, 2008 12:05 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: September 11 — Obama, McCain discuss their views on service and civic engagement at a primetime forum in New York City.

September 26 — First presidential debate at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Mississippi

October 2 — Vice presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri

October 7 — Second Presidential debate at Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee

October 15 — Third Presidential debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York

October 16 — Al Smith dinner

November 4 — Election Day

.; September 05, 2008 12:06 AM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Found it. Palin's pin is the single blue star signifying that she has a family member deployed.

Hey Sarah - your kid is not deployed yet. Take that pin off!!!!!

And, oh by the way, you have violated national security rules by stating deployment plans.; September 05, 2008 12:07 AM
tmess2 said...: Can see an ad in Kentucky featuring John McCain's comments on the misuse of power by the Republicans paid for by the DSCC.; September 05, 2008 12:10 AM
UUbuntu said...: I only saw the last third of McCain's speech (from the POW talk to the bipartisan push for movement) but -- for the first time in a long time, I actually admired him.

Don't get me wrong. Today I contributed another $25 to the Obama campaign (in response to the nauseating naysayers of nastininess from yesterday), and of course I intend to vote for Obama, but this speech DID give me some hope that -- under all that Repugnican slime -- a decent public servant still lives.

It was fitting that -- it seemed -- none of the crowd seemed to think much of the speech, but they're more interested in voting AGAINST Obama than voting for anything.

Was I wrong for seeing some compassion and bipartisanship there? I realize that, if elected, none of it will come through, since he's given up most of his principles through this nominating process.; September 05, 2008 12:19 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: OH MY GOD... hurry hurry go to www.HuffingtonPost.com

and there under the top headline there are photos... click over to the 10th photo.

It is a photo of Bristol holding Trig and Levi is kissing him!; September 05, 2008 12:20 AM
apissedant said...: emit,
Not to mention that if she actually became VP, her son wouldn't be allowed to deploy anymore anyways. They'd pull him back just like the English did the Prince.; September 05, 2008 12:20 AM
Kujo said...: McCain speech as well as the whole Convention could be summed up as McCain has passion for his country.

I think the from Obama's Camp should be:

McCain has had a passion to service this country for as long as he has been in the Senate. That includes the last 8 years when he supported Bush over 90% of the time. His passion has not given him the ability to make the right decision

(Feel free to improve on this message); September 05, 2008 12:33 AM
tmess2 said...: Am seeing an ad

20 years in the Senate

Never supported alternatives to oil

Never supported equal pay for women

Never supported fair trade

Never supported family leave

When we need change, John McCain offers more of the same.; September 05, 2008 12:41 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Mike in Maryland-

I hope that that comment from 538 is true ;); September 05, 2008 12:42 AM
Independent Voter said...: You guys want to see something that is VERY impressive?

At the end of July, Obama had raised nearly $375 million!

HERE's the link with the breakdown. $190 million came from those who donated less than $200.; September 05, 2008 12:45 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: OH MY GOD... hurry hurry go to

www.HuffingtonPost.com

and there under the top headline there are photos... click over to the 10th photo.

It is a photo of Bristol holding Trig and Levi is kissing him!

17 year old boys don't kiss other people's kids! Not tenderly like that!

I bet within a short time the truth will come out!; September 05, 2008 12:52 AM
Kujo said...: I got a question. I forgot, when we donated money (I am assuming we all did to Obama during the primary) did it ask us if we were putting that money twards the Primary or for the main election.

Here is why I ask. If I put in the max 2300 I believe I put that twards the primary. But if there is no stipulation, then he could move that money to the main election. Then donating another 2,300 would not really help.

I believe I had to stipulate that it was twards the primary. But can not remember.; September 05, 2008 12:56 AM
Independent Voter said...: Kujo, if you donated the $2300 PRIOR to the end of the convention then it went toward the primary. Although he CAN roll it over it still went toward the primary campaign. So you are able to donate another $2300 for the general.; September 05, 2008 1:18 AM
Karen Anne said...: So, when they did McSame's bio, how did they deal with the first wife now you see her now you don't adultery thing?; September 05, 2008 1:20 AM
Independent Voter said...: OOPS! I guess it's a good thing Tom Ridge wasn't McCain's running mate.

HEHEHEHEHE; September 05, 2008 1:21 AM
Independent Voter said...: KA, you have to remember, the Republicans don't care about 1st wives. It's only the second wives that really matter. Kind of like the unborn. Once they are carried to term they are on their own.; September 05, 2008 1:23 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Heart condemns McCain-Palin use of 'Barracuda'

Posted: 12:01 AM ET
Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart.

ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) — Blasting through the Republican convention hall is the 1977 hit "Barracuda" by rock band Heart.

It's a shout-out to Sarah Palin. When she played basketball in high school, the soon-to-be Republican vice presidential nominee earned the nickname "Sarah barracuda" for her fierce competitiveness.

Some of her opponents revived the "Sarah barracuda" nickname after she became mayor of her hometown, Wasilla, in 1996, defeating a three-term incumbent.

UPDATE: Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart said Thursday night that Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG have sent a cease and desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign over their use of 'Barracuda.'

"We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music. We hope our wishes will be honored," the group said in a statement that said they "condemn" the use of the song at the Republican convention.

--------------; September 05, 2008 1:34 AM
Doug said...: Barracuda... pit bull... I see what the Republicans are really up to.

Obama, the first multi-racial candidate who is able to transcend the issues of race is such a huge threat, the Republicans have gone one better.

They have found the first truly multi-species candidate!

But, I am worried about the fallout if the Republicans should lose... the dogs may riot! Can you imagine them barking all night, peeing and deficating in public? Oh, yeah, they already to that!; September 05, 2008 3:08 AM
Doug said...: If you have any doubts about the species barrier being broken, check out the reaction of this dog in an interview about Palin!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/cnn-dog-attacks-microphon_n_124033.html; September 05, 2008 3:26 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: A Republican's attempt at spelling?

http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files//2008/09/mavrick.jpg

Reminds me of the 'Moran' sign in late 2002/early 2003.

Mike; September 05, 2008 5:01 AM
Karen Anne said...: Doug, funny clip :-)

I had to put it on mute after 30 seconds of Palin before I puked, and then back on sound when the dog got the mike.

Uh, was the dog's name Karen?; September 05, 2008 5:44 AM
Beryl said...: Regarding that "Mavrick" sign, I keep saying this:

Republican wealth cannot buy intelligence or class.; September 05, 2008 9:03 AM
Richard said...: Did nobody tell the republicans that one can do the same thing with a blue screen he can do with a green?; September 05, 2008 9:07 AM
Beryl said...: Just for the Jeans:

Obama Camp Turns to Clinton to Counter Palin

http://tinyurl.com/HRC-Attacks; September 05, 2008 9:23 AM
Beryl said...: This is my nightmare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk

Honestly, I will likely cash out my assets and leave within 3 years if Obama is not elected.; September 05, 2008 9:35 AM
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UUbuntu said...: Here's a relective (as opposed to reflexive) column on the choice of Sarah Palin and the role of women in politics that I found valuable.

Governor Palin and Women's Issues

I hope others here also find value in it.; September 05, 2008 11:23 AM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Can't believe you all left the door open for me that long. LOL

;o); September 05, 2008 11:24 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: I hear the Obama campaign raised 8-10 million in the 24 hours following Palin's speech.

it is unlikely that this was the desired effect on her/their part.; September 05, 2008 11:33 AM
jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 05, 2008 11:52 AM
UUbuntu said...: What the hell...?

Looks like we the people won't be seeing much of Palin after all.

Oh, and Beryl. Regardless of the outcome of this election, leaving the country must not be an option. You're too bright, articulate and passionate. We need people like you in this country, ESPECIALLY as our government descends into fascism.; September 05, 2008 12:29 PM
Richard said...: This is my take on the current state of the race, showed visually using The Washington Post's interactive map. Basically, McCain has to win all of the states in gray with the exception of either NH or NV (but not both) in order to win. Obama can win by claiming any one of CO, OH, VA, NH+NV, or FL.

The REAL Swing States Map.; September 05, 2008 12:56 PM
Beryl said...: Thanks, Tyler. I'll consider staying but the Repigs are bent on destroying the middle class.

I have a decent nest egg and don't want it to disappear with our failing economy. I can early-early retire to another country in 3 years or transfer away since my company is international.

My older sister, a Repug, is on disability and her husband is struggling. They have almost NO retirement savings. She recently asked me to BUY HER HOUSE because it is slipping away from them. I have 2 houses (one a rental) and no need for a 3rd. She wouldn't pay the rent anyway so I'd be stuck with their debts and no way to recover.

I feel like telling her this:

"Your Republican friends are responsible for your problem. Even though you are not a fetus, they might consider assisting you."

I know this is mean but I don't understand anyone who is poor voting Republican.; September 05, 2008 1:37 PM
Karen Anne said...: Beryl,

Owning a house with a non-paying relative as a tenant is a nightmare. It's a bottomless pit into which your own retirement savings will drain.

But it sounds like you know that's not the way to help them.; September 05, 2008 1:57 PM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Wow the news on this blog is slow.

First we have the E-bay sale of the Governors jet was a fabrication.

Next we have palins lawyers (the bunch sent up to Alaska last week) are trying to stall the Troopergate investigation.

And now we have Todd Palin's business partner trying to have his divorce records sealed.; September 05, 2008 2:30 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: beryl, if you can't afford another house, you can't afford another house. that's it, you don't have to do her that favor. they should consult a financial advisor to help themselves out of it.; September 05, 2008 2:59 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Bob-

I hadn't heard about Todd's ex-business partner and the divorce records. I hadn't even heard that he had had a divorce... all I had heard was that is who the National Enquirer said that SP had the affair with.

Also, the big story is supposed to come out in the NE next week and they say that they have sources.

This is going to be interesting.; September 05, 2008 3:24 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Bob -

Do you have a link for the divorce records story?; September 05, 2008 3:47 PM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Yes: Daily Kos. Quotes very reliable source.; September 05, 2008 4:09 PM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Here it is for those who don't have it.

BREAKING: Court DENIES Motion to Seal Divorce Papers of Todd P. Business Partner

Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 10:22:38 AM PDT
The Alaska Court system's docket page shows that today, the court DENIED the motion to make the case file confidential.

09/04/2008 Order Denying Motion Case Motion #3: Motion to Make Case File Confidential

The link Andrew Sullivan provided only worked once after I'd tried several times to access it, but this seems to indicate that whatever information (good, bad, or irrelevant) is contained in those divorce papers is going to be fair game for the press, if they haven't already accessed it.

Update: Several commenters claim this was previously diaried, but there are no prior posts regarding the court's DENIAL of the motion to seal. Let's let the public and the press make of these papers what they will; the important thing is, whatever is in there will be accessed.

Update 2: I've posted the entire docket below listing the documents on file with the court, for those with capability of searching court documents electronically.

Update 3: Thank you for your kind comments. Let's keep working for the kind of change Barack Obama represents, and watch with amusement at how this scandal stuff plays out.; September 05, 2008 4:14 PM
Doug said...: Way to go Bob!; September 05, 2008 4:26 PM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Thankyou but I didn't do the research. I am only passing it on.; September 05, 2008 4:29 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 05, 2008 4:42 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Thanks Bob :); September 05, 2008 5:13 PM
jean said...: I just came from the office, do most of my work from home.
Every single person I work with is a Repub, now you know why I work from home.
From the minute I walked in it was simply amazing.
They really think that Palin is the best thing that could ever happen.
It has really been a bad Friday.
Someone has to put Palin where she belongs and #1 just stop being nice.
What comes around goes around and Palin DESERVES hers.
jean; September 05, 2008 5:31 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: jean -

I would suggest that you go and find a new job since it appears that the people in your office are not very intelligent and insane. Anyone that thinks that if McCain were to die and Palin could be the leader of the free world they must be crazy!

Obama-Biden '08; September 05, 2008 5:34 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: New headline on HuffingtonPost

*** CLINTON VS PALIN ***

.; September 05, 2008 5:37 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Hehehehe... if Palin does head back to Alaska for a week, as has been reported, and Hillary hits the stump on Monday - it is going to look like Palin is scared shitless!; September 05, 2008 5:38 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: McCain ties may upset abortion foes

Cindy McCain holds investment in two Ariz. buildings that rent space to genetic testing companies.

Excerpt:

John McCain’s wife has held ownership interests in two Arizona medical buildings that rent space to companies involved in the destruction of human embryos found to have genetic defects — a practice some anti-abortion activists say amounts to the taking of human life.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13194.html

.; September 05, 2008 5:47 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Not sure if anyone has caught Biden today. Priceless.....

To summarize he said that if you think this is giving them hell, it isn't. It's giving them the truth and making them feel like they are in hell. He was fired up. That's the Biden that needs to be on the campaign trail.

Good old give em hell Harry. ;o); September 05, 2008 5:57 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: I think this is the one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_t_JxFeDpw; September 05, 2008 5:59 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: How has McCain been doing on the job Arizona people hired him for, and he is collecting our tax dollars to do?

"Missed Votes

John McCain has missed 407 votes (63.8%) during the current Congress. See a list of his missed votes since 1991 or see a full list of vote missers."

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/votes/missed/

And Maverick?

"Voting with Party

John McCain has voted with a majority of his Republican colleagues 88.3% of the time during the current Congress. This percentage does not include votes in which McCain did not vote. See a list of his votes against his party since 1991, a list of all Senators in the 110th Congress with a similar score, or a full list of party voters."; September 05, 2008 6:14 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Ok, I have to confess. I have been confused by the "Straight Talk Express" when all we hear is BS....

So I pulled the following from Websters:

Straight: free from curves, bends, angles, or irregularities

Talk: to convey information or communicate in any way

Express: designed for or adapted to its purpose

Nothing in there about telling the truth. Shooting that bull straight at the Gullible with the intent to convey their twisted messages as the truth so Lemmings will gobble it up.; September 05, 2008 6:28 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Ok, seem to ba talking to myself again. LOL

Will check in later - got some things to do.

You may see me around more. Got banned from VAJoe.com. They couldn't handle the truth. There are a handful diehard Republicans over there. I kept the fight going for several weeks before getting tossed. ;o)

Sad to get thrown out of a Vet site for expressing your opinion, but the Republicans really don't believe in freedom of everyone to speak.; September 05, 2008 6:33 PM
jean said...: leah,
I work with good people, and a few A holes.
Everyone loses their way sometime.
Noone can put themselves as being exempt.
We have two months and one does what one has to do to accomplish it.
Did I mention I am the longest employee in the company;)
I always get what I want he he he:)
jean; September 05, 2008 6:37 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: Emit, there is a board that I'm avoiding because there are about half-dozen republicans there who are completely set in there ways and more than a trifle obnoxious about it. There is no point to discussing with them, as it would just turn into arguement and no one's mind would be opened even a little.

I might go back there in December or so. And lurk and just PM my friends there in the meantime.; September 05, 2008 7:59 PM
Independent Voter said...: Finally, we have someone on the air calling a spade a spade.

Rachel Maddow literally stated that Palin and McCain flat-out LIED and that their continued use of those lies is known as lying!

The only thing that she didn't say is that THEY were liars. I really wish that she would have gone there and called THAT spade a spade, but she was close enough. It was implied.; September 05, 2008 8:36 PM

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