Democratic Convention Watch: Open Thread

Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Open Thread

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What is McCain's latest "senior moment", what does Obama need to do to win in November or whatever else is on your mind.

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Beryl said...: Yeah, they are more likely to bump one of Keith's airings than Chris'.; August 19, 2008 8:59 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here it is already!

Mcain - Ambition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKj5Wx1DbY

.; August 19, 2008 9:01 PM
Beryl said...: Cafferty Commentary: Is McCain another George W. Bush?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/18/cafferty.mccain/index.html

Love it!!; August 19, 2008 9:09 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Obama Veep Pick To Come Friday

CBS News has confirmed that Barack Obama's campaign now plans to announce Obama's vice presidential choice to supporters via email and text message on Friday afternoon. (This plan could change, of course.)

He will then appear with his running mate at noon the next day in Springfield, Illinois, CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder reports.; August 19, 2008 9:09 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Rachel Maddow Replacing Dan Abrams On MSNBC Effective Immediately

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/19/rachel-maddow-replacing-d_n_119929.html

Just in time for the closing rush of the presidential election, MSNBC is shaking up its prime-time programming lineup, removing the long-time host -- and one-time general manager of the network -- Dan Abrams from his 9 p.m. program and replacing him with Rachel Maddow, who has emerged as a favored political commentator for the all-news cable channel.

The moves, which were confirmed by MSNBC executives Tuesday, are expected to be finalized by Wednesday, with Mr. Abrams's last program on Thursday. After MSNBC's extensive coverage of the two political conventions during the next two weeks, Ms. Maddow will begin her program on Sept. 8.; August 19, 2008 9:13 PM
apissedant said...: Maddow stuff, NYT version:

http://tvdecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/19/rachel-maddow-to-replace-dan-abrams-on-msnbc/?hp

I like this analysis. It looks like MSNBC is looking to become the anti-Fox, and I'm all for it.; August 19, 2008 9:19 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Dave,

Re: 'Verdict' - I got OVER Abrams when he kept bringing that GOP tool and fool Brad Blakeman on show after show. I must have sent at least 5 emails to Verdict that they didn't need a Goebbels'-type Republican hack, but an honest person on the show to present a conservative viewpoint.

Blakeman's problem was that he twisted EVERYTHING in such a way that it was good for the GOP.

Political infighting in the Democratic Party? "Shows the Democrats have fractured, suppresses divergent viewpoints, and certain parts of the party will vote for the GOP nominee."

Political infighting in the Republican Party? "Shows the Republican Party is the 'big tent', and tolerates divergent viewpoints."

Abrams must have had SOME reason to keep letting him appear on the show - college roommate? The family of one was friends with someone in the other family?

About two weeks ago, though, some scuttle-butt about Blakeman and lobbying scandals came up (I think in connection with Abramhoff?), and suddenly the idiot has not been on the show since. Coincidence?

I'm very glad to see "happy face Dan's" will not be following Keith in two weeks.

Mike; August 19, 2008 9:21 PM
Independent Voter said...: I guess it's time for me to go get some blistex. LOL; August 19, 2008 9:24 PM
Beryl said...: Friday? Dang. I guess I'll need to do my day job for the next 2 days.

LOL!; August 19, 2008 9:27 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Well I liked the bloopers, blunders and mis-statements part (or whatever it's called) of Dan's show...

I haven't liked his graphics though since they added all of that orange and yellow crap to the screen!; August 19, 2008 9:28 PM
Independent Voter said...: LOL beryl.

Leah, I don't like the graphics either, but I still like his show, with or without Blakeman. And yes MinM I do agree with you on the Blakeman thing, but still, Pat Buchanan is all over the place at MSNBC and he's the biggest nutjob of them all (I still can't believe my mother voted for him.....UGH!!!!); August 19, 2008 9:31 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Beryl-

The link you posted:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/18/cafferty.mccain/index.html

IS GREAT!!!
Thank you for posting it.

I like ol'Cafferty ;)
He's one of the good guys over there on CNN ;); August 19, 2008 9:32 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: so if it's NOT Biden (more or less for sure), then just put me down for Gore. It's a SWAG. but it's *my* SWAG.

it's been a day, I need to go pour more wine.

btw, anyone else planning on election night parties? I'll have a bottle of bubbly if it's good news, and beer to cry into if it's bad. I think my Kiwi husband wants to move back to New Zealand if the "wrong" party wins again.; August 19, 2008 9:34 PM
Beryl said...: Digg it, if you can.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Commentary_Is_McCain_another_George_W_Bush?OTC-ig; August 19, 2008 9:36 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Vicki-

Read my notes up above on the contest post.

No one knows yet anything about Biden - even Biden doesn't know yet ;)
But I'll add Gore as your back up ;); August 19, 2008 9:42 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Dave,

At least Buchanan will sometimes acknowledge when there is something in the news that is detrimental to the GOP or any of it's candidates. Not so with Blakeman.

As I said, an honest analyst will be able to find the good in the bad, but also be able to admit when something happens that reflects bad on their party and/or candidate. Not so with Blakeman.

And since Abrams kept allowing Blakeman to appear time after time, my opinion of Abrams kept dipping lower and lower.

I will admit at one time I thought Blakeman was on the show at times to present the lunatic fringe GOP viewpoint, but he was given too much 'respect' and consideration. I soon discarded that idea as Blakeman got weirder and weirder.

Mike; August 19, 2008 9:42 PM
suzihussein22 said...: This sentence jumped out at me from Cafferty-

I am sick and tired of the president of the United States embarrassing me.; August 19, 2008 9:43 PM
Beryl said...: susi
That jumped out at me too. What is wrong with having a smart president for a change? It has been 8 years since we had a brain in the WH.

Mike in M. - I agree. Blakeman is more annoying than Pat B. He represented the Repugnicans no matter what dumb things they do. OTOH, the representatives for the Dems admit their errors to a fault.; August 19, 2008 9:50 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: Gore is already my backup, isn't he?

dangit! FRIDAY. #*($#&(!!!!!; August 19, 2008 9:56 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: A slip up or a mistake on purpose???

Obama Describes his Ideal VP
by Bonney Kapp

Barack Obama let slip a small detail about his yet-to-be-named running mate at his Raleigh town hall today when he referred to the veep as a “he.”

The candidate and his staff have not given any hints as to who he will name - or even who he is considering and the timing of the announcement, which many believe will occur in the coming days. So when Obama said “he” instead of the less revealing “he or she,” eyebrows rose in the press file as reporters wondered what that comment meant for Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius and former rival Senator Hillary Clinton’s chances to fill the bottom of the ticket.

“By the way, my VP also will be a member of the Executive Branch — he won’t be one of these 4th branches of government where he thinks he’s above the law,” Obama said after saying he would not hand over policy to the veep.

The tight-lipped campaign wouldn’t confirm or deny that Obama’s choice is male.; August 19, 2008 9:57 PM
Beryl said...: It may seem sexist but it is still grammatically correct to use "he" meaning "he or she".

I don't think we should read a lot into that.; August 19, 2008 10:00 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Vicki-

Yes.

So now I am confused.
Do you want Biden or Gore listed first? LOL ;)

You can just disregard this comment if you want Biden first and I will leave everything as it is now.; August 19, 2008 10:00 PM
suzihussein22 said...: m in md-I also have a hard time with someone when they show respect to the point of fawning. No; August 19, 2008 10:09 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Biden Source Downplays VP Denial

How big a deal is today's veepstakes comment from Sen. Joe Biden that "I'm not the guy"?

A figure familiar with Biden's thinking says the remark is hardly consequential.

"That is a comment that he typically gives for people who ask about [the vice presidency]," the source said, adding that it has been the senator's stock answer to the question for weeks now.

In other words, let the speculation continue.

----; August 19, 2008 10:10 PM
suzihussein22 said...: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/19/politics/animal/main4363100.shtml?source=mostpop_story

It's the bloggers' fault. It's the media's fault. Cheese with that whine, McCAin?; August 19, 2008 10:12 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: this is humor, darnitall, and if anyone interprets it as anything else, I shall come and flog them with a chicken feather.

http://www.ecauldron.com/humor45.php

this was sent to me by a friend of mine who is neo-pagan. She was also the first one to sport an Obama bumper sticker on her biodiesel VW, that I know of.

strangely, I identify best with the "posting on an online discussion group" one. LOL!; August 19, 2008 10:20 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: The speakers list for the Democratic convention is HUGE and is still growing each day...

http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/08/convention-speakers-and-agenda.html#IDComment4579053

I wouldn't want to have to sit and listen to all of them!

.; August 19, 2008 10:20 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: oh, and Leah, I didn't mean to confuse you. you can leave it as is. we may all be reading too much into single-word phrases.

dammit! why can't it be FRIDAY!

did we all sign up for the text message/email?; August 19, 2008 10:22 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: This on Keith tonight:

The McCain campaign is rumored to be asking the state Republican party orgs in every state to make sure that a candidate registered as a Democrat can run on the Republican ticket in their state.

I think this is a ruse. It's either a rumor put out by the McCain campaign to throw everyone off, or by another party to stir up the GOP base, but I'm not sure which.

Why do I think it's a ruse:

1. LIEberman is NOT registered as a Democrat, but as an Independent.

2. The one-issue voter GOP base will sit out the election with LIEberman on the ballot.

3. Even if McCain is doing this only as a trial balloon, the one-issue voter GOP base has already clearly let it be known that they will not tolerate a pro-choice candidate on the GOP ticket.

The danger to McCain (and if he doesn't realize it, it validates his fifth-from-the-bottom class ranking at Annapolis) - Just putting this out, even as a trial balloon with no intention of having LIEberman on the ticket, could cause the one-issue voter GOP base to say 'To hell with McCain' anyway, and no matter who he chooses (even the Huckster), will sit out the election.

Mike; August 19, 2008 10:22 PM
suzihussein22 said...: vicki-Loved it! LOL :D; August 19, 2008 10:29 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: suzihussein22 said...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/19/politics/animal/main4363100.shtml?source=mostpop_story

--------------

LOLOLOLOL!!!

I just read the article and then noticed that above the headline it says:
Presented by ExxonMobil; August 19, 2008 10:32 PM
suzihussein22 said...: vicki-This we did. I just have to not look at the front page of Yahoo before I see my email.

OBAMA 08 YES WE CAN; August 19, 2008 10:32 PM
suzihussein22 said...: leah-You just can't make stuff like that up, eh? The truth is stranger than fiction and all that. :D; August 19, 2008 10:34 PM
Independent Voter said...: Suzi, you know what is classic? I went to the link you posted (from CBS) and low and behold, who is the advertiser at the top of the article? EXXON/MOBIL

LMAO!; August 19, 2008 10:35 PM
suzihussein22 said...: Read you guys later...having a narccoleptic moment...probably from being in another time zone for almost a week.

My word verification has wake in it. ;(; August 19, 2008 10:37 PM
Independent Voter said...: OOPS! You beat me to it Leah.; August 19, 2008 10:37 PM
Independent Voter said...: Take care Suzi.; August 19, 2008 10:38 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Well looking at our comments Obama has done a good job getting us to link McCain with ExxonMobil ;); August 19, 2008 10:38 PM
suzihussein22 said...: iv dave-I knew you guys were clever. It was waiting for you to see.; August 19, 2008 10:40 PM
apissedant said...: Leah,
I didn't see Kaine or Sebelius on that list. Oh, by the way, I want Sebelius as my second choice.; August 19, 2008 10:45 PM
apissedant said...: Leah,
The list I speak of is the speaker list.; August 19, 2008 10:46 PM
apissedant said...: Leah,
I think McCain did that all on his own. He's been spending more time on oil rigs than on land of late.

Boy I hope his offshore drilling backfires. Actually, I hope he ends up on a rig that spills while the camera is rolling. Not a bad spill, just enough for the cameramen to catch it.; August 19, 2008 10:49 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: apissedant-

Sebelius is speaking on Tuesday night. She was at the top of the list but after Matt added more speakers she got bumped down into the middle.

You can do a Control F - if you can't find her.; August 19, 2008 10:54 PM
apissedant said...: Leah,
Thanks, she started with Convention instead of Governor or Kansas, so I missed her. No Kaine though... is it a sign? ;)

Isn't it fun attempting to read into innocent things that probably have little to no meaning?; August 19, 2008 11:02 PM
apissedant said...: I say he announces tomorrow and he announces Kaine. I have been right 0 times so far... so I figure this is my time.; August 19, 2008 11:12 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This is what I was referring to earlier about ExxonMcCain

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12337.html

There are even buttons etc. with ExxonMcCain on them... earlier today I saw the buttons in a photo on HuffPost (I think) but I can't find the original that I saw.; August 19, 2008 11:22 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: apissendant-

I think the CBS article is probably correct...

Obama Veep Pick To Come Friday

CBS News has confirmed that Barack Obama's campaign now plans to announce Obama's vice presidential choice to supporters via email and text message on Friday afternoon. (This plan could change, of course.)
-------------------; August 19, 2008 11:27 PM
Karen Anne said...: Re "LIEberman is NOT registered as a Democrat, but as an Independent."

Maybe McCain doesn't know that :-)

One good thing, finally the PTB would have to boot him out of his committee assignments.; August 19, 2008 11:28 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Hey everyone I really think everybody should read this more so Leah and Karen Anne.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rebecca-curtis/summer-love-fall-freak-ou_b_119681.html

Grear article!...AJ; August 19, 2008 11:36 PM
Richard said...: I assume that by "registered" they would be referring to Joe Lieberman's party affiliation on his Connecticut voter registration. Although I can't find it online, I would bet that Sen. Lieberman is still registered as a Democrat; registering as "unaffiliated" would mean that he could not vote in any primary election.

Incidentally, Joe Lieberman did not run as an independent, as most people think. He ran as the candidate of the Connecticut for Lieberman party.; August 19, 2008 11:46 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: AJ -

Read it yesterday and commented with all the reasons that HRC should not be on the ticket ;)

But thanks for the heads up on the article.; August 19, 2008 11:47 PM
Beryl said...: Leah
I agree with you. I read that article yesterday and no way was I going to highlight it here.

The author played to those who still hold biases with her case being made solely on race issues. I was pleased to read the comments because most people rightly assessed it.l; August 20, 2008 12:01 AM
apissedant said...: Leah,
This is all I could find from Marc, and it is from early this afternoon.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/obama_to_appear_with_vp_in_spr.php

It sounds like he is making an educated guess like everyone else.

All that is [possibly] confirmed is that the VP choice will make an appearance in Illinois with Obama on Saturday. That does not prevent him from announcing as early as..... now.

Kaine isn't on the speaking list. Obama will be in Virginia on Wednesday. He is Catholic and has 14 years experience in elected office. He came out in support of Obama VERY early, and has been championing an almost identical message. I think it is a great fit. My only problem is that Kaine is young enough where he might get ideas about a 2016 presidential run, and I DO NOT want that. That could change, maybe he'll grow into something I like more by 2016.; August 20, 2008 12:01 AM
apissedant said...: I posted several days ago that the Bradley effect is bupkus anyways.

Tennessee Democrat Harold Ford Jr. is most definitely a black man. He was polling an average of 6% behind his white, Republican opponent. He ended up losing by 3%. This is the exact opposite of the Bradley effect. This was a silly theory dreamed up by a racist Republican.

I have met a few Democrats that are voting an almost straight Democratic ticket... with the exception of the Presidential race. They may not say it is because of race, but they have no problem saying they won't vote for Obama.; August 20, 2008 12:07 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: apissedant-

I posted the CBS link that said Friday afternoon.

Well, I don't think it will be before Friday. I think the campaign wants everyone to talk about it until Friday then they will announce Friday afternoon so the pundits will talk all evening then Obama and the VP will be on stage Saturday in Illinois. So the Obama camp should dominate the media from now until the convention that starts Monday and then they will dominate all week with the convention.; August 20, 2008 12:09 AM
Richard said...: In case we needed any more proof of Rebecca Curtis' racism, a quick google search uncovers this "story" published in Esquire. Gah.

For someone who wants us to believe she isn't a bigot, AJ chooses strange pundits to praise.; August 20, 2008 12:11 AM
apissedant said...: The main thing is this:

How many black men (or women) have run for public office in this country?

LOTS. Not a ridiculous amount, but no small number.

Out of all those races, they found 4 where the polls showed the black man or woman up much more than it turned out they actually were.

In less than four minutes, I was able to come up with one that showed the opposite trend. If I did even an hour of research, I could easily find another 3, and even more where the polls were about spot on.

In that same hour, I could easily find dozens of white men who polled much higher than they actually ended up doing. We had this problem in 2000 with Gore, 1948 with Dewey, 2004 with Kerry.... this list goes on. Polling is unreliable, but not inherently racist.; August 20, 2008 12:11 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here's the actual link that says that Friday afternoon has been 'confirmed'

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/19/politics/horserace/entry4364243.shtml

.; August 20, 2008 12:13 AM
Aunt Jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; August 20, 2008 12:17 AM
apissedant said...: rich,
That article comes off as satire to me.; August 20, 2008 12:18 AM
Aunt Jean said...: AP

I agree with you on the race part of the link.

I was thinking along the line about Hillary.

You disappoint me on your backup. I'm telling you it will piss off a lot of Hillary supporter and also Richardson would be worst. Not that I think that she would be terrible but just not the right time.

AJ; August 20, 2008 12:20 AM
apissedant said...: Leah,
The article I linked is the source for the article you linked. They basically said what he said, but took conjecture and made it fact. I'm not saying it won't be Friday. It very well could be. I'm just saying, as far as I can tell, they haven't confirmed anything. This whole process is made so that everyone guesses and thinks they know... they report it... then they're wrong... then they start all over.; August 20, 2008 12:21 AM
Richard said...: For Leaah, although it seems a bit of a stretch to me:

http://www.tribbleagency.com/?p=1747

AP - I might take it that way if we didn't have her bigoted post on HP to complement it.; August 20, 2008 12:23 AM
apissedant said...: AJ,
I look at the candidate, not their gender or race. At least I try my best to keep those factors out. She seems good and on message with him. Her and Kaine are closest in style to Obama, so they would mesh best. I only pick Kaine first because I know more about him.; August 20, 2008 12:24 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; August 20, 2008 12:30 AM
tmess2 said...: After reading all the media reports over the past three days on the "inside scoop" on who McCain and Obama will pick for VP, I have come to the following conclusion.

If you are a press secretary for a major politician and your boss has not been mentioned as the choice for VP, you better have your resume ready to send out:); August 20, 2008 12:31 AM
Independent Voter said...: rich, I don't think that AJ was actually "praising" the author, I think that she is just concerned that things may turn out the way that author is predicting. That's all. That does not excuse the author from showing her blatant racism though.

You also have to remember that AJ is a staunch Clinton supporter, but has since come on board the Obama train. She is not as enthusiastic as she would have been if Hillary were the nominee, but she is on board nonetheless.; August 20, 2008 12:34 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I'm still going with this...
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CBS:

August 19, 2008, 2:59 PM

Obama Veep Pick To Come Friday

Posted by Brian Montopoli|

CBS News has confirmed that Barack Obama's campaign now plans to announce Obama's vice presidential choice to supporters via email and text message on Friday afternoon. (This plan could change, of course.)

----

This is later than the Atlantic article by Marc.; August 20, 2008 12:34 AM
apissedant said...: rich,
I would still be more inclined to call her huffpost article as ignorant and incorrect. I don't like jumping straight to the racist card. Stupidity, ignorance, and bad fact checking can also be the culprit. Or just really wanting a headline and pandering with false facts.

She leaves out NC, Iowa, SC, and many other states, where Obama did MUCH better than he polled. The differential between polls and actual in these states were 17.3, 6.2, and 6.7. Bad fact checking and ignorant writing. Possibly racist, but I cannot confirm that so I will not claim that. More likely a manipulative white woman trying to get what she wants (HRC VP) and get some publicity to increase her own stature.; August 20, 2008 12:36 AM
apissedant said...: classify not call, my bad.; August 20, 2008 12:37 AM
apissedant said...: Leah,
Yes, it is 6 minutes later, and using the Marc piece as a primary source. I don't think the entire world changed in 6 minutes.; August 20, 2008 12:39 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: The BIG strike against Kaine is that the Virginia state government is facing a large budget deficit next year, and it looks like one of the only options will be to raise taxes. The GOP would love to have that to sling against an Obama/Kaine ticket.

Most of the reason for the budget deficit is that Virginia didn't pay attention to roads for decades. Also, Virginia doesn't have much ability to direct development to or from certain areas.

Some of the worst traffic in the nation is in Northern Virginia. The reason? Development went helter-skelter everywhere, and too fast for the transportation system to keep up (if any was built). Now that new systems need to be built, there is no money, and it will be extremely expensive to build them through areas that have been developed.

Add to that, there is no way to encourage development to be done in a sane manner. An example - Tysons Corner has one of the ten largest shopping centers in the US, and has more office space than Center City, Philadelphia, yet the population in that area is about 20,000. Even if you live in Tysons, you almost have to drive, as there is no easy pedestrian-friendly manner to get from place to place in Tysons.

This situation is typical of a lot of Virginia - massive need for transportation projects, but little money to pay for them. Most of the problem can be laid at the feet of the 'don't let the government regulate' crowd, the crowd that the GOP has under it's control, and can't be easily educated on this subject. Yet they are the ones who scream very loud about government not helping solve the problems.

Mike; August 20, 2008 12:51 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: apissedant-

But if you read the Marc article you will see a few guesses as to when the text messages might be sent out.

When you read the CBC article it says that Friday afternoon was confirmed.

So I do not think CBC used the Atlantic article for the source of their entire article.

Guess we will have to wait and see ;); August 20, 2008 12:55 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Bayh's Running-Mate Chances May Be Hurt by Wife's Board Seats

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=auTmNXiBqkjE

.; August 20, 2008 12:58 AM
apissedant said...: Mike,
True enough... but Biden has more negatives... and more substantive negatives at that, against him. There are negatives against everyone.

Warner raised taxes and came out smelling like roses. Virginia has still been named the #1 state for business and the best managed state several times under Kaine and Warner. There are a lot of positives that go with that negative.

Maryland's Republican Governor tried to jump all over Kaine and Warner for raising taxes, and they just pointed out that Maryland's taxes are still leaps and bounds above Virginia's, and yet Maryland still has larger budgetary concerns and nothing better to show for it. The insults didn't gain any traction.; August 20, 2008 12:59 AM
apissedant said...: Leah,
I know what you're saying, but the media has a way of, "confirming" by circulating the rumor enough. One entry starts a rumor, and then eight others pick up that rumor... and then the original one uses all the other articles as sources to confirm the rumor that they started.

Like I said, Friday isn't a bad guess, but with as little as the Obama campaign is releasing, I don't buy the confirmation idea. Especially since MSNBC claimed confirmation that all the potential VPs have to keep their calendar clear on Thursday, which would amount to confirmation on a Thursday announcement. Can't confirm two different days and have both confirmations be correct.; August 20, 2008 1:02 AM
apissedant said...: Basically the same thing I said with the whole Edwards debacle. I didn't say that he didn't have an affair, in fact at one point I said it was entirely possible. I just said that the reports had no actual proof of it, and I wasn't going to buy it until I saw proof. Now there's proof, and now I'm disappointed.; August 20, 2008 1:07 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Ap

when I say that if he picks any other woman or more so Richardson.

I'm talking as a Hillary supporter.Yes I know I have gave Leah crap about her but only to piss her off [sorry Leah] I have read up on her and she seems to have a pretty good head on her shoulders. But and there's always a but knowing how it would make me feel as a Hillary supporter if he does would be an insult. Now Richardson is a different story that will make Hillary supporters out and out mad as hell. Is it right probable not.Just how it is.

I know that there are people on here that think I'm a racist. I know I'm not so I don't care what they think.There are plenty of Hillary supporters out there that think that Obama didn't win fair including me because of how bias the media was against Hillary. I'm not one to hold a gruge. I believe it's over deal with it and work with what you got.

But there are plenty of voters that don't feel the way I do. Everyone on here thinks that Obama will be President no problem. Well it might not be that easy if he picks the wrong VP. He doesn't have to pick Hillary just to win but it wouldn't hurt. If he doesn't and he picks Sebelius or Richardson it's going to be very hard on him.

A lot harder than anyone thinks on here. I want a democrat for President. I know that Nader is also running [he's about as useless as tits on a bore hog.

AJ; August 20, 2008 1:23 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: RealClearPolitics

Headline link:Sebelius Coming on Strong at End

Article title: Obama and veep choice to campaign on Saturday

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Aug/19/obama_and_veep_choice_to_campaign_on_saturday.html

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That is strange that the link makes it sound like something about Sebelius but in the article she barely got a mention!; August 20, 2008 1:24 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: WOOOO HOOOOOO....

Read this article!

Obama: McCain ‘Doesn’t Know What He’s Up Against'

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/20/combative-obama/

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Looks like Obama is fixin' to get to fightin' now!; August 20, 2008 1:33 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Ap

no matter who he picks [except Richardson] I hope I'm totally wrong and he wins by a landslide.

AJ; August 20, 2008 1:34 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Aunt Jean-

I understand your feelings about not wanting Obama to pick another woman.

But the way I see it is that it is what Hillary was working for - to break the glass ceiling so that women, any woman, can climb the ladder and get to the top positions.

So it is a double edge sword.

If he picks a man - then women are being left out.

If he picks Sebelius - then the Hillary folks will take it as an insult (which I still do not think it would be an insult - it would be more of showing that Hillary helped another woman to succeed).

I say - let Obama pick who ever he wishes to, since he will be the one having to work with him/her for eight years, and all of us Democrats support him in his decision no matter who it may be :)

.; August 20, 2008 1:42 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

and I agree with you. But if he picks Richardson that will be very hard for even me to swallow. I dislike the man very very much. But if he picks anyone else for me it won't be a problem. I was just thinking about other Hill supporters. AJ; August 20, 2008 1:47 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah hopefuly I'm just worrying for no reason. I just know this for a fact we need a democrat in office something terrible. AJ; August 20, 2008 1:50 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I don't think he is going to pick Richardson. I am not even sure he would put him in his cabinet. Richardson has said that he wants to stay in New Mexico with is horse and I sorta believe him about that. He already did all of that overseas traveling for Bill Clinton and I think Richardson isn't looking forward to going back to Washington (unless it would have been to be President).

I think that Richardson might take a cabinet position if Obama offered it to him but I think Richardson might even say no to that.; August 20, 2008 1:51 AM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, I hope he makes good on what was stated in that article. If he comes out swinging hard I will be extremely happy.; August 20, 2008 1:52 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah I hope you are right. AJ; August 20, 2008 1:53 AM
Independent Voter said...: WOW!!!!!!!!!!

MARK THIS DAY AND TIME ON YOUR CALENDARS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!

Leah and AJ are agreeing on something. Wednesday August 20th 1:42 - 1:51 AM (ET of course)

:); August 20, 2008 1:55 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

how's this after McLame loses by a landslide I will feel sorry for him that he's not in his right mind. LOL AJ; August 20, 2008 1:56 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave
be quite. LOL AJ; August 20, 2008 1:57 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I think that when he came back from Hawaii we started a new phase and during and after the convention we are going to see a stronger and more feisty Obama, but he will still fight clean when throwing lots of punches!

I've always thought that he'd fight hard but not too soon. Especially in October I think we will see Obama demolish McCain!; August 20, 2008 1:58 AM
Independent Voter said...: AJ, I said it earlier when suzi said that he has lost his mind, "he had to have one before he could lose it." The same thing is true in this case, "he would have to have a mind to begin with to 'be in his right mind'."; August 20, 2008 1:58 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: LOL :); August 20, 2008 1:59 AM
Independent Voter said...: LOL AJ; August 20, 2008 2:00 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave

I said after the election. You have to feel sorry for him he's an old man with no brain then. LOL AJ; August 20, 2008 2:01 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Something else that I think...

I think that Obama was furious when he found out that McCain did not show up at the Faith Forum on time.

And so I think this is part of the reason the gloves have come off.

He knows that McCain didn't show up on time on purpose so that he could hear the questions prepare answers beforehand.

Obama is a principled man even though he is a politician and I think that what McCain did really pissed Obama off!

No one likes to be played a fool - and that is what McCain did to Obama.; August 20, 2008 2:02 AM
Independent Voter said...: True that Leah. I think you are right on that. One thing I think we saw during the primary is that "peaking" at the right time is paramount. I think what happened with Clinton is that she peaked twice in the campaign. The first time was actually before the primaries even started and then once again at the end of the primaries. Where Obama started to peak with a few blips, but then took off in February where he actually did peak. So if he can get to a point to where he peaks again toward the very end of October beginning of November he will do great.

Please don't take that offensive AJ, that is just how I saw it.; August 20, 2008 2:03 AM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, my 2:03 post was in response to your 1:58 post.; August 20, 2008 2:05 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: When "Losing One's Bearings" Is An Appropriate Campaign Attack

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/18/when-losing-ones-bearings_n_119723.html

.; August 20, 2008 2:07 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

there is something I want to do.

I want to apolgize to you for saying that you were a republician troll I know you're not.That you have been behind Obama since I've been posting on this thread.I was way out of line. AJ; August 20, 2008 2:08 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave
on your 2:03 am post. I understand where you are getting it.You might be right. AJ; August 20, 2008 2:14 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah and Dave

I'm off to bed I've got to take my mother somewhere tomorrow early so I had better get my butt in bed. Have a goodnight. AJ; August 20, 2008 2:17 AM
Independent Voter said...: Goodnight AJ.; August 20, 2008 2:18 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Aunt Jean-

Apology accepted.

Let's try together to keep focusing forward and not look back.

Now we have an election to win!; August 20, 2008 2:20 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Goodnight AJ.

And anyone else that is off to bed.; August 20, 2008 2:21 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah as Dave and ap would put it so loudly {YOU DAMN RIGHT WE DO!!}

lol AJ; August 20, 2008 2:22 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: IV-

I am sure that the Obama camp is saving up some ads and talking points for later in the race... but so are the Republicans.

The good thing that we have on our side is all of the extra democrats that have been registered during the long primary race. The republicans didn't have that advantage.

I wonder if there is a tally somewhere of how many total Democrats vs. Republicans (per state) there are now that are eligible to vote.; August 20, 2008 2:24 AM
Independent Voter said...: Leah,

Excellent point. From my understanding, Democrats outnumbers Republicans by something like 3-4% (nationwide) and that Republicans had actually lost party members. It use to by 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 (one of those being "independent" or "undeclared"). It hasn't changed much from those numbers however there has definitely been a swing toward the Democrats.; August 20, 2008 2:34 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: apissedant said...
Maryland's Republican Governor tried to jump all over Kaine and Warner for raising taxes. . . .

That POS [former governor] Boobie Ehrlich???

Don't get me started on what that idiot did to the state in the four years he stained the Governor's Mansion in Annapolis.

Mike; August 20, 2008 2:43 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Voter registration shifts from Republican
Published: Aug. 5, 2008 at 9:07 AM

WASHINGTON, Aug. 5 (UPI) -- The number of registered Republican voters in the United States fell as registered Democrats rose since the last general election, voting experts said.

But, almost as often, people are registering to vote without declaring any party affiliation, The New York Times (NYSE:NYT) reported Tuesday.

While implications for the general election remain unclear, experts told the Times voting registration numbers may signal a movement away from the GOP that could affect local, state and national politics for several election cycles.

In battleground states such as Iowa and Nevada, state officials reported more registered Democrats than Republicans, a reversal from 2004. No state officials reported a similar switch to more registered Republicans than Democrats for the same period.

A dozen states report the number of voters registering as independent outpaced both Republicans and Democrats.

"This is very suggestive that there is a fundamental change going on in the electorate," Michael McDonald, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and political science associate professor at George Mason University who studies voting patterns, told the Times.; August 20, 2008 2:46 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Democratic voter registration continues to surge in Florida

http://www.americablog.com/2008/08/democratic-voter-registration-continues.html; August 20, 2008 2:51 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: According to Wikipedia

Registered voters in 2004

Democrats: 72 million

Republicans: 55 million

Independents: 42 million

It will be interesting to see the numbers in 2008.; August 20, 2008 3:01 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: Dave,

On the party ID registration, in June 538.com had a column on party registration (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/06/worlds-simplest-election-projection.html). The party ID figures were based on a combination of three recent surveys: Gallup, Rasmussen , and Pew.
Democrats - 38.2
Republicans - 28.9
Independents - 32.9

The key to winning will be getting out the Democrats to vote on November 4, and getting a near split or better with the Independents. If McLame has a pro-choice VP candidate on his ticket (Ridge or LIEberman), that's even better, as it would depress the Repig voters, and they would stay home. If he chooses Mittens Romney, it would depress the Evangelical vote. If he chooses Alaska's Gov. Palin, her potential legal problems could haunt the ticket.; August 20, 2008 3:27 AM
Richard said...: HosertoHoosier over at 538 has a great comment, part of which I excerpt here:

Today we are going to learn how to play veepstakes.

1. Pick a candidate at random.

2. Put together a list of adjectives that describe the candidate.

3. Claim that people sharing those adjectives will be more likely to vote for the candidate.

4. Take a look at what state the candidate is from. Is it a swing or lean state? If so, the candidate can win it. If not, point out that historically the effect of VP's on swing states has been small.

5. Picture the candidate in a tank, then picture the candidate wearing a hard hat, while visiting a steel mill. Which of these images appeals most to do? If you said tank, then the candidate is strong on national defence. If you said hard hat, the candidate is strong on the economy. CEO's are automatically strong on the economy, while veterans are automatically strong on defence.

6. The next part is tricky. Is your veepstake selection more similar to the presidential candidate or more different. If similar, then the VP will increase the salience of key issues. If different, then the VP will make up for strengths. If neither, think of an issue they might have mentioned. They are now strong on that issue.

7. Are they a congressman? They have Washington experience. Governor? They have executive experience. Political outsider? They are a fresh face who can clean up Washington. Or VP/first lady? They will guarantee a victory, unless they don't.

8. Finally, we have ideology. Centrists are smart picks aimed at increasing appeal to independents. Hardliners are smart picks aimed at appeasing the base.

Worried that your analysis might be crap? Don't be. VP's don't matter anyway, so it would be hard for you to be proven wrong.; August 20, 2008 8:26 AM
Doc Pickles said...: Mike in Maryland is spot on about getting voters out, especially new voters. If the campaign stays positive and looks to the future this base of new voters will carry the election for Obama. Now and then McCain will have to get a slapdown for sneaking out of his cone of silence but the focus really should remain on America and the future. This is the most inspiring and invigorating election

All of these new voters and forward thinking Indies are the key. There will be a lot of new voters this time around.

Hillary did a great service to the party, everybody who is able really should chip in a ten spot to help her pay the gas bill. She stayed in the race for the long haul and turned the primary into a massive sign-up drive for new Democrats. In some states like Wyoming the number of voters increased tenfold and now a traditionally safe republican state like North Dakota or Alaska has an energized Democrat voice which forces McCain to campaign in places he would never have had to visit otherwise.

The primaries gave everybody a chance to really flesh out policy and strengthen the organization. All 50 states have already had a say in this election and it has really energized the party on a grassroots level, even in places that won't be voting in this election had a significant voice. How many times have primary results from Democrats Abroad or American Samoa ever made front page news?

Now there are strong grassroots organizations in all 50 states for the Democrats. In contrast, McCain is outspending Obama on the ground in only one state, Florida, where he's piggybacking on an already strong Republican organization.

After Super Tuesday the McCain organization drifted along like a bloated sack of nerf balls on a river and his organization was never really tested. Now that McCain has to face a real candidate that cracks are showing and now the Republican base is either uninspired or indifferent. What a contrast.

Stay positive!; August 20, 2008 8:57 AM
Doc Pickles said...: PS Sebelius would be great. That guy with the PowerPoint show is my dark horse pick and would be a jawdropping stunning amazing pick but that could never happen. He'd never want to be the vice president...

... would he?; August 20, 2008 9:07 AM
Karen Anne said...: Lots of new Democratic voters being registered won't mean much if they can't vote. I hope the campaign is paying attention to seeing that the registrations aren't disallowed for real or imagined flaws and that people aren't also purged off the rolls.

Everyone seems to have forgotten the mess in that area last time.; August 20, 2008 9:49 AM
apissedant said...: First off...

I just read last nights posts, and they're beautiful. =)

Second off,
Yes Mike, your former Governor sucked. The point was, that even in the red state of Virginia, voters can forgive a tax hike as long as they come out unarguably better off at the end of the day. People really care about how much money they have to spend at the end of the day, not always just how much the government took. Clinton also did ok after hiking the marginal tax rate by 4%, because the economy shot through the roof, so American's disposable income still grew, despite the fact that the government took a bigger piece of the pie.; August 20, 2008 10:04 AM
apissedant said...: oh canada,
What guy with the powerpoint presentation? I can't think of anyone that doesn't have a powerpoint presentation.

Heck, I have one, can I be the VP?

;); August 20, 2008 10:05 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: power point presentation? the only one I can think of, is Colin Powell - you don't mean HIM, do you?

(he wouldn't be bad, but he'd never be offered, and he wouldn't take it if he was, IMHO); August 20, 2008 10:22 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: I couldn't stand it - I signed up to get a text message.; August 20, 2008 10:41 AM
Richard said...: Viki - I signed up for an email, but I decided not to give Obama my cell number. He already has my land line, and I think that's enough.; August 20, 2008 11:08 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: he probably had your landline already. LOL! I expect the calls to increase in late Oct/early Nov.

oh, they know where we live and what our numbers are.

I just hope that I don't get a brazillion calls that run up my cell phone bill.; August 20, 2008 11:31 AM
Doc Pickles said...: Oh boy those are bad memories, I've been trying to forget about Powell's weapons of mass distraction powerpoint show at the UN but I really meant the guy with the Inconvenient Truth travelling powerpoint roadshow!; August 20, 2008 12:19 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: oh THAT guy. he's actually my personal favorite, too. but I don't think Al Gore would be asked, or accept, either. drat!; August 20, 2008 12:25 PM
Independent Voter said...: Apparently Cindy McCain has a second half-sister that she doesn't speak to either.; August 20, 2008 12:49 PM
Beryl said...: Please don't get me started on Cindy. I can't stand that woman.

On a positive note:

Barack Obama's Plan to Support Working Women and Families
Read it:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4194155/Barack-Obamas-Plan-to-Support-Working-Women-and-Families

Digg it:
http://digg.com/politics/Barack_Obama_s_Plan_to_Support_Working_Women_and_Families_2; August 20, 2008 1:24 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: funny, I haven't gotten any texts to that effect. from anyone.; August 20, 2008 1:40 PM
jean said...: Please remember we were asked not to respond in any form to trolls.
jean; August 20, 2008 1:42 PM
Doc Pickles said...: Troller etiquette: ignore like spam

Speaking of spam I just signed up for the email! Looking forward to it tomorrow or Friday morning?

This is a fun week.; August 20, 2008 1:50 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: it is a fun week! I'm deep cleaning the house right now, I have the cell in my back pocket so it's with me everywhere ...; August 20, 2008 1:57 PM
Doc Pickles said...: Even Democrat supporters qualify for compensation!

"You, too, can be a mindless, rewarded McCain campaign troll"

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16480.html; August 20, 2008 2:16 PM
Beryl said...: Nice article, OC!

McCain is low life - tells misogynist jokes, laughs at and uses slurs against women, commits adultery, and LIES and supports LIES which killed over 1 million innocents.

People who are willing to take money to support him are equally low-life.

I so believe in Karma though and the McScum supporters will get theirs in the end. It won't be pretty.; August 20, 2008 2:24 PM
Beryl said...: Mainly for AJ

US Rep. Tubbs Jones of Ohio suffers aneurysm
http://tinyurl.com/tubbsjones

Very sad.; August 20, 2008 2:28 PM
Independent Voter said...: beryl,

Very sad indeed. My step-brother's wife was killed about 4 months ago due to an aneurysm that also took place while she was driving. Her car was deflected off the curb and rear-ended a bus. It was horrible.

Here was the story: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/114195

She was the ONLY one of the family members on my father's side that I really cared for. I don't get along with any of the step family except for my step-siblings spouses. My step-brother is a jerk and my two step-sisters are well, I won't go there. I can't even stand my step-mother (they all have a sense of entitlement.); August 20, 2008 2:45 PM
Independent Voter said...: UGH! I swear! Some gays are such fags. I hate chewing other gays out, but I had to do it. There is a drama queen on Obama's site that simply disgusts me because of his hatred of religion. I replied to one of his posts today really ripping him a new you know what.

Granted I'm not one in favor of religion which is no secret, but I also respect other people's right to believe. This guy simply went off because of Obama's support of separate but equal approach to same-sex marriage vs. civil unions. I simply called him out as nothing but a drama queen. LOL! He wasn't too happy about it, but hey if the shoe fits.....right?; August 20, 2008 3:38 PM
Independent Voter said...: Thank you to the clean-up crew for taking out the trash ;); August 20, 2008 3:42 PM
jean said...: AHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Fresh and Clean;)
jean; August 20, 2008 3:42 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: CNN is reporting that Michael Moore sent an open letter to Caroline Kennedy, "expresses deep reserve with leading VP candidates Joe Biden and Evan Bayh because of their votes to authorize the Iraq war, and urges Kennedy to float her own name for the position."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/20/caroline-kennedy-floated-for-vp/

Interesting, but I don't think it will go far. Caroline Kennedy is not the type of person who would put personal and corporate interest ahead of country, something that happened the last time the head of a VP selection committee chose themself for VP.

Mike; August 20, 2008 3:50 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: ah, fresh n clean! I've been deep cleaning the house, it looks much nicer. Found my husbands stash of old shoes. Why does he never throw them out?

on the Obama front, still waiting for my text message!; August 20, 2008 4:21 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: (I guess for the same reason I hang onto those comfy brown shoes - but I have ONE pair I can't toss, he has at least 10 pair)

LOL; August 20, 2008 4:23 PM
Beryl said...: Yeah, I think Michael Moore misses the mark here. In a different world, Caroline would be ideal though.

Right now, we need a VP who can help us win.

I put McCain supporters in 3 categories:

1. Ignorant (stupid, dull, fearful etc.)
2. Evil (primarily racists but also those who want to see American in ruin)
3. Greedy (corporatists, war profiteers, etc.)

The latter 2 will never support Obama no matter who he pick as his VP unless that pick is one of them.

The ignorant have fallen victims of Republican deceptive practices but there is hope for them. The VP needs to help allay their fears and give them comfort in an Obama Presidency.; August 20, 2008 4:24 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: very sad about Rep Tubbs-Jones.

a good friend of mine passed over 10 years ago from aneurisms. She was only 39. she had increasingly bad headaches, but she didn't want to see the doc till her insurance kicked in (90 day waiting period, she had a new job). Finally, her co-workers shipped her off to the ER one day, when she collapsed.

it was a lesson for me in how short and precious our time on earth really is.

in an act of noblesse oblige (or however you spell it) - her employer paid her hospital bill after she passed. or perhaps it was "fear of lawsuit." however you say that in French.

very sad. My prayers are with the congresswoman. I hope she recovers completely.; August 20, 2008 4:27 PM
jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; August 20, 2008 4:50 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Obama's 2008 VP Pick Contest

Leah - Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (Caroline Kennedy)
Vicki - Senator Biden (Gore)
Rich - Gov. Bill Richardson (Biden)
Independent Voter - Senator Lincoln Chafee (Powell/Biden)
apissedant - Gov. Tim Kaine (Sebelius)
AJ - Senator Jack Reed
Beryl - Chuck Hagel (Biden/Sebelius/Clark/Kaine/Clinton/Richardson)
Karen Anne - Senator Evan Bayh (Gore/Lincoln Chafee)
tmess2 - Senator Evan Bayh (Gov. Salazar)
Oh Canada - Gov. Kathleen Sebelius
jean - Senator Biden (Reed)

Have I missed anyone?

Anyone one else have a guess?

Note:
1) No one knows anything yet except for Obama and Michelle.
2) Obama has not told any of the possible picks if they are the one or not.
3) The VP will be at the Springfield, Ill, Obama event Saturday.
4) The VP pick will be announced anytime between now and the event Saturday. The Obama supporters will be text messaged/emailed first before they release a formal announcement to the press.; August 20, 2008 4:50 PM
jean said...: Leah,
Very interesting Dark Horse choice.
jean; August 20, 2008 4:56 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I would like to see Obama put Robert Kennedy Jr. in his administration somewhere.; August 20, 2008 5:04 PM
jean said...: Huh,
Mitt Romney will be at the Dem convention holding press conferences.
Sounds like things will get dirty.
I really think it is time to pull out the stops.
jean; August 20, 2008 5:06 PM
jean said...: Leah,
I think Robert Kennedy Jr. will be working directly with Gore.
jean; August 20, 2008 5:08 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: McCain On Reinstituting A Military Draft: ‘I Don’t Disagree’

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/mccain-support-draft/

.
Now McCain will probably say that he didn't say that or that he didn't hear the question!!!; August 20, 2008 5:18 PM
suzihussein22 said...: I just played the presidential match game at ABC. I overwhelmingly picked Obama's stances.; August 20, 2008 5:20 PM
suzihussein22 said...: I want a president that doesn't cause this country to be despised anymore.

I want a president that will lead and lead in the right direction.

I want a president that doesn't overlook one of the main foundations of this country-workers and small businesses.

I want a president that helps ensure our civil rights without further restricting our individual freedoms.

AMERICA '08 EQUALS OBAMA '08; August 20, 2008 5:26 PM
suzihussein22 said...: I'm not voting for inspiration and eloquence. I'm voting for integrity and real leadership.; August 20, 2008 5:36 PM
jean said...: Hey suzi,
How are the kids?
Ready for school?
jean; August 20, 2008 5:38 PM
apissedant said...: The little clip of McCain and the idiot questioner made me do five seconds of research on illegal immigrants and medicaid... and this is what I found:

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN1346120320070313

Illegal immigrants don't have access to crap. Our nation gives EMERGENCY access to ANYONE, including veterans, illegals, and anyone else who walks through the door. They do not have access to the best specialists or any of that other garbage the right wing tries to shove down our throats. I'm tired of lies.

I want a President that speaks openly, honestly, and intelligently about real issues. I want a President who isn't afraid to tell me when I have my head shoved squarely up my ass, or tell any of the other 300 million citizens for that matter. I'm tired of Presidents promoting or at least placating ignorance.

My wife was a LEGAL immigrant, and she was not able to get any state or federal support for medical care, regardless of what income she or I made. The only thing the state/federal government will assist with, is EMERGENCY care, and birth control. That's it.; August 20, 2008 5:41 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: suzi-

Thanks for telling us about the match-up.

I got 9 out of 10 right for Obama :); August 20, 2008 5:41 PM
Doc Pickles said...: Obama will win this election because of the new voters, but it never hurts to have a few Republicans onboard.

Lots of Republicans are good people who want to see their country managed sensibly under a government that protects their freedoms.

They like balanced budgets, they like liberal trade, and they don't want to see hundreds of billions of dollars siphoned off from their economy to fight wars in a country they can't find on the map.

Bill Clinton didn't raise taxes, encouraged trade with the outside world, protected individual rights and freedoms, and balanced the budget. Sounds like the kind of administration a typical moderate Republican would be happy to support.

Contrast that with to this current war hungry administration who eavesdrops on its own citizens phone calls, runs up record deficits, alienates their country from the rest of the world.

There are plenty of good Republicans out there who would vote for Obama. Just ask Abe Lincoln!

Speaking of Lincoln, all eyes are on Springfield Illinois this Saturday.; August 20, 2008 5:48 PM
suzihussein22 said...: leah-You're welcome. ;)

jean-I had a great day and so did the kids. I showed my daughter another way of looking at division and am getting supper started. Thanks!; August 20, 2008 5:49 PM
Independent Voter said...: The only problem that I have with Leah's clip is that it doesn't put his full answer in context. I wish they would have continued it so we could watch him dodge as he discussed the draft issue.; August 20, 2008 6:04 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Everyone be sure to vote for Obama in the MSNBC "iPREDICT" poll once-a-day EVERYDAY until the election :)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18661488/vid/24982160; August 20, 2008 6:10 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Independent Voter -

Later this evening do a search on YouTube.com for McCain Draft then click on the today option and maybe something will show up later ;); August 20, 2008 6:16 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Cindy McCain's Mother Teresa Adoption Story False

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/08/20/watchdogs-make-it-harder-for-politicians-to-stretch-the-truth/

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The McCains have no integrity and they are liars!!!; August 20, 2008 6:19 PM
jean said...: suzi,
Glad you had a good day.
The math sounds like you made it fun.
I had a great day also.
I met with the VP,AD,and two Varsity coaches and my daughter can carry her meds ON campus.
I had letters from heck.
I am exhausted LOL.
I do not remember things being this hard when I was younger (Back in the Dark Ages;)

I cannot believe the Cindy McCain story about Mother Teresa.
Wow.
I am not religious nor Catholic but I would never lie about Mother Teresa.
jean; August 20, 2008 6:41 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: The other night at the Faith Forum John McCain repeated the lie about Mother Theresa.

So John McCain has no problem with LYING in a CHURCH!

This should be top headlines on all of the news but as we all know the media is in the tank for McCain!!!; August 20, 2008 6:56 PM
jean said...: Leah,
It needs to be in a commercial and aired in the battleground states.
The bible belt will go nuts!; August 20, 2008 7:02 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Obama rally in Virginia live streaming now on www.cnn.com

.; August 20, 2008 7:18 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Breaking news on CNN:

"Ohio Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died after suffering an aneurysm, medical officials say."

No further details yet.

My sympathy goes to her family.

Mike; August 20, 2008 7:23 PM
Beryl said...: "McCain On Reinstituting A Military Draft: ‘I Don’t Disagree’"

McLiar McCain will need a draft because NOBODY (especially the eligible who are disproportionately poor and minority) will go to war for him!

That maniac WILL put us in WWIII because of his ineptitude and just plain poor judgment.

He will need to institute a draft to get troops on the ground. As a result, there will be massive uprisings in the US because the target inductees will not want to go to war because they had NOTHING to do with putting McStupid in office.

It will be ugly, "my friends".

For the sake of the US, we need to keep McWar out of the WH.; August 20, 2008 7:29 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Keith Olberman on Countdown just mentioned what McCain said about the DRAFT.

Obama/Sebelius '08; August 20, 2008 8:18 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Cindy McCain's Mother Teresa Adoption Story False

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/08/20/watchdogs-make-it-harder-for-politicians-to-stretch-the-truth/

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And John McCain told the false story in CHURCH at the Faith Forum.

The McCains have no integrity and they are liars!!!

VOTE ALL of the Republicans OUT of office!

Obama/Sebelius '08; August 20, 2008 8:29 PM
Beryl said...: "Cindy McCain's Mother Teresa Adoption Story False"

Call these stories exaggerations and embellishments. I call them LIES! Cindy is LYING when she said she was an only child because she knew about her 1/2 sisters. She was LYING when she said that she met Mother Theresa. Come on, you know when you actually meet someone like that.

I'm sick of LIARS!

Mistakes are different. Obama told stories he was told by his family that turned out to be inaccurate. His uncle helped free the prisoners at a different concentration camp and his parents' marriage took place before an event they referenced as influencing them. That doesn't mean that he lied. He believed something that turned out to be untrue.

We all need to stop supporting liars. Thousands of US troops are dead because of White House lies.; August 20, 2008 8:31 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Number 3 story on Keith...

McCain and his draft comment!

I hope the media keeps this in the news for days and days!; August 20, 2008 8:41 PM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, I totally agree with you. I like KO saying that Obama doesn't have a judgment problem, he has a JM LIES about him problem.; August 20, 2008 8:45 PM
suzihussein22 said...: At last, the goofy picture moment for a candidate-

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/us/politics/20campaign.html

It took him long enough to be able to get a photo op on an oil rig. Don't they look so beautiful in our waters?; August 20, 2008 8:53 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Bill Mahr last night made a good statement last night on Larry King when he was talking about not drilling in our waters:

"Water and Oil don't mix"; August 20, 2008 9:16 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: I am SOOOOO relieved that Verdict with Dan Abrams will be off the air after tomorrow's show.

The first 10 minutes of tonight's show was "discussing" Ralph Nader's suggestion that Clinton should be chosen as the VP nominee, otherwise Senator Obama is guaranteed to lose.

Almost nothing about how it could cause the complacent Repig voters to suddenly have an interest in voting JUST because there's a Clinton on the ticket.

Lies about how it automatically gets 18 million more voters for Senator Obama (more than half of HRC's voters have ALREADY stated they will vote for BHO).

Nothing about the credibility of Nader in the view of anyone, left or right.

The rest of tonight's show, then tomorrow night, and then we get someone who isn't pretending to be 'fair and balanced'.

Mike; August 20, 2008 9:19 PM
Beryl said...: Abrams has been consistent on this point: HRC should be selected as VP. I'm pretty tired of him though and ready to see Rachael take over during that time slot.

Obama needs to win and if it takes HRC, so be it.

Two things are prerequisite:

* HRC must leash or muzzle Bill

* Obama obtains food tasters and the best Secret Service Agents ever.; August 20, 2008 9:28 PM
suzihussein22 said...: My friend and my friend aren't my friends-

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/warring-mccain-obama-camps/

This is from commenter 24 on that story. I couldn't put it better myself-

If Obama had offered his wife at a BET “shake- your-booty” contest, he would have been eviscerated by the press. If he did that then appeared before evangelicals to talk about his strong christian faith, he would have been called a hypocrite. If Obama’s adviser on Georgia or Iraq was on the payroll of the Georgian government, he would have been skewered for it. If he had entered Harvard Law because of his daddy’s connections, graduated 5th from bottom and received a Supreme Court Clerkship, he would have been called the low-IQ affirmative action candidate…. the list is endless.

leah said-"Water and Oil don't mix"

Yeah, I'd rather limit that to seeing canola oil in my cooking water.; August 20, 2008 9:31 PM
Independent Voter said...: beryl, I hope you're ready for the fallout from AJ about your second condition. :); August 20, 2008 9:32 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: What Does CNBC Know That We Don't Know?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/20/what-does-cnbc-know-that_n_120211.html

CNBC's copy of the schedule for next week's Democratic National Convention in Denver ends in either a clue or a slip-up. The DNC schedule, posted this morning, features all of the speakers you'd expect. On first glance, the most notable/unintentionally funny part is where it says "8:00PM EDT, Women of the Senate, Sen. Chris Dodd, CT."

But then you get to the end:

"Obama Acceptance Speech (35 -40 minutes)
Fireworks
Barack, Michelle, VP, Mrs. VP all at podium"

-------

VP and Mrs. VP !!!!

This could be something false to get us off of track ;); August 20, 2008 9:33 PM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, that first part about Dodd. That is some funny shiiiitttt!

I think it should be "Tribute to Women of the Senate".

But I think all that last part tells us is that it is a married male.; August 20, 2008 9:40 PM
suzihussein22 said...: leah and CNBC-Their slip is showing. ;); August 20, 2008 9:47 PM
apissedant said...: Tim Kaine =)

Maybe tomorrow he'll announce it here in Hampton Roads Virginia. =); August 20, 2008 9:47 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Hmmmm... WAIT A MINUTE!!!

Obama team doesn't know yet who the VP will be ... it is probably just a typo or some staff member that wasn't thinking when they typed it up. Now I feel better ;); August 20, 2008 9:48 PM
jean said...: Ok,
We have already discussed that Christmas is coming on this Blog with the VP announcement being the beginning.
Levity is very important and there has been a lot of crap about McCain today to put it mildly.
I will erase this if anyone laughs at me but not with me;)
Have you heard the Twelve Days of Christmas?

Hum Hum clearing my voice.

On the first day after the election my true love gave to me,
Barak Obama in the White House:)
On the second day after the election my true love gave to me,
US Secretary Gore for the Environment.
On the third day after the election my true love gave to me,

I need contributions to continue this thing or you can just get the idea;)

I told you I was going to come up with something for the holiday:0; August 20, 2008 9:50 PM
suzihussein22 said...: HRC for Sec of Health; August 20, 2008 9:55 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: ..... A new puppy for the Malia and Sasha Obama; August 20, 2008 9:57 PM
suzihussein22 said...: Biden for Defence; August 20, 2008 10:02 PM
suzihussein22 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; August 20, 2008 10:03 PM
suzihussein22 said...: OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA; August 20, 2008 10:05 PM
suzihussein22 said...: Hagel for Sec of State; August 20, 2008 10:06 PM
suzihussein22 said...: When I see Sec of Transportation, I think hit the road jack.; August 20, 2008 10:07 PM
suzihussein22 said...: Okay, I'll curb my blogitis for a few minutes.; August 20, 2008 10:08 PM
jean said...: suzi,
You are cracking me up.
Starting dinner will be back shortly.
We have to have can McCain somewhere;)
jean; August 20, 2008 10:09 PM
suzihussein22 said...: jean-Starting dinner? Chew on this-

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080820/sc_livescience/sixthtastediscoveredcalcium; August 20, 2008 10:13 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I'm still pushing Sebelius :)

Here is the link to the BIG NEWS PAGE on HuffPost for Sebelius:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/kathleen-sebelius

Here is the link to her page on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius

I am starting to hate the idea that the announcement will be coming soon - if it isn't her! LOL :); August 20, 2008 10:25 PM
suzihussein22 said...: Here's a contest to enter on Comedy Central-

http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/08/18/caption-challenge-john-mccain-and-barack-obama/

You could also sign a petition asking to let Colbert and Stewart speak at the DNC.; August 20, 2008 10:28 PM
suzihussein22 said...: Does it look like to you that Obama's picture is not showing for his big news page on HuffPo?; August 20, 2008 10:30 PM
Independent Voter said...: Oh look! What a great picture of John and George. Together again.; August 20, 2008 10:41 PM
Independent Voter said...: OOPS! Don't have the kids around if you open that picture.; August 20, 2008 10:41 PM

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