Democratic Convention Watch: Open Thread

Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Open Thread

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What is McCain's latest "senior moment", what does Obama need to do to win in November or whatever else is on your mind.

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Independent Voter said...: Mike in Ga, Thank you. He is doing much better. He still has several months of recovery, but he'll live.

You are absolutely correct. We, Bill and I, are not the die-hard gay rights advocates. We are more "equal rights" advocates. Like I said the other day, we don't care what it is called "marriage" or "civil unions" because we do realize that "marriage" is an establishment that came from the church. However, that is also an institution that should not be recognized by the state unless everyone is entitled to the same rights, responsibilities and benefits afforded to our heterosexual counterparts.

At the same time, our civil rights are not as pressing as those of the rest of the country at this point. At least not in our minds. I personally believe that the economy in general needs to be settled, the Iraq war needs to come to an end, women's rights need to be cemented (AND extended - equal pay for equal work), the minimum wage should be increased (beyond the recent increase), healthcare needs to be afforded to ALL Americans, etc.

We could take advantage of California's same-sex marriage laws (since the Supreme Court overturned the ban), but until it is recognized on a federal level, we feel that it does us no good. We have each other, and that is enough for us at this point.

There are MANY within the gay community that fit directly into the stereotype. But first and foremost they are still human beings and deserve the same respect as anyone else, not only as human beings but also as Americans. It is unfortunate that we do have many within our community that do illegal drugs, that are very promiscuous, but it isn't because it is more prominent, it is simply noticed more because we are not considered to be mainstream and is emphasized because we are a minority in society. This is no excuse bur I don't reject people from my life because they do something that I don't like. I will inform them of my feelings but I try not to judge them. The main reason is because they could be looking to me for help, and I would feel horrible if I didn't make myself available to help in their time of need.

Again, thank you for opening, not only your eyes, but your mind and seeing that we truly live our lives just like any other American family, the only difference is that we have the same sex organs.; September 09, 2008 9:19 PM
Independent Voter said...: Karen Anne - 49, yes FORTY-NINE stars on the flag.; September 09, 2008 9:20 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Mike In Ga.

thanks a bunch I will take that as a compliment. LOL

I've been thru a lot in my life and I guess the older I get the more determined that I won't give up. Besides I was to big of a tomboy when I was a kid. LOL AJ; September 09, 2008 9:23 PM
suzihussein22 said...: iv dave-I think unions need a really big overhaul myself. They could still be so beneficial for fair wages and work surroundings if the "bosses" of the unions would go back to basics. I don't see how universal coverage can get started until pharmaceuticals have some oversight(regulation?). They need to justify their rate of inflation as compared to goods and services of this country.; September 09, 2008 9:25 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suz

if I got a belly ring my mother would probable have a heart attack. As it is she tells me all the time that I dress to young as far as that goes my whole family does. I told them if they didn't like the way I dressed not only can they buy me a whole new wardrobe but they can pay my bills. LOL

Needless to say they have toned the comments down. LOL AJ; September 09, 2008 9:28 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave is it the fact that the flag or I guess it's a flag only has 49 stars. AJ; September 09, 2008 9:32 PM
suzihussein22 said...: aunt jean-Wasn't Celebrex a new drug? It made me sick. It didn't even have time to work on my liver. I was very upset with the dr. for giving me a scrip for something that didn't have a history. I don't go for the newest fad medicines. I won't even go for lasik surgery until I'm older and my retinas won't have time to tear. I'll stick with lutein for now.; September 09, 2008 9:34 PM
Beryl said...: I'm loving Rachel Maddow's new show. She talked about the biological weapons that the Bush Administration has ignored. While Republicans continued to foster fear for votes, we have become more and more vulnerable to attack.

Too bad the bombs that will strike our country if McCain is elected will also harm those who opposed him. Targeting Republicans only would give a new definition to "smart bombs".; September 09, 2008 9:36 PM
Independent Voter said...: AJ, the picture was taken this year. If you combine that with her addressing and praising the AIP (Alaska Independence Party), her husband belonging to the AIP at one point in time, and this picture addressing an audience in front of a flag with 49 stars could make one wonder if she truly has the United States interest at heart or ONLY that of Alaska.; September 09, 2008 9:38 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suz

I see I forgot my e shame on me LOL

Yes at the time it was fairly new and they were more comcerned about older folks taking it that had heart problems or family history ofheart problems. I didn't have that kind of history. AJ; September 09, 2008 9:39 PM
Aunt Jean said...: To everyone that posts

I just wanted to say thanks for letting me look thru your eyes as you see the world. I've gained a lot of insite to how different walks of life feels and like [I believe it was Suz. it makes you look at life alittle different. Even though yes we don't alway agree. AJ; September 09, 2008 9:46 PM
suzihussein22 said...: aunt jean-LOL!! :D And who cares what a tattoo likes like either in 30 years?; September 09, 2008 9:57 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suz

the funny thing about it even though I know that most of the older ones in the family will long be in a rocking chair I just can't see me in one [maybe in 40 years' I'll just be 95. LOL!!!My great aunts lived to their mid to upper 90's. My grandmother died at 90 but she had fallen in her kitchen and laid there all day and had a stroke trying to get up.She died 4 days later. AJ; September 09, 2008 10:02 PM
suzihussein22 said...: aunt jean-You're welcome and thank you to everybody, including the ones I'm not seeing post anymore-ed, or dem, and greywolf, who was facing some challenges himself.; September 09, 2008 10:03 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suz by the way I had 4 great aunts. AJ; September 09, 2008 10:04 PM
apissedant said...: I wish I had time to read everything. It appears I either have tons of time (over the summer), or no time (right now). I am glad to see that all of Palin's garbage is coming out. Even the WALL STREET JOURNAL is reporting it! AMAZING! The "bump" that they got in the polls will quickly start fading. I can't wait to watch it happen. =)

We're about to see a very good day not too far from now. JUST WAIT. =); September 09, 2008 10:06 PM
suzihussein22 said...: My family is long-lived also. It was hard to read about your grandmother. Something similar happened to my father-in-law recently. Michael had to clean up in that room afterwards. It was in Fl., but luckily there had actually been a cold spell.; September 09, 2008 10:07 PM
suzihussein22 said...: peevish-Awesome! Not about the time constraints, but about the info getting out about Palin. She has become a distraction to the issues, but the vetting needs to happen.; September 09, 2008 10:10 PM
jean said...: susi,
Celebrex can give you a type of confusion that is very scary.
I was with my neighbor, 60 , who had a reaction that he thought that he was lost and could not understand why there were so many bugs in the room. Ambulance etc. He is fine but does not take it anymore.
Hope all is well.
AJ, you are just cool.
Things are a bit busy. When a gall bladder acts up THAT HURTS.
Take care of yourself.
Hope you are out of the zone and not too much rain.
Indy, Glad things are good, considering. You have the ability to make things work and grow;)
I am sick about Palin, she is a total creep.
I keep posting to repubs, that I know who are good people on the cusp, the links to show what is really going on.
Nice to meet you mike-in-ga;)
jean; September 09, 2008 10:10 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: I too am appreciating the ability to "talk" with you all, this is truly an amazing thing.

We are all human beings. Most of us just want to be loved and appreciated; to have the basics of food, water, and shelter that is clean and safe; to live our lives untroubled by violence of any kind; and to be able to worship, each in our own way (although the atheists can sleep in if they want - VBG!!!). I am truly hoping that we can all work towards achieving this, not just for ourselves, but for one and all.; September 09, 2008 10:15 PM
suzihussein22 said...: jean-I'm glad I only took a few doses of Celebrex then. It was bad enough taking Neurontin for a few months before I could have back surgery. I knew it was going to mess with my short term memory, but the pain from just holding my arms up enough to drive for 15 min. was excrutiating. I would rather have a baby, I kid you not.; September 09, 2008 10:24 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Indy -

You should download the photo and save it before it is gone and send it to CNN, MSNBC, HuffPost, etc.

.; September 09, 2008 10:30 PM
Karen Anne said...: suzi,

I took Neurontin and it made my eyes roll around uncontrollably. Holy cow.

I wouldn't touch a new med now unless it had been in general use for quite awhile, and I'd looked it up on web, and even then I'd avoid it if possible.; September 09, 2008 10:37 PM
suzihussein22 said...: karen anne-Dang. That would've been freaky on top of everything else. I definitely go with a med I've heard of...if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If I have to, I'd make blackberry elixir for nausea, you know?; September 09, 2008 10:42 PM
suzihussein22 said...: It sounds like Palin has opened up the golden window of opportunity and the gloves are off, oink, oink-

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama told an audience Tuesday that GOP presidential nominee John McCain says he'll change Washington, but he's just like President Bush.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to an outbreak of laughter, shouts and raucous applause from his audience, clearly drawing a connection to Palin's joke even if it's not what Obama meant. "It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

McCain's campaign called the comments "offensive and disgraceful" and said Obama owes Palin an apology. Obama's campaign said he wasn't referring to Palin and said the GOP camp was engaging in a "pathetic attempt to play the gender card." Obama's camp also noted that McCain once used the same phrase to describe Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan.; September 09, 2008 10:49 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: The WHOLE quote:

Obama made the remarks at a Virginia campaign stop late Tuesday afternoon. “John McCain says he’s about change too, and so I guess his whole angle is, ‘Watch out George Bush – except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics – we’re really gonna shake things up in Washington,’” Obama said.

“That’s not change. That’s just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig. You know you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it’s still going to stink after eight years. We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”

.; September 09, 2008 10:54 PM
suzihussein22 said...: aunt jean and leah-

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_re_us/ike_texas

This is some evacuation info. I'm sure your area has already publicized their plans.; September 09, 2008 10:55 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: In Obama's quote he said NOTHING about Palin.

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And what McCain said....
In Iowa last October, McCain drew comparisons between Hillary Clinton's current healthcare plan and the one she championed in 1993: "I think they put some lipstick on the pig, but it's still a pig." He used roughly the same line in May, after effectively claiming the Republican nomination.; September 09, 2008 10:58 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: suzi-

I'm not going anywhere.

Last time when Rita was supposed to come to Houston I drove to Austin. It usually takes less than three hours to get there from my house but the drive took me 16 and 1/2 hours. I NEVER will do that again ;); September 09, 2008 11:02 PM
suzihussein22 said...: leah-That sounds even better.

McCain/Palin=lobbyists

McCain/Palin=earmarks

McCain/Palin=4 more years of Bush

McCain/Palin=pandering

McCain/Palin=fear-mongering

McCain/Palin=war

McCain/Palin=continued economic recession; September 09, 2008 11:03 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah,

We did better we went north exactly where the hurricane went it took us about 18 hours.Like you I plan on staying put. AJ; September 09, 2008 11:11 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah I fordot to tell you it's only about 68 miles from where we live that we went. It was more than a nightmare!!!!!! AJ; September 09, 2008 11:13 PM
suzihussein22 said...: leah and aunt jean-Wowzers...was that on the main highways?

I tried to make a polite comment on Faux. For the third time this year, my comment wasn't accepted. If they can't handle softspoken, how can they handle the truth? Actually, it's pretty obvious they've never been interested in the objective truth.; September 09, 2008 11:16 PM
Aunt Jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 09, 2008 11:19 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Dave said...
"marriage" is an establishment that came from the church.

Dave,

Marriage was taken over by the church. It is a custom that pre-dated the church.

Up until Christianity, marriage was a loose social contract. The Christians made it a 'holy sacrament'.

BTW - Did you know it was Emperor Augustus (reigned 44 BCE to 14 CE) who made divorce more difficult? He was an early proponent of what we would now call "family values". He penalized people who failed to marry, rewarded those who had large families, and made it more difficult to get divorced. Why? He was afraid that not enough Romans were being born, and that the Empire would eventually be in danger of being over-run by non-Romans.

Mike; September 09, 2008 11:22 PM
apissedant said...: Ok, I'm off to bed, but I did get to read SOME of your messages. Those in the path of a hurricane, I'm so far behind I didn't even realize there were still more coming. I wish you all the best of luck, and if I were more religious, you'd be in my prayers. Since I don't believe it is God's responsibility to give us what we want, you'll be in my thoughts.

As to the other pieces of information, thanks for keeping me updated again, and it is wonderful to see everyone communicating and getting along so well. I wish I had more time to talk to you guys, I miss hearing from all of you.; September 09, 2008 11:23 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suz

most of it was on Hwy.59N. They even had the South bound lane going north. They said that there was over a million+ people on the road the day we left.AJ; September 09, 2008 11:23 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Ap goodnight and thanks. AJ; September 09, 2008 11:24 PM
Kujo said...: I am one of the fortunate people who has prospered in the last 8 years, 16 years, 20 years ...

Because of this I have a chunck of money to invest in the market. These days the financial advisors are moving money 80% to 20% overseas.

This is why the republicans really don't care about the economy. They will drill till the well is dry and just start drilling somewhere else when they are done.

When the US is going under, you will see them living in Cabo, or Europe ...; September 09, 2008 11:27 PM
suzihussein22 said...: kujo-The most direct evidence I've seen is my parents, with bachelor's degrees, lose their earning power over time. I've also talked with a server who, with a master's, had her job downsized in another state. I hadn't thought of the scope you're talking about. It's like the definition of a parasite, it'll take from a host until it has to move on.

peevish and everybody-Have a good night.; September 09, 2008 11:39 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suz and everyone else

goodnight also talk to you tomorrow have a nice night. AJ; September 09, 2008 11:45 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: My trip was all on the big highway.

The first 3 miles took over two hours. Like Aunt Jean said it really was a nightmare down here.

Between Houston and Austin I saw probably about 100 cars left by the side of the road that had broken down or ran out of gas. There wasn't gas anywhere. Thank goodness I left with a full tank of gas and I even turned of the A/C otherwise I would have run out of gas too. It was VERY hot and after the storm on the news they said several people died in their cars from the heat. I can't remember the exact number of people put it was more than a handful.; September 09, 2008 11:47 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Jean - sorry it took so long to reply I was watching the dumbest comedy (The Comebacks) I've ever seen because my wife thought it was funny. I have been a regular viewer of DCW for many months but most times I just enjoyed watching everyone post. I posted a few times but usually spent most of my time in receive mode. I especially liked the coverage of the primaries. I found no site on the internet who had better delegate coverage.

I too find myself checking the DCW site many many times a day. Although there are a few battles once in awhile, overall it is much more interesting than sites like FOX, ABC, CNN, etc. Some of the bloggers on those sites are so extreme (in both directions) and in many cases rude, obnoxious and so gross that I don't enjoy going to them. I like a spirited debate sometimes - but I also want it to be civil.

Someday one of you will have to tell me how "Oreo" got his nickname.; September 10, 2008 12:04 AM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Finally! I've been waiting for this! Love this one -

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/a-piggish-debat.html

Sounds pretty scrappy! Never saw stuff like this during the Kerry campaign!

Sweet!; September 10, 2008 1:23 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: It's too bad everyone is going to bed. Just in:

Newsweek Bombshell: Palin & Family Warned of "Emotional Child Abuse" by Judge

by Steven R Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 08:47:29 PM PDT

Bombshell news in Palin's prior behavior in a matter involving emotional child abuse of children entangled in her sister's divorce from Officer Wooten, also knows as the Trooper in Troopergate.

Court documents show that Judge Suddock was disturbed by the alleged attacks by Palin and her family members on Wooten's behavior and character. "Disparaging will not be tolerated—it is a form of child abuse," the judge told a settlement hearing in October 2005, according to typed notes of the proceedings. The judge added: "Relatives cannot disparage either. If occurs the parent needs to set boundaries for their relatives."

"It is the mother's responsibility to set boundaries for her relatives and insure they respect them, and the disparagement by either parent, or their surrogates is emotional child abuse,"He added that: "If the court finds it is necessary due to disparagement in the Mat-Su Valley for the children's best interests, it will not hesitate to order custody to the father and a move into Anchorage."

The judge called Sarah Palin and her family's behavior a form of child abuse and almost awarded custody to Wooten.

There's more:; September 10, 2008 1:27 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: suzziehussein22

I love it. You know that Obama is on the right track when we read this stuff regarding lipstick on a pig:

McCain's campaign called the comments "offensive and disgraceful" and said Obama owes Palin an apology. Obama's campaign said he wasn't referring to Palin and said the GOP camp was engaging in a "pathetic attempt to play the gender card." Obama's camp also noted that McCain once used the same phrase to describe Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan.

Gets McCains camp on the defensive and gets Obamas comment and reason for the comment out there free of charge to the whole nation. Its a sound bite that sticks.; September 10, 2008 1:35 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: McCains latest ad, concerning education (teaching sex to kindergarten) is really going to back fire on them. I don't care how far down the scale you are as a voter, will automatically realize that this was total attmpt at a smear.

I bet they pull that ad.; September 10, 2008 1:39 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: I can see that I'm getting tired. Lots of errors in that last entry.

I love it when the Democratic Campaign gets a chance to call McCain "Perverse", which, on the basis of the educational add, he certainly is.

The Obama campaign is really getting into stride now.; September 10, 2008 1:44 AM
tmess2 said...: If the Dems are finally going to unleash the 527s, we need a couple of nice ads about "reformer" McCain nominating the protege of corrupt Ted Stevens for the VP slot.; September 10, 2008 1:51 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Sussiehussein22

I like your list of issues. The one that stands out in my mind is "McCain/Palin=war".

I've read, and heard on TV, that it has been embedded in the minds of most American presidents that, as a legacy, to be considered a great president in history, you have to have won a war.

I've often wondered if this was in the back of Bush's mind when the war against Iraq was started? I also wonder if it would have been the last war we would have been involved in had it not gotten bogged down in the counterinsergency? Or would there have been another altracation with Korea or Iran?; September 10, 2008 2:01 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: From Agence France Press (AFP):

Army suicide rate may hit new high

The US Army is on track to break last year's all-time record for suicides, a pace that would top the civilian suicide rate for the first time since the Vietnam war, army officials said Thursday.

Just another reminder of the Booooooooshed administration's legacy.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iP54uMG-_P3LaQck0PJFsIyYRcMQ

Mike; September 10, 2008 4:04 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: The story gets better...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/09/palin_camp_takes_umbrage_at_li.html

Excerpt:

Reporters quickly unearthed evidence that Obama had said the same thing about Iraq policy, pointing to a reference the Illinois senator made last year: "George Bush has given a mission to General Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig."

Later, it turned out that McCain himself used the phrase more than once, including last year, when he was talking about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's 1990s health care plan. He said last October, "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

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This is a losing battle for McCain. McCain has NO integrity or honor!!!

Obama-Biden '08; September 10, 2008 8:53 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Republicans and military men on John McCain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

.; September 10, 2008 9:39 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 10, 2008 9:41 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Flashback:

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." – John McCain criticizing Hillary Clinton's health care plan, October 11th, 2007

"You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." – Fred Thompson, January 15th, 2008

"We need forthright reports. We're not trying to sugarcoat things, or put lipstick on a pig, or anything like that." General Petraeus, Baghdad, 2007

""Don't put lipstick on a pig." - General Petraeus, 8/21/2008

Obama-Biden '08; September 10, 2008 9:52 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: heh, apparently my mom (a republican who favors Obama) told my sister that she thought Palin was okay.

sissy gave her an earful, apparently. one voter at a time!; September 10, 2008 10:11 AM
Beryl said...: www.obamataxcut.com

Figure out your tax cut under Obama.; September 10, 2008 11:45 AM
Independent Voter said...: Regarding the flag picture I posted yesterday. HERE is a link that goes to an album of photographs of from the event that took place. The photograph was taken during the "Governor's annual picnic".

This year, the Alaska Governor's annual picnic took place July 19, 2008, as it is has been noted HERE; September 10, 2008 12:03 PM
jean said...: Indy,
Are you good?
Checking in.
Been busy.
jean; September 10, 2008 12:05 PM
Independent Voter said...: Jean, ya I'm doing good. I'm just killing some time before class ;)

How about you? We sure do miss you when you aren't here :); September 10, 2008 12:16 PM
Independent Voter said...: Jean, how YOU doin? (In my horrible, but best Italian accent.); September 10, 2008 12:16 PM
jean said...: Indy,
Going a bit crazy with two teenagers. Hormones pretty much suck.
The husband, who I adore, thinks things are black and white in dealing with things. It is not,
darn hormones;)
Kids are the priority and boy do I miss talking with grown-ups LOL.
Palin is driving me crazy, I NEVER want to be associated with her because of gender or ANYTHING!
I am doing periodic adoptions of teenagers for 2-3 days for a break
;0
jean; September 10, 2008 12:26 PM
jean said...: Indy,
I need to go to the office.
To make things totally clear.

I find Palin as one of the most repulsive human beings for what she has done to her daughter and what she is going to put her through.
Yes, I am sensitive in respect to teenagers because I KNOW how fragile they are at this age.
I never claimed to "Know IT All"
but it does not take a brain surgeon that she is sacrificing her daughter for other objectives.
The thought of her in office just makes me sick.
If she gets in office maybe I can move where Ap is going.
Do you think Me and my family can be adopted?
Obviously I need to negotiate with Ap;)
jean; September 10, 2008 12:40 PM
Doc Pickles said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 10, 2008 1:27 PM
Doc Pickles said...: (reporting for formatting error)

A great article by Andrew Sullivan in the Atlantic on McCain & the bridge to nowhere

"McCain has demonstrated in the last two months that he does not have the character to be president of the United States. And that is why it is more important than ever to ensure that Barack Obama is the next president. The alternative is now unthinkable. And McCain - no one else - has proved it."

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18747118&postID=113263497611249560&pli=1; September 10, 2008 1:29 PM
Beryl said...: Jean,
ITA w/your assessment of Palin. She is a monster for revealing her daughter's condition for political purposes. She claimed it was to dispel a rumor about Trig. A genetic test could have done that quite nicely without involving her 17 year old.

I don't think can produce any genetic test so that is partially why she did it.

Either way, she is a monster!; September 10, 2008 2:10 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Tonight...

Keith Olbermann To Deliver Special Comment About Republican Exploitation Of 9/11

Excerpt:

Keith Olbermann will deliver a special comment about Republicans exploiting September 11th during Wednesday night's "Countdown," he announced Tuesday night.

"Tomorrow night (TONIGHT) here, my special comment on how people like John McCain and Rudy Giuliani have changed our solemn commemoration of 9/11 into the most cynical of political exploitations," he said.; September 10, 2008 3:26 PM
Karen Anne said...: I've been reading the NYTimes Caucus blog, and finally the light dawned today that it is a big waste of time.

They are falling right into the Republicans' trap of distractions so the issues don't get looked at.

I can't imagine my state going red, cross fingers, but my time will be better spent writing letters to the editor, just in case.; September 10, 2008 4:16 PM
Karen Anne said...: p.s. I'd make phone calls to other states, but if someone told me they were supporting Palin, my head would probably melt, so I don't think I'd be any good at that.; September 10, 2008 4:17 PM
Independent Voter said...: Tomorrow should be REALLY good at the "service forum". I really hope that those who interview both Obama and McCain gets on McDouchebag about his campaign's denigrating community organizers.; September 10, 2008 4:32 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Man-o-man Chris Matthews did a great job on the 'lipstick' issue on Hardball!!!

O and Joe '08; September 10, 2008 5:16 PM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, he just shoved it back in the guys face. This whole lipstick bull is stupid. Lets hope that people realize they don't even want to have a beer with either one of the two traitors on the Republican ticket.

Yep, I'm calling a spade a spade, they are both LIARS and TRAITORS.; September 10, 2008 5:29 PM
Independent Voter said...: WOW! Barbara Boxer did a great job too.; September 10, 2008 5:34 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Dave - Tell us how you really feel!:); September 10, 2008 5:36 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Ya'll MUST watch this!

.... And Pigs Fly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xbn_AXlaeY

I wish the news media would play that everyday on TV!; September 10, 2008 5:42 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Lots of animal references in this election...

Pitbull
Moose (burgers)
Polar Bears
Pig
Fish
Wolves
Cats (friend said Palin doesn't like them)
Bull*Shit (republican smears)
Dog (Obama girls get on after the election)
Lion (Ted Kennedy)
Bumble Bee (Hillary's yellow suit jacket)

That's all I can think of right now.; September 10, 2008 5:50 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: McCain Camp: Fish Wrapped In Paper Is Now Sexist, Too

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/mccain-camp-fish-wrapped_n_125450.html

.; September 10, 2008 5:55 PM
Independent Voter said...: Actually MinGA, I was being nice. ;); September 10, 2008 5:57 PM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, IF Obama were gay, I would probably agree, but since Obama is NOT gay, I would have to say the sexism charge over the "fish" metaphor is stupid.

I personally don't refer to women as fish, but there are many within the gay community who do (but they are usually referring to lesbians.); September 10, 2008 6:00 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: A couple talking heads were saying something about McCain being the 'old fish' ... I think the whole thing all day long has been ridiculous and I am sure everyone over at the McCain camp is having a huge laugh!; September 10, 2008 6:06 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 10, 2008 6:34 PM
Beryl said...: For the Women!

http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/; September 10, 2008 6:36 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah/Dave - This is the normal mode of campaigning for the Republicans. I've said many times that Senator Obama will have a very hard time keeping focus on issues. We are now 55 days away from the election and for the past 10 days this has been the Republican strategy. This is the only way they can win. They would be very happy to do it all the way to November 4, 2008. I know you feel we must fight back - but the fight has to be on the issues (economy, health care, taxes, social security, CHANGE). The Democrats can't beat the Republicans by using the Swift Boat Strategy. The damn Republicans are experts at this approach. It goes against Senator Obama's beliefs - he has not shown this style of campaigning and I personally don't want him to start now. If someone has to do this - let the 527s handle this B.S. Where are the Democratic 527s?? Just my opinion!; September 10, 2008 6:47 PM
Independent Voter said...: Bob in Vancouver and Mike in GA, it looks like the Obama campaign IS actually coming out swinging, but using policy to do it.

Check out THIS LINK. (I know it's HuffPo, but it has a video about what transpired on one of the MSNBC interviews.; September 10, 2008 7:38 PM
Independent Voter said...: Leah, have you visited the puma pac lately? They sure do have to BEG a lot to get funding don't they. They are having a hard time raising a measly $25,000, yet they claimed to be so far ahead by raising $10 mill for Clinton. HA! How funny is that? They have lost nearly all of THEIR base. They went from well over 1000 comments per post down to about 300 comments per post and the majority of those are people making multiple posts and responding to other people. I have the feeling their membership has probably dwindled to a couple thousand, IF they are LUCKY.; September 10, 2008 7:50 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Indy-

Yep, I've been over to PUMA the past few days. I actually was able to post a couple of neutral comments and then I was taken off of moderation... then I posted a couple 'good' comments directly to Murphy telling her that I thought the website wasn't balanced since there were only anti-Obama comment and no anti-McCain, noMcCain, McPuppet, etc. comments and my comment got posted and then when I went back this morning my log-in was no longer valid LOL :)

The photos that they have posted over there in the past 48 hours have gotten pretty disgusting.

I'm done going over there to snoop because their number have dwindled so much that the PUMAs really are not an issue anymore :); September 10, 2008 8:27 PM
Karen Anne said...: Fish. Okay, I could have lived the rest of my life happily not knowing that...

AJ, any news from your doc?; September 10, 2008 8:27 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: HAHAHAHAHAHA!

These Obama * I'm Sorry * cards are hilarious!

http://www.236.com/news/2008/09/10/236_agrees_obama_it_is_time_fo_8850.php

.; September 10, 2008 8:32 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: OMG, Leah, those were funny!

the internet is making this election more than a little different, no?; September 10, 2008 8:54 PM
jean said...: mike-in-ga
How the heck are ya;)
I am infuriated about Palin and her political ways of using her daughter, son, and lying 24/7.
Excuse me, both sons of which one is a disabled baby.
I feel it is time to stop holding the punches and calling it as it IS.
If I remember the last few elections the Dems lost.
It is time to let loose and take care of business.
The thought of McCain/Palin representing the US would be one of the biggest embarrassments I can think of, besides Bush,well it actually could get worse with McCain/Palin.
I guess I am in a fighting mood;)
jean; September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 10, 2008 9:10 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: Question:

how long can Sarah Palin play the role of "pit bull with lipstick" and "barracuda"

AND

be "too delicate for those harsh reporters"

???? because I'm having a very hard time holding those too concepts in my head at the same time.; September 10, 2008 9:16 PM
Kujo said...: Bridge to nowhere.....

Sorry for bringing this issue up again, but it has not been properly explained.

Palin, as we all know by now, campained for the bridge to nowhere.

When she became Gov. She "bravely" went against the bridge.... but kept the money and said we will build the bridge with our own money.

Ha?

You might be able to play this shell game on McCain but not on the rest of us.

She just moved the States money she was spending on roads and moved it to the bridge. Then she moved the 300 million for the bridge to the states accounts for roads.

I.E. she did not stop using federal funds for the bridge.

She did delay the bridge building to make sure people would not notice, but in the mean time WORK IS CONINUING ON THE ROAD'S LEADING UP TO THE BRIDGE.

Question for John McCain. Why did you let Palin keep the 300 million for the bridge if it was a waste of our money to give it to them in the first place?; September 10, 2008 9:17 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: ps, whatsis name (Charlie Gibson?) is NOT a "harsh reporter". I mean, when does she face down a REAL reporter? one who will ask her REAL questions??

just wondering.; September 10, 2008 9:18 PM
Independent Voter said...: Vicki, that is a very good question. My guess is NEVER! Especially since she has a plane full of reporters, but nothing is "on the record".; September 10, 2008 9:21 PM
Independent Voter said...: I wonder if Gibson will ask her, "so what is it that a VP does all day?"; September 10, 2008 9:22 PM
Kujo said...: I guess it is just me in that I don't watch too much TV, but I don't see any Obama adds here in Indiana. I would expect to see something here.

They need more of those McCain/Palin Maveric.... right commercials

about 5 - 10 of these things playing day after day.; September 10, 2008 9:36 PM
Kujo said...: If they made a Palin doll that talked when you pulled the string, I don't think it would go over that well.

She only has 1 message and thats a big lie to boot. You would kind of get sick of it after a while.

That would be interesting idea though. Lets create an Obama doll that talks of his policy he would bring to washington. People would buy the doll so it would not cost to product (maybe be able to raise money for the cause too.) Then everyone would get this novel idea and put it on there desk.; September 10, 2008 9:39 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Hi Karen Anne and of course everyone else.

I went to the doc. today and he has ordered an ultrasound on the 20th. He ask me why didn't I have it taken out years ago when I first started having trouble with it.

I said Doc. I guess I didn't because I'm kinda fond of my parts LOL. He started laughing. AJ; September 10, 2008 9:45 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Kujo Palins doll would say: What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull libstick. Everytime I hear that I want to scream!!!!!; September 10, 2008 9:49 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: AJ, of course you are kinda attached to it! I said the same thing after my breast biopsy years ago.

(had a celebration when it came back negative, too!); September 10, 2008 9:55 PM
Kujo said...: I loved the "And Pigs Fly" commercial on You Tube.

This should be released as a real commercial as is.

For those who did not see the previous link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xbn_AXlaeY; September 10, 2008 10:04 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Vic

years ago I had a lump in my right breast and had it removed it was neg. too and believe me I was so glad because I had it for 6 years before I had it removed I was just to scared to have it removed stupid right! AJ; September 10, 2008 10:06 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

is hurricane Ike starting to make you nervous? It is me! Oh by the way love the link with the pigs. LOL AJ; September 10, 2008 10:16 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Lincoln Chafee Refers to Sarah Palin as a "Cocky Whacko"

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/10/lincoln_chafee_refers_to_sarah_1/

.; September 10, 2008 10:16 PM
Independent Voter said...: Sorry KA. I wasn't meaning to offend :)

AJ, I'm glad to hear that you are taking care of it now. As far as you waiting so long, no good! This is the second time you have waited (lump in your breast and then your gall bladder). Both of those are things that could have claimed your life. Not good to put those types of things off. I understand the fear factor, but at some point you have to get beyond fear and get things taken care of.

Like I said, I'm glad to hear that you are taking care of things now, but your health is NEVER anything to fool around with. I know the state of our healthcare system doesn't always make it easy, but still......; September 10, 2008 10:17 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave

I get the message and Dave thanks for caring!!! AJ; September 10, 2008 10:23 PM
Karen Anne said...: Hi, iv,

You are right, of course, but the thing is when one gets older, doctors start ordering tests every time you look crosseyed for a minute.

Every test has the stress of worry before it, and after it waiting for the results. After awhile, you start thinking, I would be better off and much happier living in the woods and never seeing a doctor again in my whole life. And I would probably live longer just from less stress :-)

Most doctors really tend to overdo it, I think, whether from fear of being sued or what, I dunno.; September 10, 2008 10:28 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Karen Anne

I know what you mean!

About living in the woods that sounds like a great idea. When I was living in Tenn. I lived on a farm surrounded by woods does that count.. And Yes for quite awhile I was happy! But like everything else things have to end. AJ; September 10, 2008 10:40 PM
jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 10, 2008 10:40 PM
Independent Voter said...: KA, I don't think it's just when you get older nowadays. I think they want to run tests on anyone and everyone, regardless.

Last year I went in with extreme pains in my abdomen (it turned out to be a huge ulcer) but they did EVERYTHING! I would say 10 viles of blood, a throat culture, nearly every possible test you can think of (well everything except a colonoscopy.....lol).

AJ, you're welcome! I'm glad I got my point across.....don't MAKE me lecture you again.....LOL; September 10, 2008 10:41 PM
Independent Voter said...: I just saw the radar (on MSNBC) and the way it looked was that it was headed somewhere between NO and Galveston.....I know this morning on a projection model they were saying somewhere between Galveston and Corpus Christi.

I'm not an expert by any means, perhaps they have a better idea of the weather pattern, but from what I saw it looked like it was headed closer toward Louisiana as opposed to Texas. Just my opinion.; September 10, 2008 10:44 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: I've read this blog for a very long time. I probably won't be a regular blogger, but I did see something on CNN AC 360 tonight that I thought was rather amusing. Did anyone see the green outfit Cindy McCain was wearing? I'm not talking about the color. I'm talking about the amount of exposed cleavage. Cindy McCain might think she has a little competition with Sarah Palin around her husband all the time. Just a little thought.; September 10, 2008 10:52 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 10, 2008 10:54 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Hey Dave
I can prep you for a colonoscopy. LOL. The last person I prep for one was a preacher. After that every time he seen me he would look the other way and turn red. {poor thing] LOL LOL !!! AJ; September 10, 2008 10:57 PM
Independent Voter said...: Welcome Ruby, I noticed that too, but I didn't say anything about it, as I didn't want to come across with the label of being sexist.

This despite that two weeks ago I did say that Cindy was going to have to keep an eye on John.; September 10, 2008 10:58 PM
Independent Voter said...: LMAO AJ. That is too funny! You should joke with him when you see him. Just go up and say something to the effect of "how's your better side doing?"; September 10, 2008 11:01 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Ruby in KA.

welcome! Aunt Jean; September 10, 2008 11:03 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave

you're so funny. I get a good laugh on here every night. But I also have tears but thats ok it's not tears of sadness it's tears of joy to know that there are people out there that really care!!!!. AJ; September 10, 2008 11:05 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave
one more thing how do you know he had a better side. LMAO!!!!! AJ; September 10, 2008 11:07 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Ruby in Kansas -

I noticed it also. It was hard not to notice it -- and I'm a WOMAN.

There might be a bit of envy going on in the McCain camp now that Palin is getting all the attention ;); September 10, 2008 11:11 PM
Aunt Jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 10, 2008 11:18 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

Cindy looks like the type besides she stole McLame from another woman but I'm sure that she doesn't want the same thing happen to her. AJ; September 10, 2008 11:21 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Aunt Jean-

I am not going to let the hurricane worry me this time. You're more north than I am so it will get me before it gets you! :); September 10, 2008 11:22 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Judge warned Palin in 2005 to back off brother-in-law's job

An Alaska judge warned Gov. Sarah Palin's family against trying to get her then-brother-in-law fired, according to court records.

That warning came long before the controversy over her dismissal of the brother-in-law's boss, the state's public safety commissioner, records show.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/palin.investigation/index.html; September 10, 2008 11:24 PM
Independent Voter said...: LOL AJ, Good guess? I don't know.

AJ, I don't necessarily refer to Cindy as a husband thief. Granted she may have very well known that he was married, and I'm not saying she wasn't at fault, but I do place MUCH more blame on HIM. It shows me that he is mentally WEAK and insecure with himself.

And although that may be going through Cindy's mind, I'm sure it is simply insecurity on her part because she knows that he was capable of it at least once, which may lead her to believe that he is capable of doing it to her.

Couple that with the rumors that are out there that Sarah possibly had an affair with her husband's former business partner. AGAIN that is RUMOR. And if the rumor is out there, Cindy may be believing it. I'm not at this point. If there is evidence in the divorce records then I'm sure it will come out soon.; September 10, 2008 11:31 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Thank you all for welcoming me to your blog. I came across this blog when I was looking for a site that kept track of the delegate and superdelegate count during the primaries. This is my first time becoming involved in politics. The first time I voted was 4 years ago, and I regrettably voted for Bush out of political ignorance. I promised I would never do that again. So, I started following the candidates (Democrats and Republicans) any way I could (internet, T.V., etc.) to educate myself on their positions. Well, my self taught education has led me to fully support Barack Obama. With all the deception, half-truths and out right lies coming out of the McPalin campaign, how could anyone in their right mind want to vote for such a monstrosity of a ticket?? I just don't understand it. Bush has already put America in a hole, and now the McPalin duo wants to dig the hole deeper, with the intention of laughing all the way to the White House. NOT ON MY WATCH! NOT NOW! NOT EVER! Okay, I feel better now (smile).; September 10, 2008 11:37 PM
Independent Voter said...: Ruby, well that is one helluva second post. Great job!; September 10, 2008 11:39 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: You go Ruby!!!

It feels good to get involved and get educated. It helps me, that's for sure!; September 10, 2008 11:39 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Re: lots of tests.

When I was 31, I had sudden and extreme pain in my lower right abdomen - severe enough to wake me from sleep - and then it got much worse. I thought it was appendicitis, and went to the closest emergency room. After a series of tests, it was determined that I had a kidney stone (which I passed a few hours later).

When I was 41 and at work one day, I had sudden and severe pain in my lower right abdomen. I thought it was a kidney stone (pain was similar and in the same area), so I went home instead of to a doctor or emergency room. The next morning, I was woken by SEVERE pain, so went to the emergency room, doubled over in pain. They tested white cell count, took temperature, took blood for several other tests, and took X-rays. None of the blood tests seemed to show anything, but there was a 'shadow' on the X-rays that seemed to indicate a kidney stone. Eventually I was released, went home and went to sleep.

The next morning, I was woken by EXTREME pain, and went back to the emergency room. More tests, more X-rays, and finally it was determined that I had appendicitis. The surgeon later told me she was glad there was a plastic face guard in front of her face, as when she cut through the peritoneum, the infectious material squirted out like a fire hose. She also told me I was 2-6 hours from peritonitis (a usually fatal infection of the peritoneum). In her opinion, the appendix had burst 12-24 hours before surgery, and probably that morning when I woke in extreme pain.

The surgeon originally planned on an incision of about 1-1/2 to 2 inches, but had to make an incision of about 10 inches in order to clean out all the infectious material.

More than 1-1/2 hours later, I was transferred to ICU, then to a hospital room after 12 hours in the ICU. I was on 4 intravenous antibiotics for a week, had an oxygen tube down my throat (to help prevent pneumonia) for five days, and had pain killer dripped into the IV - try sitting up without using your abdominal muscles; you can't do it. About 36 hours later, I was ORDERED to walk to the end of the hall to the sun room - a distance of several hundred feet. The pain was not at all fun.

More than eight days later, I was released from the hospital to continue recuperating at home.

Exactly six weeks after I left work feeling ill, I was able to return to my desk, but only for 1/2 days for three additional weeks.

It was later determined that the 'shadow' on the original X-rays was most likely because my appendix had elongated and had some material that caused the 'shadow'. It also had become twisted and was touching a ureter, thus making it appear that the pain was the result of a kidney stone.

AND, it turned out some of the people doing the tests presumed that at 41 years old, I was too old to have appendicitis. Add in that I had had a kidney stone 10 years earlier, and kidney stones can, and do, repeat. This clouded their analysis of what the tests were showing. This also caused others to not conduct certain other tests that may have shown I had appendicitis rather than a kidney stone.

I will NEVER complain about a doctor ordering more tests if I have a suspected medical problem.

Mike; September 10, 2008 11:39 PM
Kujo said...: We should all try to do the tell 2 friends approach in drumming up support and getting them to sign on to this sight. But at this stage of the game, maybe we better get 10 friends... by tommorow and so on and so on.....; September 10, 2008 11:51 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Mike In Maryland

they should have ordered more test to be on the safe side because it can be life threating. They were very lax in their thinking! I'm glad it came out alright! AJ; September 10, 2008 11:51 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Okay, so Palin landed in Alaska and then gave a short rally.

She said 'Alaska' about 20 times.

She was praising McCain a lot and talking about OIL quite a bit.

She READ FROM A TELEPROMPTER.

She had a big crowd there but they had to yell U.S.A. because there was some protesters there apparently.

She can't pronounce regimes .. she said it like " RE JEANS"

I'm not impressed but there are a lot of Palin kool-aid drinkers out there.

Now I can see how Hilter had such crowds of people supporting him.

I can't believe that America is going goo-goo over her and they don't know a damn thing about her and she still has not answered any questions from real reporters or voters.; September 11, 2008 12:00 AM
Independent Voter said...: Mike, I do NOT envy you one bit, but I am definitely happy hear that everything worked out in the end. And I totally agree with you on the whole letting them run the tests.; September 11, 2008 12:01 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Hahahaha!

Rerun of Larry King is on...

Larry said regarding the 'pig with lipstick' issue .. something like 'is it an issue or just HOGWASH'

I wish Obama would have used the word "HOGWASH" earlier today!! LOL.; September 11, 2008 12:02 AM
Independent Voter said...: OH MY!

Hmmmmm, what was that remark about earmarks that John McCain said regarding studying the DNA of bears?

Well apparently one of the earmarks that Palin sought was to study the mating habits of crabs along with the studying the DNA of Harbor Seals.; September 11, 2008 12:06 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Mike In Maryland

In 1978/79 I had major surgery. They told me that they would be able to do it in about 3 hours. Well it took 6 1/2 hrs. I woke up in or. After they brought me back to the room I was telling my mother about me having a dream that I woke up in or and that is when I found out it was a dream.

At the time my stomach was so flat my hip bones stuck out after surgery I looked like I was going to have a baby in a couple of months. They got me out of bed 24 hrs. later. Then I had to go back 10 months later and had the rest repaired that took 4 more hours.

What was bad about it is I had no outside stitches it was 1 long stitch and it got to itching a day or two later and I starting pulling at this piece because I just thought it was trash. Not knowing that it was holding my belly together. They cut me from my belly button down to my pelvic. AJ; September 11, 2008 12:08 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

I was telling my brother in law that she was going to talk to the reporters in Wasilla that way she can pay people to wave to her and shout.[HI SARAH]like she's so good [yea right]. I wonder how much it's going to cost her? AJ; September 11, 2008 12:14 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here's a comment from over on HuffPost that is as good as the pig with lipstick...

Poor John McCain.
He and his people just don't get it

You can take a donkey ...
Dress it up in Topcoat and Tails ...
Teach it the Texas-Two-Step ...

But at the end of the day ...

He's still a Jack-Ass
----

Perfect quote to describe John McCain! ;); September 11, 2008 12:27 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: Aunt Jean said...
they should have ordered more test to be on the safe side because it can be life threating.

AJ,

Several doctors reviewed the X-rays and the tests. Because of the kidney stone I had had 10 years earlier, the 'shadow' on the X-rays, lack of elevated white cell count, lack of fever, location of pain, and other tests, and my age of 41, the conclusion was that I had a kidney stone. Everything pointed to a kidney stone, nothing pointed to appendicitis. Also, as long as I didn't move much, the pain would subside, another characteristic of kidney stones.

It was only when I returned the next morning, and new X-rays didn't show a 'shadow', new tests showed an elevated white cell count, and new tests showed I had an elevated temperature, that they determined it might be appendicitis. More tests were then ordered that confirmed the diagnosis.

There also was a problem getting me to surgery - it was mid-afternoon when the appendicitis was firmly diagnosed, but all the operating theaters were in use at that time. It was more than five hours before they could get me into one for the operation.

I discussed all the above with the surgeon later. She told me it would have been extremely difficult to diagnose the appendicitis with all the test results as they were (pain with no elevated white cell count; no tumescence of the abdomen; lack of fever; the 'shadow' on the X-ray) even if I had had no history of kidney stones. Even so, the hospital was doing a review of certain procedures, and hopefully my experience would not be repeated.

All in all, I feel fortunate to have lived through the ordeal. But in no way do I blame the hospital for not getting the diagnosis correct that first day, as the staff did their jobs to the best of their ability and training.

Mike; September 11, 2008 12:27 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

I do like the Jackass thing and yes that's exactly what McLame is! AJ.

Mike In Maryland

I guess I read the post wrong or something but glad everything turned out alright! AJ; September 11, 2008 12:33 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: Seems as if the Repigs of Mississippi have won at least a temporary victory in the placement of the Musgrove-Wicker line on the November ballot:

From the Biloxi Sun Herald:

Staffers for the Mississippi secretary of state's office were working late Wednesday to distribute a sample ballot to local election officials . . . The scramble to distribute the ballot came shortly after three Mississippi Supreme Court justices filed papers setting aside an order by a lower-court judge that had temporarily blocked the release of [the] disputed sample ballot.

http://www.sunherald.com/218/story/807224.html

Hopefully it's only a temporary victory, not a permanent one.

Mike; September 11, 2008 12:45 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Well folks I'm heading for bed goodnight to all pleasant dreams of Obama/Biden AJ; September 11, 2008 12:46 AM
tmess2 said...: While I prefer not picking on poor little Cindy, she needs to remember the old saying. If he will cheat on his current wife with you, he will cheat on you.; September 11, 2008 12:51 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Leah Texas4Obama:

"I can't believe that America is going goo-goo over her and they don't know a damn thing about her and she still has not answered any questions from real reporters or voters." "Now I can see how Hilter had such crowds of people supporting him."

I would never equate Bush to Hitler by any means but your comment about Americans going goo-goo (jumping on the band wagon) is exactly why Bush got elected, not once but twice.

I have heard people say, they like her and will vote for her and they don't care if she lies, swindles the state budget, intimidates and fires employees, bans books or whatever. Evangelists, Christian Fundamentalists, are going to vote for McCain because, one of theirs, Palin is on the ballot.

Without Palin, McCain can not win this election. I still say it is very important to go after Palin even though she's not the head of the ticket.; September 11, 2008 12:56 AM
Independent Voter said...: G'night AJ.

tmess - I totally agree with that.; September 11, 2008 12:56 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: Everyone: I like this:

A pollster whose mathematical model has correctly predicted every winner of the White House popular vote since 1988 is banking on a decisive victory for Democrat Barack Obama in November.

Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz said Wednesday that according to his "time for change" model, Obama would secure 54.3 percent of the popular vote against 45.7 percent for Republican John McCain.

That margin would virtually guarantee a crushing victory for the Democrat in the state-by-state electoral college that actually selects the next president, Abramowitz said.; September 11, 2008 1:03 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: In addition to the Musgrove-Wicker issue, it looks like the State Board of Elections in Mississippi may be facing another legal challenge (and the Louisiana Secretary of State on the same type of issue):

From Ballot Access News:

In Mississippi, the State Board of Elections met on September 9 and disallowed the Natural Law Party’s filing of Brian Moore for president, because certain papers had not been submitted until 5:10 p.m. The office had previously said the true deadline was midnight, and that there was no cause for concern.

and

Louisiana’s filing deadline for presidential candidates and candidates for presidential elector to file was September 2. However, because of severe flooding in Baton Rouge, and power outages, the office had seemed to indicate that the deadline would be extended. However, on September 9, the Secretary of State indicated he would not accept late filings.

Do we see a pattern here?

Both states' election officials are controlled by Repigs. Both states' election officials are making it difficult for people to get on the ballot, but ONLY those who threaten to take votes from McLame(brain).

And some might wonder why I see a pattern.

http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/09/last-minute-ballot-access-woes-for-presidential-candidates-in-louisiana-mississippi/

Mike; September 11, 2008 1:06 AM
Bob in Vancouver said...: For fun take a quick look at this picture

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SMgc5QhS5VI/AAAAAAAAB2M/5RLswJea9MQ/s1600-h/mccainpig.jpg; September 11, 2008 1:12 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Tonight when I was watching Palin's rally in Alaska there was a few seconds in her speech that really summed up what it is about her that is 'distasteful'....

She was up on the podium and she said a snide remark regarding how in Alaska they call snow-machines snow-machines and not snow-mobiles like in the rest of the United States. In that one sentence you could hear in her voice and see in her face that she really thinks that she and the people in Alaska are different and BETTER than the rest of us.

Anyway that was my impression.

Here is a link to a very short part of her rally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dMPG8TUZHw

the snow-mobile comment starts at 3:48

Also, I think she said a few catty things during the 'whole' speech such as regarding Alaska: "I knew that the coldest state would give us the warmest welcome".

I thought during her convention speech she was a very insulting person.. but now I see her as being VERY CATTY and PETTY!; September 11, 2008 1:32 AM
Independent Voter said...: Un-F'IN-real! I'm watching the replay of Bill O'Really. And evidently Greta Van Susteren (sp?) was at Palin's church.

O'Really said he doesn't allow ANYONE'S religion or family be smeared. What a bunch of CRAP he's spewing. He looped Wright for how many weeks just a few months ago smearing his religion, his pastor, and him? How many times did Faux News refer to the Michelle and Barack fist bump as a "terrorist fist jab"?

What a F'IN joke O'Really is.; September 11, 2008 1:41 AM
Independent Voter said...: Leah - she brings a new meaning to the title "Ice Queen".; September 11, 2008 1:42 AM
Beryl said...: Can you imagine working for that woman? Lawd, lawd! I'd do exactly as that librarian did -- quit.

She'd need you to constantly suck up to her. She couldn't stand anyone to contradict her. She is nothing like Obama who deliberately picked a sparring partner for his VP.; September 11, 2008 1:43 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I don't usually watch individual people's rants .. BUT this is a VERY GOOD RANT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1HACgIOOfE

Good one, huh?; September 11, 2008 1:48 AM
Kujo said...: JUST IN,

After much research by an independent group, there is now substantial evidence that something will be changed if McCain gets elected:

Roe vs Wade

This independent group has concluded its investigation saying this is the only thing that will change.; September 11, 2008 1:50 AM
Beryl said...: http://abcnews.go.com/politics/MatchoMatic/fullpage?id=5542139; September 11, 2008 1:52 AM
Independent Voter said...: Beryl, thanks! I got them ALL right!; September 11, 2008 2:20 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I missed three. I think they had one backwards... the one on gay unions. It was McCain that said leave it to the states and Obama has said that people should be able to enter into contracts, etc... but on the quiz it was backwards I believe.; September 11, 2008 2:28 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: okay, gotta fly out the door here in 30 minutes or so, and I'm neither breakfasted or dressed, but!

I wanted to say that in the course of my business travels, I've been to Alaska (several cities), multiple times.

and yes, in general, it is a prevailing concept that "they" are better than "us". not necessarily ALL Alaskans, but the ones I met definitely thought that us "lower 48-ers" were stupid and possibly demented.

they omit Hawaii from this judgement, for some reason ...; September 11, 2008 10:04 AM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Okay, check this out.

Why is it when........

Senator Obama says "Lipstick on a pig"; he’s attacking Palin.
McCain says "Lipstick on a pig"; it’s a flat joke.

Senator Obama says, sweetie; he’s being sexist.
McCain says sweetie; it’s a compliment.

Senator Obama calls the media out; he’s complaining.
McCain calls the media out; they change the topic.

Senator Obama doesn’t hit back like the media and some DEMs want him to; he’s not tough enough.
McCain resorts to swift vote tactics; he’s doing a fantastic job beating Obama.

Senator Obama DOES hit back like the media and some DEMs want him to; he's lost a day or two on the topics that matter to the American people.
McCain just hits for no logical or sane reason; he's a clever politician.

Senator Obama wants to stay on topic/issues; he’s losing the fight.
McCain doesn’t discuss any topics but slams Obama with lies; that’s how Republicans win.

Senator Obama voted against the war and didn’t support the surge; there goes his lack of judgment.
McCain voted for the war and doesn’t support our VETs; he’s the most popular POW in America .

Senator Obama gave up Wall Street pay to be a Community Organizer; he doesn’t put his country first.
McCain has been in Washington for 30 years and hasn’t changed anything; he’s a maverick.

Senator Obama was raised by a single Mom and his grandparents, sometimes on welfare; he’s an elitist.
McCain is married to a multi-billionaire; he shares blue collar worker values.

Senator Obama supports women’s rights; he's down in the polls.
McCain doesn’t support ANY women’s rights; they are flocking to him in the polls.

Alright, you guys. Please explain to me what's REALLY going on?; September 11, 2008 11:26 AM
Judy Bienvenu said...: Ruby, It's the elite media. They got their hands slapped by the McCain campaign too many times to actually call the McCain camp out on anything substansive.; September 11, 2008 12:12 PM
jean said...: OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008; September 11, 2008 12:18 PM
Judy Bienvenu said...: That's not change, it's OBVIOUSLY more of the same:

Mr. McCain’s team has issued a partywide, all-hands-on-deck. It has hired several veterans from President Bush’s campaigns, making them part of a team dedicated to defending Ms. Palin from unsubstantiated Internet rumors, Democratic attacks and potentially damaging news reports about her record produced by the investigative journalists now in Alaska.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/us/politics/11palin.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref=slogin; September 11, 2008 12:22 PM
Karen Anne said...: The guy who sent his distribution list the holiday with McCain hair-raiser got an okay from the author to release her name.

She's Anasuya Dubey, (an American citizen), daughter of a previous Indian Consul General of San Francisco. She has a PhD in Clinical Psychology; September 11, 2008 1:21 PM
Doc Pickles said...: Don't forget about George Bush! Talking point number one: More talk about George Bush!

The way he's been talking lately you'd think McCain is running against George Bush. And he is.

Eight years of hell under George Bush is Obama's true opponent in this election and these two Republican clowns are just cutouts standing in for George Bush.; September 11, 2008 1:46 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: For all the people that have been a little worried lately here is something to cheer you up!

12 Reasons Why Obama-Biden Will Win

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/12-reasons-why-obama-bide_b_125645.html

Obama-Biden '08; September 11, 2008 2:07 PM
Beryl said...: Saw this on another blog:

"Bill and Barack are having lunch in New York. They just showed them talking to the media together. They looked good and happy together!!

Bill Clinton predicts that Barack Obama will win and win handely. And Barack said about Bill there is no one smarter in politics.

I think there was a turning point at the Convention for the Clintons and Obama. They are now going to fight for the American people together."

Whoo Hoo! The B&B team will kick some Repug butt!!; September 11, 2008 2:30 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Yippeee!!!

The Obama surrogates are getting tough!

On MSNBC an Obama surrogate just pounded a McCain guy telling him that McCain's sex education ad is A LIE (several times) and he kept saying SHAME ON YOU !!!

It's gonna be a FIGHT to the finish in November!; September 11, 2008 2:59 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah/Aunt Jean - so are you still planning on staying in your homes? I don't envy either of you. This thing will undoubtedly be at least a Category 3, but it is so large that it could cover the entire area between Galveston and Houston with the later on the east side. I sure hope you guys have a solid home with a waterproof basement because the waves are up to 21' already and south of Lousiana is 30+ feet with a storm surge of 17+ feet. This is not something to blow off. I went through 4 of these the first year in Florida and I never want to do it again. All I can wish you is God Speed. Keep your head down!; September 11, 2008 3:38 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: McCain criticized Wasilla earmarks in 2001

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/palin.earmarks/index.html

That should make a good AD for the Obama team!; September 11, 2008 3:48 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah/Aunt Jean - this might be good news - the pressure went from 944mb to 952b which means it might be weakening some but they still have an official forecast for a major hurricane (Cat 3). They are updating each time a flight returns data from the eye. They are flying many more flights now.; September 11, 2008 3:54 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Mike-in-GA

I am on the Northwest side of downtown Houston. The Galveston coast is around 65 to 70 miles from my house - I don't have the same fear of danger as I did a couple of years ago when we were waiting for hurricane Rita that came shortly after Katrina in New Orleans.

By the way - the one thing that houses in Texas don't have are basements. There are a few basements in the bigger buildings in the downtown area but home here are mostly built on concrete slabs. There are some homes built up off of the ground but not that many and even those don't have basements.

I grew up in Illinois and everyone had basements, so to me the houses down here took some getting used to when I first moved down here some 30 years ago.; September 11, 2008 4:01 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: WARNING - THIS is GROSS!

Drill Baby Drill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWuuXpeqNNw&eurl=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/drill-baby-drill-re-imagi_n_125734.html

Warning - this is gross!; September 11, 2008 4:34 PM
Doc Pickles said...: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080929/berman_ames

The McCain-Follieri Love Boat

Happy 70th birthday to John McCain! Here's John McCain and Rick Davis rolling with an A-List con artist posing as the CEO of the Vatican.

What a photo! Even on a multimillion dollar yacht in Montenegro John McCain comes off like a drunk at the Legion hall.

http://www.thenation.com/images/mccain.jpg; September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah/Aunt Jean - latest update within the last 5 mins is that the track has shifted directly over Houston Metro area and specifically through the bay. Ike is now 700 miles wide with Tropical Storm winds and hurricane force winds expanding out 200 miles from the center of the storm and expected to make landfall at high tide. Hurricane Zone Coastal, Zone A and Zone B need to evacuate due to the projected intensity (category) of the storm which is currently Category 3. Pressure has started to drop again. That's the latest.; September 11, 2008 5:14 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 11, 2008 5:17 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah/Aunt Jean - I know I sound like I am preaching at you all - but I'm only raising the concern because I have seen the eye of 3 hurricanes go directly through where I lived in the past. The worst part was no power or utilities for almost 3 weeks. I will shut up now:). Good Luck!; September 11, 2008 5:25 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Mike-in-GA

Thank you for your concern.

I'm all stocked up on supplies here and of course I am hoping for the best for everyone.

The people from south of downtown Houston down to the coast are the ones evacuating.
Us folks up here north of downtown Houston will get wind damage but the water isn't going get us unless it is those people in low laying areas. I'm in a neighborhood that is not low lying so the water won't get us unless the roof blows off.

If I lived further down south then I'd probably head out, but I think I'm far enough north to be able to stay home. And Aunt Jean is way further up north than I am, so she is even safer.; September 11, 2008 5:36 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Leah and Aunt Jean, and any others in Texas:

Remember that the worst storm effects are the right front quadrant of the hurricane.

Think of it as a clock - whichever way the hurricane is headed is 12:00 o'clock - the right front quadrant is from 12:00 - 3:00. This is where the worst winds are usually located.

Since you are quite a ways from the coast, you shouldn't have to worry about storm surge at all, but you DO need to keep in mind the wind. The winds of a hurricane will not start to drop until after the hurricane eye has made landfall and traveled several miles inshore.

Keep an ear on weather reports, and how far out from the eye that hurricane-force winds extend, and also tropical storm-force winds extend. Remember, tropical storm-force winds can be from 39 to 72 miles per hour.

Also be alert for tornado warnings - the out bands of a hurricane is where tornadoes most commonly form.

Keep alert, and stay safe.

Mike; September 11, 2008 5:54 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This is GREAT!

McCain's Earmark Hypocrisy: Seals, Crabs, and Bears! Oh My!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj6TvUQ_0to&e; September 11, 2008 6:01 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah - Any shelters opening in your area? One of the scariest trips my wife and I ever took was when we were in Virginia. The winds got so bad we finally decided to evacuate our home and travel 4 miles to the nearest shelter. Over 25,000 3'+ diameter trees went down in a 10 mile square radius since the ground was so saturated the roots would not hold. Luckily none landed on us but it took over four hours to cut our way through to the school. I've never been that scared in my life with those damn things falling all around us. We found out later that several who followed us spent the next full day in thier vehicles because they didn't think to have a chain saw. The ironic thing was my brand new $100K+ manufactured home never experienced any damage at all even though 90% of the homes in the community had roofs totally torn off. We sure were lucky!; September 11, 2008 6:04 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: By the way - is anyone ever going to tell me how Oreo got his nickname or are you all going to keep me in the dark?; September 11, 2008 6:06 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Thank you to everyone that has posted concerning about the hurricane. Ya'll are more worried than I am.

As far as Oreo's name, I am not sure...; September 11, 2008 6:11 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 11, 2008 6:14 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Damn - more fodder for the Republicans - Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth by saying that Hillary was more qualified than him to be VP. He was trying to defend her from a supporter that was anti-Hillary. The Republicans will spend the next 2 days on this instead of the issues! Stick to the issues Joe and don't shoot from the hip please!; September 11, 2008 6:18 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Mike-in-Ga

That is old news about Biden.

It was on all the websites all day yesterday and barely got a mention on the TV.

Nothing to worry about.
------------------------------

Here is something to worry about:

EXCLUSIVE: GOV. SARAH PALIN WARNS WAR MAY BE NECESSARY IF RUSSIA INVADES ANOTHER COUNTRY

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/; September 11, 2008 6:30 PM
jean said...: mike-in-ga,
Newer Manufactured Homes are 10 times better built than stick homes, though few know it.
You were the smart one.

In reference to Oreo, it has always been that way. No secret.

Biden said that yesterday or the day before. It is blowing over.
He was real strong for HRC before.

Leah, I guess after the ceiling coming down in your bedroom you are now immune;)
Just stay safe.
jean; September 11, 2008 6:37 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah - I watch Directv Newmix so I can see all of the networks. Fox, Fox Business, HNN, and CNN have all been pushing it today. Seems like what's on the internet takes a day or so because that's where most of them get thier BS headlines to raise controversy and stir trouble. They make sure they quote him out of context - what else would you expect!; September 11, 2008 6:38 PM
Beryl said...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Proof of McCain Lies; September 11, 2008 6:41 PM
Beryl said...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5hpJKuh-s

Women's Groups In Alaska Rally Against Palin, ABC video on Troopergate; September 11, 2008 6:48 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Jean - Yup that's why we bought a high-end Palm Harbor w/2X6's and 2X10's throughout and no pressed wood fiberboard like most homes. To bad some don't spend the extra money to properly secure them. I've got 3' screw anchors every 18 inches.

Damn Fox News - They keep pushing Biden's comments. Now all of a sudden they are Hillary fans. They just love controversy!; September 11, 2008 6:53 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: jean-

The bedroom ceiling has been finished now for quite some time, but I haven't moved back into that room yet - I'm still in the guest room. There is still an eerie feeling I get when I go into that room and I am sort of afraid to sleep in there in case the ceiling falls down again! LOL :)

The house could use a newer roof but I do hope that the wind does not hit us that bad!; September 11, 2008 6:54 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Mike-in-GA

FoxNews is the worst station to watch. They are always pro-McCain and pro-republicans.

If you are going to watch Fox then you are going to ALWAYS hear things twisted. I for one don't care at all about what Fox says... that station is for republicans.

MSNBC and CNN and C-Span is much better if you are going to spend time watching the news.; September 11, 2008 6:57 PM
Independent Voter said...: OMFG! Palin really IS Bush/Cheney in a skirt.

She appoints a middle school basketball coach to the Board of Conservation and Game.

WHAT THE F###? Who did she appoint to Health and Human Services? An oil executive?; September 11, 2008 6:58 PM
jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 11, 2008 7:00 PM
suzihussein22 said...: Promising news-

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5778796&page=1; September 11, 2008 7:18 PM
Beryl said...: That is good news, Leah.

It reminds me of this:
http://punditkitchen.com/2008/09/05/political-pictures-barack-obama-chill-out-got-this/; September 11, 2008 7:22 PM
Karen Anne said...: http://punditkitchen.com/2008/09/09/political-pictures-john-mccain-black-guy/; September 11, 2008 7:40 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Palin's ABC Interview: Stumped On Bush Doctrine, Seems To Contradict McCain On Pakistan (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/palins-abc-interview-stum_n_125818.html

.; September 11, 2008 7:49 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: PALIN TALKS ABOUT INVADING RUSSIA

US-RUSSIA WAR OVER GEORGIA MAY BE NECESSARY..

Doesn't Know What Bush Doctrine Is...

ABC's Gibson: What Are Your National Security Credentials...?

My National Security Credentials Have To Do With Energy...

www.HuffingtonPost.com

.
She doesn't know anything - Palin is an empty suit PUPPET !!!; September 11, 2008 7:54 PM

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