Democratic Convention Watch: Open Thread

Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Open Thread

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What is McCain's latest "senior moment", what does Obama need to do to win in November or whatever else is on your mind.

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Aunt Jean said...: Goodnight everyone looking forward to yapping tomorrow. AJ; November 01, 2008 1:12 AM
Mike-in-GA said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 01, 2008 1:39 AM
Mike-in-GA said...: Well guys I think the garbage is starting. The AP just reported that Barack's aunt is living illegally in the US in Boston. I knew the Republicans (with the help of the administration) were about to stir up some BS. Thier first salvo was fired tonight.; November 01, 2008 2:11 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Mike-

I don't think the 'little' smears will make it on the TV at this point.

Watching CNN and MSNBC today they were focused more on the voting lines and the electoral college map, etc.

In my opinion any new smears are not going to have any effect - unless it is something 'big' as in a 'huge' scandal.

Whatever is on the news Saturday and Sunday will be old news by Monday when the 'majority' of folks watch TV - and Tuesday is election day ;)

Just my opinion.; November 01, 2008 2:33 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: I also wanted to add that the inner circle of Senator Obama's family is very small.

There was Obama's mother (who has passed away), Obamam's grandfather, his mother's father (who has passed away), Obama's grandmother that lives in Hawaii. and Obama's half-sister that lives in Hawaii with her husband and child.

All of the Kenyan folks are not people that Obama grew up with or ones that he has any close connection with. Even the grandmother in Kenyan is not a close relative to Obama because she is a wife of Obama's dead grandfather and she is not blood related to Obama.

I don't think the Boston aunt is an issue at all.; November 01, 2008 2:39 AM
Mike-in-GA said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 01, 2008 2:45 AM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah - I'll be glad when Wednesday gets here. I have been on political overload for a week now. All I do is watch the polls. Maybe then I won't be glued to my laptop or the TV. It will be time for a real vacation.; November 01, 2008 2:51 AM
Mike-in-GA said...: Leah - I hope you are right but I just have a feeling that the Republicans will make sure this hits the news channels because they need whatever they can to create a cloud. I just hope that Barack doesn't back himself into a corner by claiming he doesn't know anything about it. If they catch him in a lie - it will create a stir because he talked about her in his memoirs. I know how slimy the Republicans can be with this kind of BS.; November 01, 2008 2:54 AM
Karen Anne said...: I don;t think it will matter. Everyone is numbed out by the Repub lies and crap by now, kind of like an innoculation.; November 01, 2008 6:20 AM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Not that any of you need to be inspired, but on Bill Maher last night John Legend performed a song that I thought was FANTASTIC!!!

It would be a great song to have playing as Obama comes out Tuesday to acknowledge victory.

You can listen to on Overtime it at:

http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/; November 01, 2008 9:00 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Emit

I agree with you about the song. It's awesome. AJ; November 01, 2008 9:21 AM
Independent Voter said...: Leah - Hillary will not get Reid's job. There are way too many other senators with seniority in the senate.

Senate majority leader is not a position based on seniority, if it were Robert Byrd would hold the position. And yes, I already knew the president doesn't pick the Senate Majority Leader nor does he pick Speaker of the House. All I was saying is that I think HRC would make a GREAT Senate Majority Leader. And the reason I think she would make a great SML is because she has a spine to stand up against the president (regardless of who that president is) if she feels he/she is wrong in their judgment.

Reid is spineless, he doesn't stand by his convictions - in this manner he is much like John McShrub. He's too wishy-washy - "we may revisit LIEberman's position within the Democratic Caucus." What the effing kind of #### is that? Either you kick him to the curb or you don't. And in my opinion LIEberman has GOT TO GO! He deserves zero respect and NO leadership roles in any committees.; November 01, 2008 1:41 PM
Independent Voter said...: RUT ROW!!!!!!!!!

This KISS OF DEATH just came in for John McCain. He has been endorsed by DICK Cheney.; November 01, 2008 2:06 PM
Beryl said...: The good news is that my Republican, Reagan-worshipping sister and BIL "voted for change". They didn't explicitly say they voted for Obama but neither like Palin.; November 01, 2008 3:20 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Indy-

Yep the Senate majority leader is not a position based on seniority, BUT what I was trying to say (and didn't very well) is that there are too many other senators with seniority that would be picked before HRC would be. HRC hasn't been in the Senate long enough - and Byrd has been there too long ;); November 01, 2008 3:31 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Article from Politico.com

Sarkozy calling...

Uh-oh. The Canada Press (the Canadian version of AP) reports:

MONTREAL — A Quebec comedy duo notorious for prank calls to celebrities and heads of state has reached Sarah Palin, convincing the Republican vice-presidential nominee she was speaking with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

In the interview, which lasts about six minutes, Palin and the pranksters discuss politics, pundits, and the dangers of hunting with current vice-president Dick Cheney.

The Masked Avengers, who have a regular show on Montreal radio station CKOI, intend to air the full interview on the eve of the U.S. elections.

The well-known duo of Sebastien Trudel and Marc-Antoine Audette have also tricked Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger, Microsoft founder Bill Gates and French president Jacques Chirac.

.; November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
apissedant said...: Sorry I've been absent. Hope all goes well.

I felt the need to say how much John McCain has changed, and how much I've grown to despise him. I cannot believe that's the same man I voted for 8 years ago.

He, and not Joe, the not plumber... saying Obama would be the end of Israel, and calling him a Communist... and then having the balls to get angry that people have called out not Joe the not plumber for not being Joe, nor being a plumber, and not paying his taxes....
WHAT!?!?!?

I hate these people. I hope he loses Arizona.

P.S. I'm still not your damn friend John McCain!; November 01, 2008 4:07 PM
Aunt Jean said...: apissedant

Missed you hows the wife and school? I voted early dang it felt good!!!! AJ; November 01, 2008 4:18 PM
Joshua said...: I swear that I have never known about a more exceptional political candidate than Obama. In spite of the entire right wing scouring this man’s past, they have been unable to find any skeleton. All they can come up with is that he has met or was acquainted with someone with whom we may have an issue. But nothing about the man himself. I would like to hold McCain to a similar level of accountability for not just his own actions but that of everyone with whom he has met. I am a physician and must at all times maintain a high degree of conduct. But I am certain that my path has crossed with people worse than any Obama has met.

There has never been a candidate as good as Obama.; November 01, 2008 4:36 PM
Karen Anne said...: stop is getting kind of amusing. If I didn't fear for his sanity, I'd be enjoying his impression of a two year old alternately screaming and holding his breath until he turns blue :-)

Take a nice hot bath, stop. Have some cocoa. Lay down with a cold facecloth over your face.; November 01, 2008 4:54 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here is a link for the Canadian PALIN PRANK call...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcEiR01QK7o

How funny!; November 01, 2008 5:07 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Hey Leah, did that prankster guy say something about his wife was "hot in bed" and something about an "armpit" later on?? I'll have to listen to it again, because I think he slipped in a lot of crazy stuff that went right over Palin's little head. Boy did he get her good!!!; November 01, 2008 5:20 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Ruby-

Yes!
Also he mentions the Nailin' Palin' porn film and it goes right over her head!; November 01, 2008 5:23 PM
Independent Voter said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 01, 2008 5:49 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Leah, now that's funny right there!
Hey Palin! Here's your sign!!; November 01, 2008 6:02 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: EVERYONE be sure to watch this audio/video of PALIN on a PRANK call and send the link to everyone you know!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc

Have a nice trip back to Alaska Gov. Palin!; November 01, 2008 6:10 PM
Doug said...: The Palin Prank call makes me proud to be Canadian!; November 01, 2008 6:34 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Chris Mathews Hardball is on right now here in Texas

and

Keith Olbermann will have a show tonight also.

Yes, it is Saturday but they are on the air!; November 01, 2008 6:41 PM
Independent Voter said...: Ruby, I SOOOOOOOOOOO forgot about that song! That is SOOOOOOO applicable to Sarah Palin!; November 01, 2008 6:46 PM
Mike in Maryland said...: Dave (Indy voter),

Some (hopefully) good news on Prop 8:

SurveyUSA
10/29-31/08; 637 Likely Voters polled, 4% MOE
Mode: IVR

Proposition 8 would eliminate the right of Same-Sex Couples to marry. It changes the California Constitution so that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid in California. On Proposition 8, are you ... Certain to vote yes? Certain to vote no? Or not certain?

47% Yes
50% No

You can get the poll internals at
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=1c4ececc-7c3c-490c-8f35-13341be85e1e

Mike; November 01, 2008 7:13 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Also Leah, Rachel Maddow will be on tomorrow night.; November 01, 2008 7:18 PM
Independent Voter said...: Mike - It is going to be a nail biter. The ONLY problem that I foresee is a huge military vote in favor of the measure. The Mormons and the Catholics have been shoveling money, hand over fist, into the "Yes" campaign. And when I say shoveling, I mean millions upon millions. The funding for "No" is so limited. And ALL they are doing is pushing through lie after lie about the amendment stating that schools would be forced to teach same-sex marriage in the classroom and saying that parents don't have an opportunity to opt-out. Both of these claims are FALSE. It just chaps my ass that they make the claim that same-sex marriage will devastate the "sanctity of marriage" despite the fact that they ONLY thing that devastates the "sanctity of marriage" is DIVORCE. But NO they don't want to talk about that.

I still say that if Prop 8 passes, I will work to put an initiative on the ballot to BAN DIVORCE. If they are so "high and mighty" that they want to claim that we (gays) will wreck their marriage, then I say they are STUCK with their spouse until they move OUT of our state.; November 01, 2008 7:28 PM
Independent Voter said...: Well the prank call has already gone mainstream since McShrub admitted to her being "punk'd"

Here's the AP article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081101/od_afp/usvotecanadapalinoffbeat_081101233034; November 01, 2008 7:45 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Hey you guys! Please give me your thoughts on what I'm about to say. (Please keep in mind that this is my first "election", so don't laugh at my idea) It seems to me that the polls are probably assumptions that Democrats will vote Democrat, Republicans will vote Republican, and Independents could go either way. Okay, so I think the percentage of Republicans voting Democrat is far greater than the percentage Democrats voting Republican, and with a pretty good percentage of Independents voting Democrat, that's when mouths will drop all over the world when they see the OBAMA LANDSLIDE!!; November 01, 2008 7:47 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: MSNBC just announced that they are fixin' to run the WHOLE 6 minutes of the Palin phone call !!!; November 01, 2008 8:12 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Check out Chris Rock. He was hitting McCain hard!! Right now, it's only a link that you can listen to. Click on "Listen here".
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/11/chris-rock-deli.html; November 01, 2008 8:18 PM
Independent Voter said...: ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! They have updated the "palin Presidency" site.

Remember to move the cursor around and click on different areas of the oval office.; November 01, 2008 8:24 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: That prank phone call gets better and better!!! Keith Olbermann will have a field day with this one!!; November 01, 2008 8:39 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 01, 2008 8:42 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Hey guys - I just heard the Palin Prank call on MSNBC. It was hilarious. Hard for me to imagine that she could be so naive as to let that type of thing happen. What did you all think of the coverage of her Florida rally today? Her signs were all Palin 08and no McCain/Palin signs. That does not look good for her "team" concept.; November 01, 2008 8:43 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Dave, the Palin Presidency is a HOOT!!! LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL!!!; November 01, 2008 8:44 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 01, 2008 8:48 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Ok, first time trying the Tiny URL thing.

http://tinyurl.com/5qu9k3

Found a video over on cnn.com of a kid trick or treating in Decatur Georgia. Interesting results.

Why Georgia is turning BLUE>; November 01, 2008 8:53 PM
Independent Voter said...: Emit, that was AWESOME!; November 01, 2008 9:00 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 01, 2008 9:01 PM
Mike-in-GA said...: Emit - Three weeks ago we in Georgia were skeptical - but it is getting much closer than the Republicans ever thought it could be. The most important thing that could come out of this is that Saxby Chambliss could be upset. In Georgia there is a requirement for a simple majority or they will have to have a "runoff". If that happens it could be possible to put the Senate Democrats at the "60 member filibuster-proof" number. Only question is whether the African American community would come out as strong in a runoff or if the 7% of Barr's support would go Republican. We are trying hard to make it happen.; November 01, 2008 9:05 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Emit
that was a smart little boy and very cute. AJ; November 01, 2008 9:06 PM
Beryl said...: Great video of Alaska Women for Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lffB7B8jKE

Warning -- if you are sentimental, get a tissue before clicking on the link.

(Sorry if this was posted a couple of days ago and I missed it.); November 01, 2008 9:12 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Beryl

that was GREAT!!!!!!! Wouldn't it be a great if Obama won Alaska. AJ; November 01, 2008 9:19 PM
Beryl said...: Emit,
that was a terrific clip. I love that little boy and how he responded to becoming a Pres some day. Too bad folks like Palin don't have that wisdom!; November 01, 2008 9:26 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Wow! There's a lot of great video links posted on the Open Thread today! Thanks to everyone for sharing :); November 01, 2008 9:48 PM
Karen Anne said...: Beryl, no question, Democrats have more fun :-); November 01, 2008 9:48 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This woman is HORRIBLE !!!

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7768833&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

One of the WORST Halloween stories ever!; November 01, 2008 10:13 PM
Beryl said...: Yes, Leah, that woman is horrid. I almost pity her since she will go down in history as the neighborhood Halloween witch.; November 01, 2008 10:21 PM
Independent Voter said...: LOL AJ! Although I agree, I would have to say I'm sure the neighbors probably aren't going to be too friendly with her from now on. :)

It's nice to see these people being exposed for the asses that they are.; November 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Barack Obama live in Springfield, MO. Springfield is only TWO HOURS from where I live, but I wasn't able to go. But I'm watching him now on CNN Live.; November 01, 2008 10:52 PM
Independent Voter said...: WTF is MSNBC doing? Why TF are they dredging up SHIT that took place during the primary? Are they TRYING to screw things up, AGAIN?; November 01, 2008 11:15 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: You know what Dave? I was thinking the same thing. Some of those memories need to stay buried right now.; November 01, 2008 11:23 PM
Beryl said...: I was thinking the same thing, Dave. It was so unnecessary for them to air than so close to the election. I love Keith O but he really messed up this time.; November 01, 2008 11:33 PM
Beryl said...: Meant to say
"It was so unnecessary for them to air THAT so close to the election."; November 01, 2008 11:33 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Well that was a record for SNL - three good skits in a row before it went down hill with two duds!

Now it's time for WeekEnd Update so it should get good again!; November 02, 2008 12:19 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Dave
I would say no she's not going to be very popular. Matter of fact I would probably call her holloween bitch everytime I saw her. LOL LOL AJ; November 02, 2008 12:40 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Palin Prank Call is making news ALL OVER THE WORLD!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3578956

And here is a link to google results for artilce ALL over the WORLRD about the PRANK with links to Canada, South Africa, Australia, UK, Iran, etc.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1265526771

Looks like this will be an INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT with France!

You Betcha!; November 02, 2008 12:41 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here is a transcript of the Palin Prank call with the French parts translated:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/11/1/151958/557/577#c577; November 02, 2008 1:04 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Ah HA! And who exactly is the celebrity? John McCain!

Here is a long lost video of when John McCain met Anna Nicole Smith:

http://www.etonline.com/news/2008/10/67206/index.html

.; November 02, 2008 3:05 AM
apissedant said...: Hey Aunt Jean!!

The wife and the child inside of her are both doing very well in the Netherlands. At least the wife misses her husband, and I can't say for sure with the child missing the father. Just over a month and we'll be together, hopefully to never be apart again! Hit another big snag with immigration over on this side of the water, but I have Senator Webb's office involved, and hopefully they'll be able to clear things up for me.

If not, hopefully immigration on that side the water will go smoother, and I'll just say goodbye to the USA. Whatever, my wife and child are more important than my country.; November 02, 2008 3:39 AM
apissedant said...: Oh, and Ben Affleck's impersonation of Kieth O was hilarious! He did it very well, and I have to say, as much as I love Kieth, he does tend to foam at the mouth a bit too often.; November 02, 2008 3:40 AM
apissedant said...: I agree Dave and Beryl,

I couldn't help but get angry at Hillary while they were replaying all the crap. Those were wounds that I was completely happy forgetting... at least for the time being.; November 02, 2008 3:43 AM
Karen Anne said...: Is the MSNBC thing on video somewhere? What was their justification for dragging old stuff up?

I'm not mad at Hillary, although I was during the primary campaign, because I thought she was damaging Obama's chance in the general. She has really been a trooper lately.

Looking back, she must have been horribly disappointed and so went a bit overboard. Should have run a better campaign. Next time she will. We all screwup and do better next time (except for Republicans.)

Wow, that Halloween candy woman is unbalanced. And I was reading some Times article about McCain supporters today where some recent immigrant was worried Obama would turn the country into something like an old Soviet republic. Who's the one supporting torture? I would have said to her.

I think this is the "otherness" thing coming into play. Did anyone say stuff like that about Kerry?

Democrats, the party with more than one brain cell to rub together.; November 02, 2008 5:51 AM
Kujo said...: I watched the MSNBC recap of the primary/election. I was not disappointed at all in HRC.

It was because of HRC that all the issues like Rev Wright already came up taking away amo from McCain/The Republicans.

It also helped Obama create a ground team in all 50 states.

Plus in all 50 states, people were listening to Obama's and HRC message, so when the Republicans lied about it, not as many people fell for it.; November 02, 2008 6:42 AM
Beryl said...: apis,
I wish you speedy resolution to your immigration snag.

Regarding SNL - ITA on the Keith O impersonation -- it was terrific. I adore Keith but he does connect some dots in ways that leave me saying... "hmmmm". McPalin's sketches were really funny. I only hope it doesn't help him get more votes. As funny as he is (I can admit that), he should still never be President. Maybe they should have him just become a SNL regular.

Kujo - I agree with your assessment of how the HRC campaign really helped Obama. She took him to task and helped him to be a better campaigner. I think Obama admitted that several times also.; November 02, 2008 7:14 AM
Emit R Detsaw said...: On the MSNBC thing... Said it all along that the media was trying to keep the polls, and thus their ratings up.

In a way, if they can keep the polls close it will help get voters out that might stay home if they were showing a blow-out.

Still need everyone to vote to get to my 429 EVs. ;o); November 02, 2008 7:19 AM
Emit R Detsaw said...: LOL - meant to say the media is trying to keep the polls tight.

Darn time change.; November 02, 2008 7:24 AM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Just in case you've missed some of the latest SNL skits, (like I have) here's a link to bring you up to speed. There's several videos on this link, and a few articles. Wait for it to load up, then sit back and enjoy.
http://didjacit.blogspot.com/search/label/snl; November 02, 2008 9:13 AM
Karen Anne said...: DocJess reported on the main section that they've found that "someone" is calling Dem voters and giving them wrong polling place locations and also telling older voters that someone will give them a ride to the polls on Tuesday, but leaving no contact info, so presumably no car will ever show up.

If you're phone banking or doing other GOTV stuff, please make sure your group knows about this so you can make sure this doesn't mislead voters.

20 year prison sentences for interfering with voting, imho.; November 02, 2008 10:30 AM
Ruby in Kansas said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 02, 2008 10:37 AM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Karen, it's very disturbing to see how evil "so-called" Americans can be during this time.

Here's one of Obama's latest ads. Cheney endorsing McCain.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/delighted_ad/; November 02, 2008 10:40 AM
Mike in Maryland said...: Anyone else noticing the quirky and erratic body language of McLameBrain lately when he's at a campaign event and trying to get the crowd's spirit up - the strange hand and arm movements, the bouncing on the balls of his feet? I don't remember that he did that in the past, only in the last week or two.

I do NOT think it's a medical problem. I think he's trying to buoy up the crowd, to make them think it's a close race, but deep down he knows it's a lost campaign, and thus the quirky body language.

Mike; November 02, 2008 11:11 AM
apissedant said...: Mike,
Actually he's been doing some of that weird body movement for months now. He is noticeably uncomfortable, and I think he's trying to seem more fun, young, and vibrant than he actually is. Unfortunately for him, he really really isn't, and he just ends up looking awkward.
I definitely remember one from a few months ago where he walked on stage and the whole place was packed, and he raised his hand to wave, well, he came as close as he can to raising his hand after the whole Vietnam thing, and then made a couple of jumps to try to make sure everyone could see him waving hello and smiling. It was one of the most awkward things I've seen.

As to the MSNBC thing, I can see some of your points, but not all. Airing all the dirty laundry early was definitely good for things like Rev. Wright. The silly allegations like him just being a bag of wind with no real substance behind it, and McCain being qualified for Presidency but not him, well those statements were not helpful and completely unnecessary.
Those statements aren't controversies, they are opinions, and opinions don't have a shelf life. The end result is those statements have been used by Republicans without stop. They picked up on every single one of them, and it has been their entire battle cry. Those two statements definitely still had teeth and definitely stuck in the public mind. I still hear that Obama has no experience and is just a bunch of pretty speeches from independents when I talk to them now.; November 02, 2008 11:29 AM
apissedant said...: beryl,
Thanks, but odds are against it. USCIS is the slowest, dumbest, most two-faced, irratic, and most expensive government agency we have. YAY Republicans for bringing us isolationist policies that encourage illegal immigration and screw people who try to do it the right away.; November 02, 2008 11:31 AM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Mike, I've noticed the quirky and erractic body language for quite some time. I thought he was trying to force his body to make movements despite his war injuries. I've also noticed the "bouncing" on his feet, but I figured he does it sometimes to try and make up for the limitation of his arms.....like trying to appear as though he's waving at a "higher level" than what he really is. (I'm not making fun of him by any means); November 02, 2008 11:35 AM
apissedant said...: Come to think of it...
What ever happened to Sarah Palin releasing her medical records? Can you say, 4 kids?; November 02, 2008 11:36 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Open Thread EV Contest

*** MAIN CONTEST early submissions ***

JayW - 269
Beryl - 280 (51% pop.vote)
Hippolytus - 289
Dilbuck - 290
softspoken22 - 298 — (51.5% pop. vote)
Emma - 300 (1)
Aunt Jean - 300 (2) — (53% pop.vote/McCain 44%/und. 3%)
SarahLawrenceScott - 303
Richard/Rich (vtslayer) - 304 (1)
Oh Canada - 304 (2)
jean - 311
Mike in Maryland - 312
tmess2 - 315 — (O-65m/M-58m)*7
RobH - 317 (1) — (O-68m/M-58m)*10
apissedant - 317 (2) — (O-68m/M-60m)*8
Oregon Dem - 332
Leah - 345 — (O-69m/M-50m)*19
Woodland Sprite - 360
Emit R Detsaw - 429 (O-75m / 62.5% O, 33% M, 4.5% Others)
Independent voter - 538
______________________

* * * October 'last minute' guess submissions * * *

Pablo (baby Tristan+): 306 — (50.5% B.O - 46% J.M and 4.5% other)
Mike-in-GA: 309 (+5%)
Beryl: 311
Mike in Maryland: 344 — (O-68.5m/M-62.5m)
Aunt Jean: 347 (O-53% M-43% other-4%)
tmess2: 349
Richard/Rich (vtslayer): 364 — (51% Obama, 47% McCain, 2% Other)
Indy: 353 EV's — (Obama 49.8%, McShrub 44.6%, Other 5.6%)
Oh Canada: 364
Leah: 372
Kujo: 396
Emit R. Detsaw: 429

______________________

The EV numbers in this contest (in the top part) were submitted several months ago and those numbers are our MAIN contest. Anyone submitting a new number will be shown in the October 'last minute' number section.
- - -
Everyone can add an Obama pop.vote number and McCain pop.vote number rounded off to the nearest million - the last number (*) is the margin. Or just a pop.vote or margin # if you wish to do so.
___________________________
2004 General Election Popular vote
Bush 62,040,610
Kerry 59,028,444

CUT OFF for submissions will be TONIGHT when I go to bed..
To make it FAIR 'second guess' October numbers can be changed, if you wish.; November 02, 2008 11:41 AM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: By the way...
Arianna Huffington at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
has a EV contest going on in her article at the left side of the 'home' page. The winner wins an IPOD.; November 02, 2008 11:44 AM
apissedant said...: Ruby, that's my perception exactly. ;)

I'm not making fun of him either, and I feel for his injuries... but you have to realize the limitations of your body... and how awkward movements look on the camera. Just bad PR people for not telling him he looks like an idiot.; November 02, 2008 11:45 AM
apissedant said...: 54% Obama, 45% McCain.
Obama, 375 EVs
I think 45% is the bare minimum a candidate from either party can get without a prominent third party candidate.; November 02, 2008 11:50 AM
apissedant said...: I know I'm not supposed to respond to trolls... but at this point it is trivial enough where I don't feel it matters.

Barack Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant. Let's pretend he was born overseas, who cares? John McCain was born overseas too. The United State Constitution requires that a President is a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen has been defined as being born a U.S. citizen. Under current U.S. laws, a person is born a U.S. citizen if either parent is a U.S. citizen, OR if they are born in the United States. Since Barack Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth, he is a natural born citizen, regardless of the location of his birth. I have specifically researched this, and spoken with USCIS officials about it, as my child will not be born in the United States.

Do you have any other moot points you'd like to discuss?; November 02, 2008 12:19 PM
apissedant said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 02, 2008 12:23 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout Apissedant!; November 02, 2008 12:23 PM
apissedant said...: Stop actually sounds like The Daily Shown during the 2004 Democratic National Convention. LOL, he is hilariously unbalanced.

By definition, Obama was born a U.S. citizen, and a Kenyan citizen. So the answer to your question is both. Check your laws before you foam at the mouth my friend. ;)

We're doing what's best for you, even if you don't realize it.; November 02, 2008 12:23 PM
apissedant said...: Stop, again, check your laws. You arguing against yourself. By your argument, YOUR candidate UNARGUABLY cannot be President of the United States.

;)

Common sense goes a long ways.; November 02, 2008 12:33 PM
apissedant said...: LOL,
How does biracial come into play? Only 100% white children born overseas can be considered citizens?

Do I detect a hint of racism stop? You're not supposed to be that blatant with it, silly. You seem to have forgotten your code words.; November 02, 2008 12:43 PM
apissedant said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 02, 2008 1:00 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: SNL has last night's skitS uploaded to their website:

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/

there is also an exclusive McCain backstage clip there too.; November 02, 2008 1:02 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: APISSEDANT! You're on FIRE!!! Keep on doin' yo' thang!!; November 02, 2008 1:10 PM
apissedant said...: Thanks Ruby.

I love facts, you can't argue against facts without sounding crazy, makes my job easy. ;); November 02, 2008 1:23 PM
apissedant said...: By the way,
The democratic groups are out to work. I just got a call ON MY CELL PHONE ensuring that I knew that the election was in fact, on November 4th, and that as long as I'm registered, I am eligible to vote, and the police cannot stop me or penalize me showing up at the polls.

Good job democrats!; November 02, 2008 1:24 PM
apissedant said...: New main photo I meant to upload a month ago...; November 02, 2008 1:33 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR ENDORSES BARACK OBAMA!!

http://www.azstarnet.com/opinion/265275

In your face McCain!; November 02, 2008 1:37 PM
Matt said...: Remember, no feeding allowed.; November 02, 2008 1:44 PM
Independent Voter said...: You have been warned p'd ant....LOL

Thanks for the clean-up Matt!

Ruby, keep in mind that the Daily Star is a liberal paper in the Tucson area (VERY liberal area of AZ). But yes, it is still nice to see that a paper in AZ endorsing Obama!; November 02, 2008 1:49 PM
Ruby in Kansas said...: Dave said, "Ruby, keep in mind that the Daily Star is a liberal paper in the Tucson area (VERY liberal area of AZ)."

Man! I told you I was new at this election stuff. LOL; November 02, 2008 1:54 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Considering that there are republicans endorsing Obama and newspapers in Alaska and Arizona endorsing Obama - America is not so divided that we can't come together - as some people might think ;)

We are not red America or blue America - we are the UNITED States of America.

November 4th America will turn PURPLE! ONE NATION :); November 02, 2008 1:56 PM
RobH said...: Here's an interesting website that uses statistical modelling to project the timeline for Tuesday night. It uses regression modelling to predict the timeline for when the various states will be called (given poll closing times, tightness of races, and time lag from tipping point to call.) It presents its findings in a video of a powerpoint presentation - a little less than 10 minutes long, of which the first six and a half is methodology.

You can now take Tuesday night off, everybody.

http://www.the-numbers.com/thecrunch/?p=42; November 02, 2008 2:07 PM
Independent Voter said...: LOL Ruby. The only reason I knew it was/is liberal is because I move here (San Diego) from Phoenix. Tucson is a lot more forward thinking (and MUCH closer to the Mexico border) than the rest of the state. Don't get me wrong, Phoenix isn't too bad, but the rest of the state is still pretty hickish.; November 02, 2008 2:09 PM
RobH said...: Leah,

I was going to post an October version for the contest before cutoff tonight, but I can't believe it; apissedant just beat me to it with my exact - I mean exact - values! I'd get to 375 by taking the common 353 that most sites now predict and adding in MO and IN. That's what I hope for - my heart, not my head.

My earlier pop vote estimate of 68M:58M was in fact based on a 54%:45% split of 126M total votes. I got a nine point spread based on the then current trackers plus a couple points for "no cell phones" in the surveys, less a tiny bit for "bradley" plus a sensible split for remaining undecideds (and 1% third party.)

Got to hand it to you apissed....

Anyway, I think turnout will be MUCH higher than I'd guessed, so here's my final guess:

EV: 0=364, M=174
Pop vote: O=51.5% M=46.5%
137M total votes 0=71M, McC=64M

Two caveats:

1) This requires the belief that more people will vote for McCain in '08 than voted for Bush in '04 - hard to fathom, I admit.

2) My gut tells me that before 11PM on Tues evening the nets will start reporting that the RNC and some state GOP's intend to file lawsuits contesting the results in specific states, and all these EV's will be on hold. Could include any of: FL, NC, VA, PA, OH, MI, WI, CO, NM, NV.

God I hope I'm wrong....; November 02, 2008 2:35 PM
Karen Anne said...: RobH, I wouldn't put anything past the GOP, but does anyone know how this works legally? Can a lawsuit prevent electors from voting? (I know, I should remember from 2000, but all I remember is Repugs physically intimidating Florida vote counters.)

If the Supreme Court overturns the vote again, I believe there will be riots in the streets like none of us have ever seen. Or massive civil disobedience.; November 02, 2008 3:05 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Hi AP

give him hell! Hope everything goes well with imagration. AJ; November 02, 2008 3:10 PM
tmess2 said...: Looking at the top 100 papers, of the 34 that endorsed Bush in 2004, 10 went for Obama, 20 for McCain, and 4 couldn't decide or decided to get out of the endorsement business. Of the 54 that went for Kerry, 52 went for Obama, 1 hasn't endorsed yet, and 1 decided to get out of the endorsement business. (Obama is also leading among the no endorsements from 2004 by a margin of 4-3.; November 02, 2008 3:18 PM
tmess2 said...: I would say couldn't file law suits before the count is certified, but we have seen law suits about the canvassing process before. However, until there is a certified count, you can't challenge the election itself.

I really don't see a case unless the election is very very close in a lot of states. It would cost credibility for the next 20 years to try to overturn large margins in a large number of states.; November 02, 2008 3:23 PM
Vicki in Seattle said...: hey everyone! just saying hi. our three Obama signs out front haven't been stolen or defaced, but I've seen some of that going on around here. I guess no republicans in our little neighborhood!

O and Joe in '08!; November 02, 2008 4:09 PM
suzihussein22 said...: vicki-Most of the first Obama signs I saw go up have been taken, none defaced, and one was accordianed. We went the back way to the vet this weekend and saw a whole lot more Obama signs than I expected.

Sarge is going to have a leg amputated, btw. He will affectionately be called stumpy tomorrow. :(

peevish-Hey stranger. Since my sister-in-law had to come down this week, I found out she is in the Hampton Roads area also. I thought she was closer to the VA Beach area than that. I'll see your new pic in a minute, just hold your britches. :)

jean-Who were you picking this weekend? Our guys won by the skin of their teeth.

We're now hoping my mother-in-law can go to rehab tomorrow. Thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers. It's been a rough week.

aunt jean-I think you're a great woman too.

Since I rebutted a smear on the Tennessean this morning in the comments section, they got removed but so did I. That's okay. At least the lie is gone. You'd be proud of me.; November 02, 2008 5:29 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 02, 2008 5:33 PM
Karen Anne said...: suzi,

You guys are having a tough time.

How is Sarge doing in general? Is he okay otherwise? There seem to be a lot of three legged dogs and they do okay.; November 02, 2008 7:45 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

Iguess I missed it somehow. Why is your dog getting his leg amputated? AJ; November 02, 2008 7:59 PM
Aunt Jean said...: is anyone on tonight? AJ; November 02, 2008 8:51 PM
Aunt Jean said...: I decided to put a pic. of my little doggy on. Her name is Sweet p and she's a sweety. AJ; November 02, 2008 8:54 PM
Karen Anne said...: AJ, suzi's dog was hit by a car.; November 02, 2008 8:55 PM
Karen Anne said...: sweet p is really cute.; November 02, 2008 8:56 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Karen Anne
awwwwwww poor thing! But like you said I've also seen a lot of 3 legged dogs do fine.AJ; November 02, 2008 8:57 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Karen Anne
she's also rotten to the core!! LOL AJ; November 02, 2008 8:58 PM
apissedant said...: Va Beach is part of Hampton Roads. They called the whole area Hampton Roads. They also call us the seven cities. They're weird like that. They also pronounce Norfolk, Norfuck.; November 02, 2008 9:01 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Karen Anne

Have you heard anything on Obama lately? Where was he at today? Wouldn't it just bust McLame and Sarahcudas Bubble if Obama won Alaska and AZ. That would be awesome. I would even love it if it was just Alaska. I dislike Sarahcuda even more than McLame. AJ; November 02, 2008 9:03 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Api

LMAO!!!!!!!!! AJ; November 02, 2008 9:04 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Apiss

is that your car. If it is it's sharp looking! AJ; November 02, 2008 9:06 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

I hope your MIL gets to go to rehab it will do her good. They really work with them to get them back on their feet. AJ; November 02, 2008 9:09 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: AJ-

Senator Obama was in Ohio today.

If you look on the front page of DCW there is a video there of Bruce Springsteen. Bruce was with Obama today at the Cleavland, Ohio rally.
----------------------------

Tomorrow's schedule:

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Joe and Jill Biden
in Philadelphia, PA

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Senator Hillary Clinton
in St. Charles, MO

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Joe and Jill Biden
in Copley, OH

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Barack Obama
in Manassas, VA

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Joe and Jill Biden
in Lee's Summit, MO

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Barack Obama
in Charlotte, NC

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Joe and Jill Biden
in Zanesville, OH

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Michelle Obama
in Littleton, CO

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Barack Obama
in Jacksonville, FL

Nov 3
Change We Need Rally with Michelle Obama
in North Las Vegas, NV; November 02, 2008 9:14 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Today in Ohio Obama was in THREE cities:

Columbus
Cincinnati
Cleveland; November 02, 2008 9:19 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Open Thread EV Contest

*** MAIN CONTEST early submissions ***

JayW - 269
Beryl - 280 (51% pop.vote)
Hippolytus - 289
Dilbuck - 290
softspoken22 - 298 — (51.5% pop. vote)
Emma - 300 (1)
Aunt Jean - 300 (2) — (53% pop.vote/McCain 44%/und. 3%)
SarahLawrenceScott - 303
Richard/Rich (vtslayer) - 304 (1)
Oh Canada - 304 (2)
jean - 311
Mike in Maryland - 312
tmess2 - 315 — (O-65m/M-58m)*7
RobH - 317 (1) — (O-68m/M-58m)*10
apissedant - 317 (2) — (O-68m/M-60m)*8
Oregon Dem - 332
Leah - 345 — (O-69m/M-50m)*19
Woodland Sprite - 360
Emit R Detsaw - 429 (O-75m / 62.5% O, 33% M, 4.5% Others)
Independent voter - 538
______________________

* * * October 'last minute' guess submissions * * *

Pablo (baby Tristan+): 306 — (50.5% B.O - 46% J.M and 4.5% other)
Mike-in-GA: 309 (+5%)
Beryl: 311
Mike in Maryland: 344 — (O-68.5m/M-62.5m)
Aunt Jean: 347 (O-53% M-43% other-4%)
tmess2: 349
Richard/Rich (vtslayer): 364 — (51% Obama, 47% McCain, 2% Other)
Indy: 353 EV's — (Obama 49.8%, McShrub 44.6%, Other 5.6%)
(1) Oh Canada: 364
(2) RobH: 364 — (Pop vote: O=51.5% M=46.5% - 137M total votes 0=71M, McC=64M)
Leah: 372
apissedant: 375 Evs – (54% Obama, 45% McCain)
Kujo: 396
Emit R. Detsaw: 429

______________________

The EV numbers in this contest (in the top part) were submitted several months ago and those numbers are our MAIN contest. Anyone submitting a new number will be shown in the October 'last minute' number section.
- - -
Everyone can add an Obama pop.vote number and McCain pop.vote number rounded off to the nearest million - the last number (*) is the margin. Or just a pop.vote or margin # if you wish to do so.
___________________________
2004 General Election Popular vote
Bush 62,040,610
Kerry 59,028,444

CUT OFF for submissions will be TONIGHT when I go to bed..
To make it FAIR 'second guess' October numbers can be changed, if you wish.; November 02, 2008 9:22 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Here's a link to the live stream Obama rally that is going to start pretty soon now in Cincinnati, Ohio:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hqblog; November 02, 2008 9:24 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah
Thanks! That is a full schedule.But they should be great!. AJ; November 02, 2008 9:26 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Obama rally is also live streaming now on

http://www.cnn.com/live/; November 02, 2008 9:31 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

looks like they are having fun I'm jealous LOL AJ; November 02, 2008 9:35 PM
Beryl said...: Obama 75,000,000
McCain 70,000,000

Although I want a landslide, I'm sticking with my other guesses

Obama 311
51% to 48%; November 02, 2008 9:36 PM
Beryl said...: Ladies on this blog, are you experiencing stress over this election? I must admit that I am. My roller coaster of emotions are almost unbearable! There are too many highs and lows.

I'm taking off the entire week so I can help GOTV on Monday & Tuesday and recover the rest of the week.

Maybe men are experiencing the same things. I just know a lot of my lady friends are calling me with similar concerns.; November 02, 2008 9:42 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 02, 2008 9:47 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Beryl-

Yes.

I feel like I can NOT breathe...

Now that we are under 48 hours it is getting worse!

-----------------

Reminder:
Anyone that is watching the live rally on CNN - if you double click on the window it will go full screen --- then hit ESC to return to the small window.; November 02, 2008 9:50 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Beryl

I've been real emotional here the past few days. So yes I do know what you are talking about!! AJ; November 02, 2008 9:57 PM
apissedant said...: AJ,
Yup, that's my car, and thanks. ;)

It is the only Camaro I have ever seen with a bumper sticker, and it has 9!! Bill Bradley for President 2000, John Kerry for President 2004, Vote no on prop 1 (gay marriage amendment), Tim Kaine for Governor, Mark Warner for Senate, Sean O'Donnell for Congress, Phil Kellam for Congress, One House One Spouse Obama '08, and blind faith in bad leaders is not patriotism.; November 02, 2008 10:00 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah
of course I'm watching it! LOL AJ; November 02, 2008 10:00 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Apiss

that's great! AJ; November 02, 2008 10:03 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama '08; November 02, 2008 10:04 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama '08; November 02, 2008 10:05 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: From AmericaBlog.com...

It really is a 50-state strategy. And, Arizona is in play.

Via email from the DNC:

On Monday, November 3rd DNC Chairman Howard Dean will spend the last full day of the 2008 presidential election helping to get out the vote for Democrats in John McCain's home state of Arizona. Dean will headline a Get Out the Vote Rally with local Democrats in Tucson, Arizona on the heels of Arizona being moved from "Leaning McCain" to "Toss Up" by Real Clear Politics.

Democrats are organized, motivated and ready to bring about the positive change our country needs. Recent polls in Arizona indicate that the election will be close and Gov. Dean is committed to Getting Out the Vote in support of Obama-Biden and Democrats up-and-down the ballot.; November 02, 2008 10:09 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

LOL LOL LOL!!!

It needs to be:

Obama/Biden 08 Obama/Biden 08
Obama/Biden 08 Obama/Biden 08
Obama/Biden 08 Obama/Biden 08
Obama/Biden 08 Obama/Biden 08
Obama/Biden 08 Obama/Biden 08
Obama/Biden 08 Obama/Biden 08
Obama/Biden 08 Obama/Biden 08; November 02, 2008 10:13 PM
jean said...: beryl,
I cannot even type the correct words, stress is an understatement.
Thank you all for posting.
By the way, I am watching for trolls and only Oreo knows:)

jean; November 02, 2008 10:13 PM
Beryl said...: Why am I so stressed? This is PERSONAL for me.

1. I need my job. My 401K has dropped by $31K this year and I'll need to work at least another year to recover from that. Although I'm in management and have been on the same job for almost 27 years, I can lose my job at any time. My company is committed to moving jobs out of the USA to our global delivery centers.

2. My niece and sister both have MS and can't get decent health care. Also my mother is aging and I expect health care to be an issue for her in the coming years. For me -- I can't afford McCain's plan. He will tax my employer's health benefits. Health care costs keep going up and up. I paid $3000 for gall bladder surgery this year and I have insurance! I'm concerned about costs as I get older.

3. Although, I won't see a tax break under either candidate, my neighbor's financial condition effects me. Most of my personal investment is in my homes (I have one rental). If my neighbors are financially stable, they can stay in their homes and the home values won't drop.

4. I've NEVER been for this lie-based war and I hate to see us pay 10 billion each month for our troops to get killed. Look at how much good we could do with 10 billion each month! We could have more jobs and ensure people stay in their homes.

Sorry for the rambling but I just finished listening to Obama's second speech in Ohio. I'm earnestly praying that he wins this thing.; November 02, 2008 10:19 PM
tmess2 said...: Am used to getting stressed out in the last week before the campaign. One of the local state repres. candidates that I am helping -- both of her last two mailers were in the mailbox on Friday as were two from the state party supporting here. One of those things that make you want to scream at the company doing the printing since they were supposed to hit Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Monday -- not all at once. I am not going to tell how much money and effort that wasted.

Only 48 hours to go and we will know how all of our work has paid off.; November 02, 2008 10:25 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Has anyone seen any countdown clocks on any of the political websites yet?; November 02, 2008 10:30 PM
suzihussein22 said...: peevish-Like I really wanted to see your good side. :) I got her to say it, had to be there, I'm so bad. :); November 02, 2008 10:35 PM
suzihussein22 said...: aunt jean-Oh, I like the first few series of VC Andrews.

Yes, stressed is an understatement. I describe it for me as inevitable anticipation.; November 02, 2008 10:40 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

I have all the VC Andrews books except I need to buy the last few. AJ; November 02, 2008 10:43 PM
suzihussein22 said...: a j-Is sweet p a breed of terrier? A neighbor had a really sweet one. I would help walk him(Benji). It's not spoiling if it's love. :); November 02, 2008 10:48 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: This is so BIZARRE that I don't know what words to use to say this...

This is what Obama might look like if he were white and McCain black:

http://www.thecoolhunter.net/ads/Obama/McCain---The-Colored-Race/

Now ain't that bizarre?
I like Senator Obama just like he is and I don't want him to be anything other than what he is!; November 02, 2008 10:51 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

Sweet p is: 1/4 each shi suz, poodle, yorkie, and weanie dog. She weighs about 8 lbs. AJ; November 02, 2008 10:56 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

That is very bizarre! I'm like you I like him the way he is. AJ; November 02, 2008 11:00 PM
suzihussein22 said...: leah-Obama could be Edwards' brother. McCain? I wouldn't have the foggiest. I agree with you on that one, but we could look for those leggings. :); November 02, 2008 11:02 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

Do you know who Miranda Lambert is?AJ; November 02, 2008 11:06 PM
suzihussein22 said...: a j-She sounds mixed up in a cool way. :) Most of our pets are muts, some in a feline way.; November 02, 2008 11:07 PM
suzihussein22 said...: I haven't met her but I've met Aaron Tippin and Rodney Adkins and Darryl Singleterry.; November 02, 2008 11:08 PM
Aunt Jean said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 02, 2008 11:10 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

I've met Aaron Tipping,George Strait,Billy Dean,and a few more but the names has slipped my mind because it's been awhile. AJ; November 02, 2008 11:14 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

My nephew and I are going to her concert at the americam airline center Sat. and we have a meet and greet with her.She won the album of the year in 2008 for ;Gun Powder and Lead. I'll also get to be up very close to Blake Shelton. I'm really looking forward to it. If this blog is still going when I get my pic. with her I will post it. AJ; November 02, 2008 11:16 PM
suzihussein22 said...: a j-My husband likes that song too. I'll always remember meeting Tippin. He was married just before we were and I got to feel my son kick the first time that night too.; November 02, 2008 11:20 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi

then it was real special.
Both Aaron Tippin and George Strait is very nice!

I met Aaron in the store where I was working at in Tn. We talked for about 30 minutes. George Strait I met around 1983 at my ex sister in laws mothers merina after hours. We had stopped by there after parting and we asked him if he would sing Amerillo By Morning his manager said NO but he said sure Ladies!!!. AJ; November 02, 2008 11:27 PM
Emit R Detsaw said...: Hang in there beryl. Less than 48 hours to go.

You could be my twin. I have a sister with MS (and a Breast Cancer survivor), have been in management for the past 20 years if you count the manager/supervisor time in the military. 401K and Roth IRAs are down over 60K. My company was Outsourcing jobs, and with the Financial Crisis they will deliver pink slips to employees on Monday. I got mine Friday. Just hope with Obama's election, and the injection of the 700 Billion that the market corrects some more before I reach my severance period at the start of the year. Hate to have to move or cash out the 401k in this market.

So I can relate to your concerns, but really feeling good about the future with what Obama can and will bring us.; November 02, 2008 11:36 PM
suzihussein22 said...: a j-That's what I've heard about Strait from my former director too.

We're getting a care package together for my BIL. Thanks for showing me the abbr. I've finally got a real BIL and I want him to come back in one piece.

I finally saw part of Affleck's spoof. Funny!; November 02, 2008 11:37 PM
suzihussein22 said...: 'Night folks. I hope tonight wasn't the eye of a storm.; November 02, 2008 11:40 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Suzi goodnight! AJ; November 02, 2008 11:51 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: On this link

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

there is a little countdown clock right above the map that shows how long until the first polls close.; November 02, 2008 11:55 PM
Doc Pickles said...: Here comes the future!

Thank you thank you thank you DemConWatch and Oreo and all the fantastic posters and organizers on this open thread, thank you everybody for making this site so spectacularly good and informative and "emotionally honest" over the last ten crazy months.

As bad as things sound in the news about the economy I have never felt so optimistic about America's standing in the world. For the first time in a long time the world is ready to love the USA again.

I wonder how many people have stumbled on this thread and have used it as a barometer for what the party overall might be thinking. Who knows maybe David Axelrod has been dropping in every morning to take the pulse of the faithful. This has been one of my three or four favorite sites for staying up to date on the election.

Also before the election ends I'd like to give a special shout out to StopObamaNow for your hilarious satire. Your sendup of the intellectual backwaters of the Republican party was as spot on as Tina Fey's impression of Sarah Palin. You are too funny! You should get a job writing for the Onion or the Wonkette.

Best of luck in all 50 states, especially North Carolina! Here are a dozen roses of hope for you all.; November 03, 2008 9:54 AM
Beryl said...: Just received this:

SUPERBARACK
So this is it... Just two days to go before we change the world. And we've got just the thing to lift your spirits and recharge your batteries for the home stretch.

The final chapter of The Obamacles is here...

SuperBarack!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0usWSw6CR7I; November 03, 2008 10:03 AM
Aunt Jean said...: For some reason I'm having trouble with this site is anyone else having trouble? AJ; November 03, 2008 10:50 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Beryl

I just got thru watching your linl that you sent I LOVED IT!!!!!!!! Why because we do have to come together as Americans!!!! that is what we all are!!! AJ; November 03, 2008 10:58 AM
Doc Pickles said...: The site is loading slowly today Aunt Jean. Traffic jam on the internet tubes!; November 03, 2008 11:20 AM
Aunt Jean said...: Oh Canada

I didn't even think about that but I'm sure you're right. AJ; November 03, 2008 11:26 AM
Vicki in Seattle said...: I can hardly contain myself.

This afternoon I'm gonna hold a sign on a street corner at rush hour (along with some new friends!) - in the rain and wind and 50 degree weather.

Go O and Joe '08!; November 03, 2008 12:00 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Newest items...

http://www.palinaspresident.us/

1) New item in the paper shredder.
2) New visual when you click on the light switch.
3) Palin t-shirt when you click on her.; November 03, 2008 12:20 PM
Karen Anne said...: I thought it was just my ISP Cox that was slow, and they were having technical problems at least twice in the past few days, but maybe the Innertubes are jammed :-); November 03, 2008 1:08 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Open Thread EV Contest FINAL LIST

*** MAIN CONTEST early submissions ***

JayW - 269
Beryl - 280 (51% pop.vote)
Hippolytus - 289
Dilbuck - 290
softspoken22 - 298 — (51.5% pop. vote)
Emma - 300 (1)
Aunt Jean - 300 (2) — (53% pop.vote/McCain 44%/und. 3%)
SarahLawrenceScott - 303
Richard/Rich (vtslayer) - 304 (1)
Oh Canada - 304 (2)
jean - 311
Mike in Maryland - 312
tmess2 - 315 — (O-65m/M-58m)*7
RobH - 317 (1) — (O-68m/M-58m)*10
apissedant - 317 (2) — (O-68m/M-60m)*8
Oregon Dem - 332
Leah - 345 — (O-69m/M-50m)*19
Woodland Sprite - 360
Emit R Detsaw - 429 (O-75m / 62.5% O, 33% M, 4.5% Others)
Independent voter - 538
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* * * October 'last minute' guess submissions * * *

Pablo (baby Tristan+): 306 — (50.5% B.O - 46% J.M and 4.5% other)
Mike-in-GA: 309 (+5%)
Beryl: 311 — (Obama 75m/McCain 70m – 51% to 48%)
Mike in Maryland: 344 — (O-68.5m/M-62.5m)
Aunt Jean: 347 (O-53% M-43% other-4%)
tmess2: 349
Richard/Rich (vtslayer): 364 — (51% Obama, 47% McCain, 2% Other)
Indy: 353 EV's — (Obama 49.8%, McShrub 44.6%, Other 5.6%)
(1) Oh Canada: 364
(2) RobH: 364 — (Pop vote: O=51.5% M=46.5% - 137M total votes 0=71M, McC=64M)
Leah: 372
apissedant: 375 Evs – (54% Obama, 45% McCain)
Kujo: 396
Emit R. Detsaw: 429

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The EV numbers in this contest (in the top part) were submitted several months ago and those numbers are our MAIN contest.

THIS IS THE FINAL LIST; November 03, 2008 1:19 PM
Karen Anne said...: Not just humens, kittehs for Obama -

http://yeswecanhas.com/; November 03, 2008 1:20 PM
Kujo said...: Got my tickets!!!!

Will be there early and somewhere in the 70,000 range of the stage.

:); November 03, 2008 1:20 PM
jean said...: McCain draws crowd of 1100 and Crist bolts.
HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/03/mccain-draws-small-florida-crowd-on-race%e2%80%99s-final-day/

jean:); November 03, 2008 1:22 PM
jean said...: kujo,
CONGRADS.
I am so jealous, you will be THERE,
part of history:)

jean; November 03, 2008 1:28 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Kujo-

Congrats!

How did you finally pull that off?; November 03, 2008 1:34 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: The clock above the map at

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

says... 28 hours 19 minutes until the first results are in!

Is everyone getting excited now?

I am still holding my breath, fingers crossed and praying!; November 03, 2008 1:41 PM
jean said...: Just watched HRC in MO.
Fantastic.
She is working her behind off.
There were at least 20 Agents surrounding her when she shook hands with the crowd.
I can't wait till this is over and Obama can clean up our goverment.
jean; November 03, 2008 1:45 PM
jean said...: Still no med records from Palin.
I do believe that this was fully planned for a reason and I wish someone would unravel this mystery.
Today would be nice.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/03/palin-campaign-stonewalls-on-medical-records/; November 03, 2008 2:02 PM
Doc Pickles said...: Kujo I'm so jealous! Have a cuppa hope for me.

30 hours to go...; November 03, 2008 3:38 PM
Kujo said...: While I was out of town, a co-worker organized a few from the Chicago office and found a link for requesting for tickets. She put down our office address for everyone. 4 people got tickets and each are allowed to bring a friend.

My wife is much like Aunt Jean. Was a HRC supporter who is now convinced that Obama is a much better choice then McCain. Over the last few months she listen to the message and is now a believer. We both casted our votes on the First day of early registration.

So I guess I could let her go with me.; November 03, 2008 3:40 PM
Kujo said...: I've heard on cnn today that McCain is hitting Obama on some comment he said about Coal Plants. But when I search the news (including fox) I am not seeing it hitting the news.

So I am not sure how this will play out.; November 03, 2008 3:42 PM
Pablo said...: Ya, still no release of Palin's medical records. I thought she gave the strangest comment when she said two weeks ago she would release them. "I’ve had five kids — that’s going to be in the medical records,”
Not the first thing I would think about, maybe it's nothing, but an odd thing to say.; November 03, 2008 3:59 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: McCain is on TV at a rally...

It makes my stomach turn when McCain says 'Joe the Biden'.

McCain has absolutely NO respect for people.

McCain does NOT set a good example for the younger generation.

Senator Obama and his campaign NEVER belittles McCain or Palin on a personal level.

I hope that ALL of America is fed up with the slimey tactics of the republicans and will vote all the republican bums out!

OBAMA/Biden '08; November 03, 2008 4:15 PM
jean said...: kujo,
You better take your wife LOL.
This is better than the Senior Prom.
For this historic event you should get her a corsage and maybe bring a picnic basket:)
jean; November 03, 2008 4:26 PM
Aunt Jean said...: Leah

McLame can't dampen the my great mood. Can't wait until tomorrow night. AJ

Kugo

sounds like you have a keeper for a wife there. Smart enough to vote for HRC but wise enough that she understands that Obama is just as good as a choise. AJ; November 03, 2008 4:38 PM
Independent Voter said...: OMG! My thoughts go out to the Obama family. It has just been reported that Obama's grandmother just passed.; November 03, 2008 4:38 PM
Joshua said...: May her soul rest in peace. I am glad O got to see her last week.; November 03, 2008 4:41 PM
jean said...: You know she tried to hold on to see his victory for him and the American people.
Talk about having an Angel watching over you.
Best thoughts and wishes to the Obama family.; November 03, 2008 4:46 PM
Leah Texas4Obama said...: Last night Terrence Tolbert (44 years old), the Nevada state director of the Obama campaign died of a heart attack.

Earlier today there was an article that said that the republicans have filed a 'complaint' regarding Obama using the campaign plane and funds to go and see his grandmother in Hawaii.

And now we learn that Obama's grandmother has passed away from her battle of cancer. This is a very sad day for Senator Obama. Our prayers are with Senator Obama and his family.; November 03, 2008 4:52 PM
Beryl said...: Barack Obama's grandmother just passed away.

Remember him and his family in your prayer.; November 03, 2008 4:55 PM

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