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The Republicans lost in November. Big time. Not just the Presidential race, nor the Senate and House numbers, but they lost their way. And now, as we've posted about before, they are discussing which direction they should take to "return."
Gallup polled, and found that 61% of Americans (of all parties) have a poor opinion of the Republican Party. That number is the lowest (or highest, depending on how you view it) since Gallup began asking the question.Look at the little bump. That matches up with the height of Spunky's popularity.
In case you were wondering, only 78% of the Republican party members have a positive opinion of their own party. Maybe it's just me, but perhaps those 22% percent should consider belonging to, hhhmmmnnn, a different party?
So where do Republicans want their party to go? 59% think it should become MORE conservative. There is no telling how that 59% correlates to those who approve/disapprove of their party.

While the incoming Obama administration is selecting moderates, in yesterday's selection of Waxman over Dingell for Commerce and Energy, the House took a decided step left. If the GOP moves decidedly right, and lacks the votes to overcome the majority, and the ideas of the majority work, it will be a bad 2010 and 2012 for the Republicans. They won't just lose AGAIN, but their base will shrink to wingnuts only.
Take something like environmental protection. The Democratic position is that air pollution is bad, water pollution is bad, protecting endangered species is good, and doing something about Global Warming is critical. A far-right GOP will have to sell TO THEIR PEOPLE the idea that it really is better to pollute more, it doesn't matter if species die, and Global Warming is just part of a long term pattern.
Seems if they want to remain any sort of organized party, the GOP should move to the center, jump on the bandwagon, and help to save America. But they won't. Nor will they even cling to actual Republican ideals, rather they've decided to adhere to the co-opted ones from the last 30 years that have led us to this sandy precipice on which we stand.
For those few of you who like to send me nasty personal notes questioning my dedication to, and sometimes membership in, the Democratic Party, I say this: these times we live in are uncertain and dangerous. I would rather work with moderate Republicans to find solutions than have to waste time arguing with right wing
Peter Zenger 62p · 853 weeks ago
You wrote: "Maybe it's just me, but perhaps those 22% percent should consider belonging to, hhhmmmnnn, a different party?" Well, that is why I vollunteered and voted for Obama and Jim Esch. And I wish that the party had had a viable Senate candidate in Nebraska.
As a fiscal conservative, I want to see taxes go up. I was very proud of the Clinton-Gingrich budget surplus in the late 90's. I am 32 years old, and I would rather that the baby boomers help pay for the things that they have done to this country so that I don't have to pay for all of it. I also wish the Republican party wold drop ALL of the hate regarding social issues. I am pro-choice, pro GLBT rights, and anti-Bush civil liberties abuses.
uplandpoet 69p · 853 weeks ago
Pre 1964 Republican Party. Wonder that we no longer have a home in this country for that fiscal conservative/social liberal citizen. we have the social conservative/fiscally hateful, (GOP), social liberal/ fiscal liberal, (Dems), and the social conservative/ fiscal liberal (independents who usually vote for the winning candidate/party in any given election), but you old fashioned new England republicans are pretty much ignored...
Peter Zenger 62p · 853 weeks ago
Peter Zenger 62p · 853 weeks ago
Why not quit the party? Then I couldn't vote in the primaries to try to reclaim the party for the future. I do not support fire-breathers in the primary and will not vote for them in the general.
Peter Zenger 62p · 853 weeks ago
KarenAnne 67p · 853 weeks ago
uplandpoet 69p · 853 weeks ago
good luck at running the wingnuts out of your party (of course i am what yuo would call a wingnut, trying, to take ove my party:)...)
Peter Zenger 62p · 853 weeks ago
I understand that you would prefer to see strong leftward movement in Legislation. Let me again share my list of the "sensible seven." When drafting legislation consider if all seven of these Senators will support it. If not, it could be a victim of a fillibuster in the Senate.
Baucus, Max, D-Mont.
Conrad, Kent, D-N.D.
Dorgan, Byron, D-N.D.
Johnson, Tim, D-S.D.
Landrieu, Mary, D-La.
Nelson, Ben, D-Neb.
Pryor, Mark, D-Ark.
SLCScott 74p · 853 weeks ago
Peter Zenger 62p · 853 weeks ago
Regarding registration, I would imagine it also has a lot to do with where you live. "Moderates" in the midwest are slightly more likely to be registerd as Republicans. I suppose on the coasts or in urban centers, "moderates" may register as Democrats. Again, I see a great strategic benefit to voting in primaries for the moderating force. If I lived in NYC, I could see myself being a conservative Democrat, but willing to vote for someone like Giuliani for "tough on crime" reasons.
It could also be our difference in age. At age 32, I grew up on an Air Force base during the Reagan years. Your political consciousness may have been forged during the Nixon years.
TMac · 853 weeks ago
tmess2 70p · 853 weeks ago
The problem with the Republican Party can be described by the simple fact that today's "base" Republican is more conservative than Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, or Barry Goildwater. I sometimes tell a joke here in Missouri that compared to George W. Bush and Sarah Palin, former Attorney General John Ashcroft looks like a liberal.
Growing up in the late 70s, both parties had a significant group of moderates who essentially shared the same philosophy (with the difference being one of degrees -- the Democrats favoring slightly more government involvement and slightly higher taxes and the Republicans favoring slightly smaller government) -- basically the Chamber of Commerce philosophy noted above. That centrist group isn't there any more, especially on the Republican side.
Peter Zenger 62p · 853 weeks ago
I do think progressives in the House should be careful of how far they attempt to push things to the left. First, only legislation with bipartisan support will clear the Senate. Second, keep in mind that conservatives like me (Obama Republicans) were part of his winning coaltion. Without this moderate appeal, he could have lost 264-274 [CO (9), FL (27), IN (11), NC (15), NE-2 (1), NM (5), OH (20) & VA (13)]
uplandpoet 69p · 853 weeks ago
uplandpoet 69p · 853 weeks ago
Henry Martin "Scoop" Jackson, on the other side and Daniel Patrick Moynihan and even TLB, himself, Olympia Snow, Lincoln Chafee, Shays, and many others, part of the problem moderates are good targets for the other party, look at Gordon Smith and Norm Coleman, best i can gather, both of them are more democratic in their votes than blue dog dems like my Nelson, FL, but yet we pick them off whenever we can, and the GOP does the same to our guys, so eventually you get harder and harder divided parties and then the indies stay home and wait for a reasonable alternative. i hav eoften thought a Reasonable Party that took the real middle way could win by not having to run to the base in the primaries and then try to run to the middle after the nomination and risk alienating the base that got them the nomination. think about it, if america is 38 dem, 31 gop and 31 indie, this party could get say 25 from the indies, and 10 each from the parties wins 45 with dems getting 28 and the gop getting 21. i think obama saw this and that is why he has run to the middle in philosophy the whole campaign, even as he promoted a pretty progressive agenda.
i am sure most americans support SOME abortion rights and SOME gun rights. they support the DEATH penalty in heinous cases, but would rather see low cost programs that helped prevent at risk kids from going into a life of crime, they want a strong defense, but want us to be fair in our foreign affairs, and so on.
SLCScott 74p · 853 weeks ago
Oops.
And in the elections before that one, Perot was a big factor.
So the dominance of this whole red-state/blue-state polarization is actually a recent thing.
The most difficult vote I ever made was for was Chris van Hollen over Connie Morella. Morella was the kind of moderate Republican who I might have voted for under ordinary circumstances...heck, she kept winning her solidly Democratic district in the suburbs of DC. But that was the one and only time at that level that I voted for the party and not the person. I felt GWB was a real threat to the country, and he needed to be stopped any way that we could, and putting more Democrats in Congress was part of that. So I not only voted for van Hollen, I also contributed to him. Don't get me wrong--van Hollen has been a very good member of Congress, and he was my choice in the primary. But I did feel a twinge voting against Morella, knowing that there was nothing she could have done short of changing parties that could have won my vote.
uplandpoet 69p · 853 weeks ago
MtnLvr · 853 weeks ago
Something I have not checked into yet -- Are the Udall cousins as strong on the environment as were their fathers? If so then they should be able to help the cause in the Senate.