Friday, November 21, 2008

The Morning Poll

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Instead of a poll this morning, there's a civics test.

Before you begin, here's the background:The Intercollegiate Studies Institute has run an annual survey to determine how well college students know civics. This year, they expanded their base to include just plain random American adults. In general, people know squat. To wit: 71% FAILED. The average score was 49% of the 33 questions asked.

Since you read DCW, I have high hopes that you shall not fail.

Once you take the test, it will list out which questions you got wrong (if any) and you will be able to click on the "table" link and see how your answers stacked up against the general public, and elected officials.

And no, there are no state capitols on the test. The big heartbreak for me was that slightly over 50% of those tested could not name the three branches of government.

Here's the test.

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Well, I got 87.88% :-) I was hoping for 100% :-)

I couldn't remember the exact topic of the Lincoln-Douglas debates, the other three questions I fell afoul of were about economics and business. 27, 29, and 31. I am prepared to argue with the test writers about what they think are the correct answers to those.

For example, I think international trade and specialization, if by that they mean a country loses the ability and even knowledge of how to produce goods of a certain type, will eventually lead to a decrease in a nation’s standard of living, unless we live on a planet with eternal peace and no environmental concerns about shipping.

I'll just add that this is one reason I dislike big standardized tests, some of the "correct answers" are not necessarily correct, and a student, for example, has no recourse.
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85 beat that!
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You answered 31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %

Average score for this quiz during November: 77.2%
Average score since November 20, 2008: 77.2%

seems moderately a "push poll" as well as a civics lesson. one needs to have taken a course or two in economics, not just civics.
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styossarian · 854 weeks ago

whee, 94%!
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87.88%, a bit disapointed but that a "B" isn't it. B is good.
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Sorry to be such a nerd, but since we're getting all "knowledgey", you mean state *capitals* with an "a". Capitol with the "o" refers to the building. Now I will go humiliate myself and take the civics test.
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1 reply · active 854 weeks ago
32 out of 33. That isn't that good for a liberal. :)
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31 out of 33. I sense a trend here. :)

And fess up: which did you miss? I missed the question on Puritans, and the one on "public good."
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6 replies · active 854 weeks ago
scored 87.88%, 29 of 23. I went too fast, dinner is burning...
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missed the damn puritan question and then the tax collected equals govt spending, still think they are the same thing as zero debt, but what the hey?

wonder how those red state "patriots" do? ok, ok, i got the memo, we love our redneck stupid inbred racist neighbors because we are not the red states of america and the blue states of america, but the UNITED states of america, but it is a little hard to let go of, especially given their long lorded self righteousness...:)
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2 replies · active 854 weeks ago
26 out of 33. Note that I am Canadian :p
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1 reply · active 854 weeks ago
100% for me, although I had to take educated guesses at a few of them.
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congrats church!
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31 of 33. Missed the Gettysburg Address one, and couldn't remember what So-crates believed.
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96.7%
Had no idea what FDR did in response to the courts.
But I teach Sock-ra-tees, so that was an easy one.
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10 replies · active 854 weeks ago
Oh...I agreed about the push-poll nature of the questions. I have the advantage of being a politically liberal professor who teaches philosophy to red state conservative students -- many of whom are taking business and economics from pretty conservative profs. I had to explain to a student yesterday that her paper was *begging the question* in arguing that the government should not do anything to respond to the economic crisis because then we wouldn't have a free market and the market is only a market if it is free.

She looked at me like "silly philosophy professor...economics is for conservatives"
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Guy Ruffian · 854 weeks ago

I managed to get them all except the Anti-Federalists and the tax/spending one, for a total of 93.94%. Not terrible!
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Chuck in Seattle · 854 weeks ago

4 wrong. 1 stupid mistake (read to quickly)

I'm glad others noted the push-poll nature of this quiz.
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I received a 32 of 33. 97%

27) Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
Wrong choice: property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
Correct: the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
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2 replies · active 854 weeks ago
I only got the Gettysburg address question wrong, though I 'expected' not to do so well based on how many I was unsure of. I was going to say I only know the first sentence, but when I started to recite it I realized the quote in the question was from the first sentence.
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1 reply · active 854 weeks ago
31 of 33.
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Got 31, too. Not bad for a German, you'd say. But half of it was educated guesses. They had a one-question quiz on TV while I was doing this one: in which year did Greenland leave the EU? I didn't know that one - shame on me.

I agree with you all on the economics thing. They should have used words like "generally considered." After all, it does help to know what mainstream economists believe. (I was going to say "think" - ha ha.)

Most interesting about the quiz, though, were the comments here. Quite an intellectual lot, I'd say!
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"Got 31, too. Not bad for a German" I thought you Germans demanded PERFECTION! just kidding, congratulations, you tied this native born american, and i couldnt get three out of 33 about the German democracy. except i know your freedom of speech is limited to prevent Nazism and hate speech in general. i know that the nazis were and were not democratically elected, but as far as modern germany, i am totally ignorant, and i listen to NPR faithfully:)
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2 replies · active 853 weeks ago
30/33 for a french native after 9 years in SoCal, with a few happy guesses (FDR). Otherwise, I should have read Honest Abe and Jefferson...
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You answered 29 out of 33 correctly — 87.88 %

I missed the Lincoln/Douglas debates, the Gettysburg address, the 1st Amendment (duh - totally stupid on my part - i know that), and the Socrates one. Great test - and given the initial target audience I didn't have an issue with the econ questions being there.
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