Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Senator Clinton?

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Mr. Super wrote about the choices for Hillary Clinton's replacement as junior Senator from New York. In our poll, Andrew Cuomo has a small lead over Caroline Kennedy, who has a lead over her cousin Robert.

But there may be another name thrown in the ring. You're not going to find this information elsewhere because it is a rumour. It's not even a published rumour, it's something I heard from someone who may know something under the radar.

So let's consider the possibilities. Is there any Constitutional reason that Bill could not be a Senator? No. It hasn't happened before, but one ex-President became a member of the House of Representatives.

Trivia question: name him, and cite what issue position he held and argued for, which was used by a later President on an important issue. (Answer this afternoon if no one gets it first.)

One of the reasons cited that Hillary Clinton would want to be Secretary of State is that as the junior Senator from NY, she holds no committee chair, she is low in overall seniority, and she is one of one hundred. Potentially not where she'd want to be.

One of the reasons cited against selecting Hillary for Secretary of State is Bill's business dealings around the world. It may be difficult for her to argue for military and/or geo-political concessions from a head of state who is donating to Bill's charity. Therefore, Bill may be stymied in being able to live the life he's been living since ending his presidential term.

So what is Bill going to do? It's unlikely that he'd be put up as a candidate for the Supreme Court. (The trivia question is too easy, the answer is Taft.) Not that he wouldn't be competent, but my gut says that the impeachment thing wouldn't sell. Plus, the position doesn't seem, um, active enough for him. Sure, the possibility to shape history would appeal, but on a personality level, the position is not a good fit for him. He's not going to run against David Paterson in the 2010 primary. You know that's not going to happen.

So that leaves the Senate as his best option for public service. The "one in one hundred" tag is irrelevant where Bill is concerned. For starters, the Senate is congenial place, and most people are on a first name basis. I'm betting that Bill's first name would be "Mister" and his last name would be "President". That honour never goes away. Plus, there would be absolutely no learning curve for him. Not to mention the fact that being in the club allows him to do all sorts of good work (and good works) and allows him to have an active position working with lots of people, multi-tasking, shaping policy: things he both excels at and greatly enjoys.

Would he be the best choice for the position? My personal feeling is that the seat belongs to the Kennedy's and if they want it, by rights it's theirs. Carolyn, Robert, another cousin: it's their seat. And there is something interesting about the possibilities of a Clinton going up against a Kennedy, with the recent taste of Caroline and Uncle Teddy having passed the Kennedy choice to President-elect Obama. But you never know.

Floor is open.

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Adams went in to the House, I believe.

I'm not sure why the NY seat belongs to the Kennedys. Massachusetts, yes.
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John Quincy Adams, president can abolish slavery, used by Lincoln, resulted in Emancipation Proclamation 1863
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Giving Bill something useful to do sounds like a good idea. Idle hands, etc. But is he capable of being one of many and dealing with the lesser power and long drawn out stuff of being a Senator?

I just can't imagine someone who's been disbarred being on the Supreme Court. Plus if the speculation that his behavior during the campaign was partly due to some mental impairment from his health issues is true, that would be a giant mess.

He doesn't have the gravitas of Adams or other Presidents I could imagine taking the role of selfless public servant.
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I am surprised why so many left bloggers don't want Bill in Senate (Kos poll). I don't think he will try to use his power as Senator too much IMHO he is a good and useful Democrat, not the best but better than the most!
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Sorry, but the notion that Bill Clinton would be Senator is pretty silly. For instance, what the hell does he know--or care--about the plight of upstate dairy farmers?

Also, the notion that this seat "belongs" to the Kennedys is laughable. For one thing, the Kennedy clan (historically) are not native New Yorkers. For another, the seat "belongs" to the people of the state of New York, and no one else. What we need, first and foremost, is someone who cares about statewide issues and has the experience to do something about them--not just another pretty face or celebrity name.
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Although the seat may not "belong" to the Kennedys, appointing one of them isn't a bad idea. Bill Clinton would be a decent Senator, I imagine, but Robert Kennedy, Jr. would be a great one (he's already a great American...)

And the notion that a Senator ought to first and foremost care about state issues in no ways follows from the duties of a Senator. It might be politically expedient, but the job of a Senator is to represent their state on *national* issues.
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"Coolidge was the last Ex-President to become a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. John Quincy Adams was the first Ex-President to serve in he U.S. House of Representatives."
from http://www.classroomhelp.com/lessons/Presidents/c...
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Karl Newman · 853 weeks ago

Andrew Johnson
I believe he was elected to the US Senate from Tennessee. Bill should go for it.
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Duncan Terry · 853 weeks ago

Actually, Andrew Johnson was elected Senator from Tennessee, serving briefly in 1875.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson#Post-...
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Fred from NJ · 853 weeks ago

john quincy adams and he ran on the abolitionist movement platform
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Doc- WashingtonPost had an article titled 'Send Bill Clinton to the Senate' online Wednesday morning... and yesterday I read another one but can't remember where now. I think it is ridiculous - once someone has been president they (and their whole family) should retire from government and let the new generation take over - except for the Kennedys of course ;) Hahaha!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_Unite...

Additional fun fact: John Tyler was elected to the [b]Confederate[/b] House.
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I think JQA is the only President to have served in both houses of Congress separated by the Presidency. He was in the Senate first.
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While Im not necessarily against nominating a Kennedy to the position if he or she is the most qualified, as a New Yorker, I take issue with the phrase that the NY senate seat "belongs to the Kennedy's". That seat belongs to me and the millions of other New Yorkers who vote for the person sits in it. If anything this past election has shown us that there is no such thing as entitlement when it comes to a political office. If this were the case we would likely be swearing in a new President Clinton.

Furthermore, I also dont understand how this seat would be considered a Kennedy seat more than any other family. RFK was only senator for 3 years, making him one of the shortest inhabitants of the position. (I of course realize the terrible terms under which he left the seat.) If anything Chelsea Clinton has more of a claim on the seat, considering her mother has served for the better part of a decade.
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You actually forgot someone. President Andrew Johnson, President Lincoln's successor, was elected by the Tennessee Legislature to serve in the United States Senate after he left the Presidency
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