Saturday, June 28, 2008

DCW Presidential Forecast - June 28

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This is the DemConWatch Presidential Forecast, a summary of the best election projections on the web. Please also check out our Senate Forecast, and the House Forecast will be introduced later this month.

Update 6/28: Latest projection: Obama leads 301-237, up 2 from the last forecast of 299-239. 538.com made another major change to its algorithm, assuming that the race will naturally tighten. This had the effect of bringing Obama's state numbers down across the board and changed their estimate of Obama's EVs from 344 to 310, and 538.com is no longer an outlier on the Obama side. But this was balanced out and more by movement towards Obama in a number of states in different projections, especially in GA, MI, MN, TX and WI, giving Obama an overall +2 EVs on average. A history chart is at the bottom of this post.

Map showing consensus of sources. This table will show a state Blue or Red if a majority of the sources show it Leaning or Solid for that candidate. Changes: MI moves to Obama, NC moves to McCain.

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Unanimous solid states, not shown in the table below:
Solid Obama: CA, DC, HI, IL, MD, NY, RI, VT - 131 EVs.
Solid McCain: AL, ID, KY, OK, TN, UT, WY - 47 EVs

The sources are sorted by each projection's estimate of Obama's Electoral Votes (Algorithm determined below). The states are sorted by the number of electoral votes.

DCW General Election Tracker
State
EVsElect. Proj.Open LeftEV.
com
538.comRCPRMCNNNBCFHQ....
Date

6/276/286/286/286/286/286/276/56/25
Obama (O)

207194172203146200153153153
Obama-Lean (OL)

779957909284784754
Tossup (T)

95771532913714113138129
McCain-Lean (ML)

898385867066698471
McCain (M)

70857112793174125116131
Obama Total

284293229293238284231200207
McCain Total

159168156213163240194200202
Obama Est.

334328311310302287286276275

Texas
34MLMLMLMMLMMMM
Florida
27TTTMLTMLTTML
Pennsylvania
21OLOLTOLOLOLOLTT
Ohio
20OLOLTOLTOLTTT
Michigan
17OLOLOLOLTOLTTT
Georgia
15TMLTMLMLMMLMLML
New Jersey
15OOOLOOLOOLOLOL
N. Carolina
15TTTMLTMLMLMLML
Virginia
13TTTTTMLTTT
Massachusetts
12OOOOOOOOOL
Indiana
11MLMLMLTTMMLMLT
Missouri
11TTTMLTMLTMLT
Washington
11OOOOOLOOLOLO
Arizona
10MLMMMMMMMM
Minnesota
10OOOLOOLOOLOLOL
Wisconsin
10OOLOOOLOLOLTT
Colorado
9TOLTOLTTTTT
Louisiana
9MLMMLMLMLMMLMLM
S. Carolina
8MLMLMLMMMMMML
Conn.
7OOTOOLOOOO
Iowa
7OLOLOLOLOLOLTTOL
Oregon
7OLOLTOLOLOOLOLOL
Arkansas
6MLMMLMMMMLMLM
Kansas
6MMLMMMMMMM
Mississippi
6MLMLMLMMLMMMLM
Nebraska
5MMMMMMMMLM
Nevada
5TTTTTTTTT
New Mexico
5OLOLOLOLTOLMLTT
W. Virginia
5MLMMLMMMMLMM
Maine
4OOOOOLOOLOLO
NH
4OOOOLTOLTTT
Alaska
3MTTMLMLMMMML
Delaware
3OOLOLOOOOOOL
Montana
3MMLMLMMLMMLMLML
N. Dakota
3MTMLMLMMMMLT
S. Dakota
3MMMMLMMMMM


Elect. Proj.Open LeftEV.
com
538.comRCPRMCNNNBCFHQ....












































































Notes:
538 - FiveThirtyEight - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong (O or M), Lean to Lean (OL or ML), Tossup to Tossup (T)
CNN - Safe mapped to Strong, Leaning to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
Elect. Proj. - Election Projection - Solid and Strong mapped to Strong, Moderate to Lean, Weak to Tossup
EV.com - Electoral-Vote.com - Strong mapped to Strong, Weak to Lean, Barely and Tossup to Tossup
FHQ -
FrontLoading HQ - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup (Dem and Rep) to Tossup
NBC - Base mapped to strong,
Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
OpenLeft - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RM - Rasmussen - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RCP - RealClearPolitics - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup

Here are the states that span 3 categories.
  • Alaska: 2 at Tossup, 4 at McCain-Strong. Rasmussen's own poll shows McCain only up by 4, yet they still have AK as Likely-Republican, which we convert to McCain-Strong.
  • Connecticut: Only Electoral-vote.com having it as a toss-up - that likely won't last. The only poll in the last 3 months showed Obama at +3 in late May.
  • Georgia: 2 at Tossup, Rasmussen still has it as McCain-Strong.
  • Indiana: Rasmussen again the holdout at McCain-Strong.
  • Minnesota: With Survey USA out on June 16 with a poll showing Obama only up by 1, CNN's projection of a Tossup doesn't look like as much of an outlier. CNN moves to Obama-Lean.
  • Montana: 538 now has it as a Tossup. 2 Projections have it as Strong-McCain. Last poll was in April.
  • New Hampshire: Three projections have this former? battleground state at Obama-Strong.
  • New Mexico: Five projections have it as Obama-Lean, CNN has it at McCain-Lean. Two recent polls show Obama up by 3 and 8 points.
  • North Dakota - Two have it as tossup - that won't last. Or will it? There hasn't been a state poll in ND since April.
  • Oregon - One of the few Obama states that seems to be closing, with Obama only up by 3 in the latest SurveyUSA poll. 1 Tossup, 1 Obama-Strong.
  • South Dakota: 538 has it as Tossup.
  • Virgina (New): 538 has it as Obama-Lean, Rasmussen at McCain-Lean
  • West Virginia: 538 has it as Tossup.
  • Wisconsin: Electoral-Vote.com is the first to move this former battleground state to Obama-Strong.
We're purposely ignoring Maine and Nebraska CD splits for now to keep things simple. We'll add them in later if we need to.

The overall projection is just a straight average of each projections' estimate of Electoral Votes (EVs) for each candidate. For each projection other than FiveThirtyEight, we give Obama 100% of the EVs in a state that is solid for him, 80% of the EVs for a leaner, 50% of the EVs for a Tossup, 20% of the EVs for state that is McCain-Lean, and 0% of the Solid McCain states. Exact opposite for McCain. For FiveThirtyEight, we use their overall estimate of Obama's EVs, not the state-by-state categories.


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It is good to see the shift towards Obama in some of the latest polls. I wonder if there is anyway we could categorize polls based off of whether or not they poll cell phones or not. It would be interesting to see how many polls obama has a lead in that don't poll cell phones considering that the percentage of the population that only have cell phones and no land line would be younger and leaning towards obama.
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We should all email Chuck Todd at MSNBC and ask him to add an electoral projection map to their website.
Over three weeks without them updating is a bit ridiculous!
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Also, I know this is not the right forum for this but I am new here so i am not sure what is, but do we have a forum to discuss Vice Presidential candidates on this site?
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Matt - Thank you for putting up the new Obama / McCain graph :)
DCW ROCKS ;)
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As I said over at my blog earlier -- what the hell at CNN with New Mexico. Seriously, lean-McCain? You can't adjust your ratings once every couple of weeks with that huge budget you have?
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Matt - The link at the top left was better when it was called General Election Tracker.
Presidential Forecast sounds like it has something to do with the weather! LOL.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

RCP has some methodology problems. They apparently categorize states based on their polling average. But this has created two problems:

1) In many cases they don't have enough polls to create an average. They won't, for instance, create an average until they have three different pollsters.

2) They don't use the averages for some states even when they have created them. It looks to me like these are states that they didn't expect to be competitive, so they didn't put them on the list underneath their map. But as far as I can tell, Arizona and Kansas should be leaning McCain by their criteria, but they have them as solid.

I've emailed their webmaster about point 2. We'll see if they fix it. (I'm not suggesting DCW overrule their own rankings! I just thought some readers might want to be aware that some of their projections are kind of arbitrary.)

Point 1 just has to be lived with, I think. Those are states that most of the sources are just guessing on anyway.
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Matt - on 538 Florida is a Toss-up but you have it listed here as ML for them.
What's up with that?
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FHQ has updated their projection this evening, moving 4 states in Obama's direction: MN to Obama-Strong, MS to McCain-Lean, TX to McCain-Lean and WI to Obama-Lean. This moves their overall number to 288. We'll include this in the next update.
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MATT - Be sure to read the article titled "Why Can't The Networks Read Polls?"
at http://dailykos.com/
on the front page.
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Elect.Projection, OpenLeft, Electoral-Vote, 538, and Rasmussen all have June 30 Updates :)
Is DCW updating tonight? :)
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

Connecticut and Massachusetts are both likely to go off the board shortly. Both have had decisive polls recently.
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Please dump NBC if they won't update their map - it skews everyone else's data. Come on Chucky T, get er dun!

BTW, it looks like Obama has brought Florida back into play. Based on my use of RCP polling data, Obama has 272 EVs (solid and leaning) before you even consider the seven tossups (NV, MO, MI, IN, NH, VA FL - 88 EVs). That is a strong map for my man!

Thanks for the history graph!
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Um, Leah, 538 is not so much polls as polls plus projections based on an elaborate (and cool) set of demographic statistical models. Nate proved himself far more apt than many of the professional pollsters during the primary period. Consider giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Also -- general comment -- an individual poll in and of itself is not all that meaningful. Besides only using land lines, there are issues with leaners, how far the poll pushes, where they acquired their call lists, whether the answers were rotated, the order of the questions, what lead-ins were used, AND WHO PAID FOR THE POLL.

We're something like 16 weeks out from the election, and Obama is still defining himself to the parts of America who haven't "met" him yet, either because they had another pony in the D race, or they were not yet paying attention to ANY race. ALL the numbers will be more reliable once we hit Labour Day. For now, they are too fluid to depend on because most people outside the political junkies and party faithful have not yet made up their minds.
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First Read on MSNBC is going on vacation until next Monday morning. So it looks like there won't be any updates from them any time soon ;(
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

Connecticut not officially off the board yet, then. EV should have it strong Obama tomorrow.
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New post is up.
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