Friday, June 20, 2008

General Election Tracker - June 20

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This is the DemConWatch General Election Tracker, a summary of the best election projections on the web. We will be introducing our Senate tracker over the weekend, and the House tracker later this month.

Update 6/20: DCW Obama Index (explanation below): 298 304 (was 295), the first time the Index has moved over 300. (Calculation error)

First, by popular demand, we added RealClearPolitics, and, we also removed NPR, as they weren't updating their projection.

Second, we saw more major movement for Obama, highlighted by two projections moving Alaska, yes Alaska, to Tossup, one projection moving Georgia to Tossup, two projections moving New Hampshire to Solid Obama, and other movement.

What is the Obama Index? The Overall DCW Obama Index is just a straight average of the Obama Index for each projection. What is the Obama Index for each projection? For all projections other than FiveThirtyEight, the Obama Index gives Obama 100% of the Electoral Votes (EVs) in a state that is solid for him, 80% of the EVs for a leaner, 50% of the EVs for a Tossup, and 20% of the EVs for state that is McCain-Lean. (And obviously 0% of the Solid McCain states). For FiveThirtyEight, we use his overall estimate of Obama's EVs. (See below for how we determine FiveThirtyEight's state projections).

Map showing consensus of sources. This table will show a state Blue or Red if a majority of the sources show it Leaning or Solid for that candidate. Changes: New Hampshire moves from Tossup to Obama, and North Carolina moves from McCain to Tossup.

<p><strong>><a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/electoral-college/'>Electoral College Prediction Map</a></strong> - Predict the winner of the general election. Use the map to experiment with winning combinations of states. Save your prediction and send it to friends.</p>


Unanimous solid states, not shown in the table below:
Solid Obama: CA, DC, HI, IL, MD, NY, RI, VT - 131 EVs. (Note, newly added RCP has CA as Obama-Lean. For now, I'm not adding CA to the table - we'll see if RCP stays at this projection)
Solid McCain: AL, ID, KY (added), OK, UT, WY - 36 EVs

The sources are sorted by each projections Obama Index. The states are sorted by the number of electoral votes.

DCW General Election Tracker
State
EVs538.comElect. Proj.EV.
com
Open LeftRCPRMCNNNBCFHQ....
Date

6/206/186/206/206/206/206/176/56/18
Obama (O)

19016119316991200153153153
Obama-Lean (OL)

1031234210714784584754
Tossup (T)

99801479113714133138129
McCain-Lean (ML)

1105551466766698456
McCain (M)

3311910512596174125116146
Obama Total

293284235276238284211200207
McCain Total

143174156171163240194200202
Obama Index

344310310309291287280276272

Texas
34MLMMMMLMMMM
Florida
27TTTTTMLTTML
Pennsylvania
21OLOLOOLOLOLOLTT
Ohio
20OLOLTOLTOLTTT
Michigan
17OLOLTTTOLTTT
Georgia
15MLMTMLMLMMLMLM
New Jersey
15OOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL
N. Carolina
15TTTTTMLMLMLML
Virginia
13TTTTTMLTTT
Massachusetts
12OOOOOOOOOL
Indiana
11TMMLMLTMMLMLT
Missouri
11TTTTTMLTMLT
Tennessee
11MLMLMMMMMMM
Washington
11OOOOOLOOLOLO
Arizona
10MLMLMMMMMMM
Minnesota
10OLOLOLOLOLOTOLOL
Wisconsin
10OLOLOOLOLOLTTT
Colorado
9OLTTOLTTTTT
Louisiana
9MLMLMLMMLMMLMLM
Kentucky
8MMMMMMMMM
S. Carolina
8MLMLMLMLMMMMML
Conn.
7OOLTOOLOOOO
Iowa
7OLOLOLOLOLOLTTOL
Oregon
7OOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL
Arkansas
6MLMLMLMMMMLMLM
Kansas
6MLMMMLMMMMM
Mississippi
6MLMLMLMMLMMMLM
Nebraska
5MLMMMMMMMLM
Nevada
5TTTTTTTTT
New Mexico
5OLOLTOLTOLMLTT
W. Virginia
5TMLMLMMMMLMM
Maine
4OOOOOLOOLOLO
NH
4OLOLOOTOLTTT
Alaska
3TMTMLMMMMML
Delaware
3OOOLOLOOOOOL
Montana
3TMMLMLMLMMLMLML
N. Dakota
3TMMLTMMMMLT
S. Dakota
3TMMMMMMMM


538.comElect. Proj.EV.
com
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Notes:
538 - FiveThirtyEight
Elect. Proj. - Election Projection
EV.com - Electoral-Vote.com
RM - Rasmussen
RCP - RealClearPolitics

Here are the states that span 3 categories.
  • Alaska (NEW): Two projections amazingly move Alaska to Tossup.
  • Connecticut: Only Electoral-vote.com having it as a toss-up - that likely won't last. The only poll in the last 3 months showed Obama at +3 in late May.
  • Georgia: (NEW): Electoral-Vote.com moves it to Tossup, based on the InsiderAdvantage poll
  • Indiana: Three sources have it as a toss-up, but 2 sources have it as Strong McCain. If Obama can keep this state in McCain-Lean, that's a good sign in a state that Kerry lost by 21%.
  • Minnesota: With Survey USA just out with a poll showing Obama only up by 1, CNN's projection of a Tossup doesn't look like as much of an outlier.
  • New Hampshire: Two projections move this former? battleground state to Obama-Strong.
  • New Mexico: Four projections have it as Obama-Lean, CNN has it at McCain-Lean. There hasn't been a poll here since mid-May.
  • North Dakota - Two have it as tossup - that won't last. Or will it? There hasn't been a state poll in ND since April.
  • South Dakota (NEW): 538 moves it to Tossup.
  • West Virginia (NEW): 538 moves it to Tossup.
  • Wisconsin (NEW): Electoral-Vote.com is the first to move this former battleground state to Obama-Strong.
We're purposely ignoring Maine and Nebraska CD splits for now to keep things simple. We'll add them in later if we need to.

The Obama Index gives Obama 100% of the EVs in a state that is solid for them, 80% of the EVs for a leaner, 50% of the EVs for a Tossup, and 20% of the EVs for state that is McCain-Lean.

FiveThirtyEight state projections determined from state winning percentage (>90%: Strong, 65-90%: Lean, 50-65%: Tossup). Overall number based on FiveThirtyEight simulation.
giving McCain a 1 pt lead. It's only one poll...

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Matt you are great as always :)

Btw.. the RCP at the top of the chart is a dead link.
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fixed,thanks.
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4294967295 replies · active 879 weeks ago
Okay, now I am ready to see Texas, Alaska, and Georgia to turn into Toss-Up states! This is soooo exciting - it's going to be hard to wait four months to see how all the states end up ;)
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I really think that many of the polls that these predictions are based on are underestimating the Obama vote. They operate on this criteria of "likely voters". But I think we'll see a turnout of an enormous number of voters from demographics that we haven't seen since Kennedy/Nixon. Though a part of me wants to be cynical, there's another part that's half expecting a landslide for Obama.
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It would be nice to have the labels for which org in a row at the bottom of each column as well, so we don't have to keep scrolling up and down to see what each column is.
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1 reply · active 879 weeks ago
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uplandpoet · 879 weeks ago

It is beginning to look like a groundswell! i know the GOP has 4 months to find every piece of dirt there is and to continue to make up mor eand more crap, but i see america finally waking up to the "GOPbage"!!! Obama, if he wins Texas and Alaska and maybe breaks deep into the old south with a carolina, virginia or georgia... or all three, the southern strategy of depending on southerners to hate black people may finally either be dead or waning!!! maybe the america most of us hope for could be coming....okay, take a breath, but at least it looks like we might make the 270 mark! i would settle for that!!!!!
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Believe me, I'm as hopeful for an Obama presidency as anyone. But talk of victory, much less landslides, certainly seems a bit premature. Yes, I realize that polls serve as a "snapshot" of what voters are thinking at any given time, and are not meant to be predictive. Still, a few things give me pause:

1) Aggregatated forecasts and predictions are fun, to be sure. But some of these poll numbers are months old, and therefore keeping a "complete," 50-state running tally is inherently misleading -- it presents up-to-date data alongside woefully outdated information, giving the appearance that all of it is equally valid when it is obviously not. Moreover, polling results this far ahead of the election are notoriously unreliable (remember the lead Dukakis had back in June, 1988?). Providing a national estimate of electoral votes based on 50 unreliable sets of polling data merely serves to multiply the built-in margin of error 50 times, to the point where aggregates are essentially meaningless.

2) Take a look at the sources above, arranged in descending order of potential Obama EV. I can't help but notice that the more generous estimates come from the most partisan, pro-Obama sites, while the mainstream media offers lower numbers. Could be coincidence, but... isn't it possible that some of us are victims of a little "irrational exuberance?" It certainly seems to me that there's a bit of a "wishful thinking" factor at work here.

3) I really appreciate what Nate over at 538.com has been doing for the last several months, but I think he might be the most irrationally exuberant of all. I'll believe that Missouri, Virginia, and Indiana have voted Democratic when I see the numbers on November 4th. And I won't even mention some of the other "toss-up" states.

I live in Iowa, and am a registered Democrat. I caucused for Obama back in January, I rooted for him (and donated to his campaign) during the primary schedule, and I am very much looking forward to casting my vote for him in November. But I fear that we're getting ahead of ourselves -- there are still several months before then, and I really believe that McCain and the GOP are going to make things ugly at some point along that road. The *worst* thing any Democrat or Obama supporter can do now is to get complacent, and to start celebrating prematurely. Let's take these EV maps and aggregated polls with the grain of salt they deserve, and enjoy them for the entertainment value they offer. But let's never, not for a minute, forget that this isn't anywhere close to being done, and that there is still an awful lot of work to do.

That said, I hope to have some kind of party on November 5th.

Peace,

Stanley (Cedar Rapids, IA)
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Regarding the 'Obama Index' I see no logic behind it. What is the logic of giving Obama a percentage of the EVs in the toss up states (since we don't know which way they will go) and even a percentage of McCains states when in the General Election it is winner take all (except for NE and ME). I could see doing an Index for the Dem primary where the delegates are proportional but I really can't see why this is being done for the General Election - or am I missing something ??? So it seems to me the Index number is useless and the total number of EVs from the states that are 'solid' and 'leaning' is the only number that really matters.
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Leah - The Obama Index gives an overall indication of where all the Electoral Vote Projections stand. With states moving from Tossup to Lean, and Lean to Strong, its difficult to get an overall handle on where the election stands. Thats what the number provides. When it gets real close to the election, then, yes the states are winner-take-all, and all that matters is which way the states fall. But until then, this gives a good overall view of the state of the race. Think of it another way. Look at all the obsession with national polls. They're actually worthless, aren't they, since this is 50 state elections, not 1 general elections. But people use them to get a overall view of the race. The Obama Index is the same thing.
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1 reply · active 879 weeks ago
Don't worry, what would DCW be without graphs! And I actually have some historical information, so we'll be able to go back in time a couple of months too. Senate Tracker is now up, House Tracker is next, then we'll start doing the graphs.
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Gawly! What haz you people done to the place? Y'all clean up real nice after a tough primary. Just popped in to see what's cooking and kapowie. Howdy gang.
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Good news Matt. I believe there will be 1 or 2 New Mexico Polls coming out later this week. (According to a few websites, they will be from Rasmussen and SUSA)
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Karen Anne · 879 weeks ago

There seems to be a startling difference between RCP and the other sites What's with that...
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The index should have some standard baseline to compare to. Great job!
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1 reply · active 879 weeks ago
http://www.electionprojection.com/president08.sht...

Election Projection updated late Sunday night.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 879 weeks ago

Great job, Matt et al!

Leah--here's my explanation for the logic behind the Obama Index. "Toss-up" means we don't know which way the state will go, right? But it will certainly go one way or the other. So assume half of the toss-up states go one way, and half the other way. But of course states aren't worth equal numbers of electoral votes. OK--so assume states worth half the number of electoral votes go one way, and half the other way. Likewise, a McCain lean means we think the state will go to McCain, but we might be wrong. So if there are five McCain lean states, maybe we're wrong on one. But which one? Instead, take 20% of the electoral votes from the McCain leaners, and assign them to Obama. Does it represent a number that could actually happen? No, because each individual state is winner take all (except Nebraska and Maine). But does it represent a sort of "average" result implied by that source's evaluation? Yes, more or less.

Of course, as Stanley points out, there's a lot of road between now and November. In my mind, projections at this point tell us two (related) things:

1) What does an Obama (or McCain) victory look like in terms of states? What does a landslide for either look like in terms of states?

2) Which states are the "battlegrounds"?

The interesting thing this time around is that Obama does seem to be "expanding the map." My two questions don't seem to be answered very well right now. For example, let's consider how Obama could achieve a fairly decisive electoral college victory (say in the 300-330 EV range). How would it happen? One way would be to get a bunch of those McCain-lean states in the South (presumably in part through a high African-American turnout). Another way is to get all of the traditional swing states: Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Michigan, etc.. Yet another is to pull a surprise in the sparsely populated western states, perhaps aided by Barr's candidacy: Alaska, Montana, the Dakotas, along with Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado. Any of those are possible based on the current projections, and it's not really clear which is most likely. I'll be watching these projections as they evolve to see how these (and other scenarios) start to play out--for example, do the southern states start to move more firmly into McCain's camp, while the traditional battlegrounds go toward Obama?

But like baseball standings in May, I don't think the total right now tells us much, although it's fun to "root." This election could easily end up with anything from a moderately decisive McCain win to an Obama blowout. (The one thing it's hard to imagine is a McCain blowout--in what world does he win the big blue states that Reagan won in his second term, like New York, Illinois, and California? It's not going to happen.)

Stay tuned...
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The link for Open Left is out of date. The link on the heading takes you to June 16th. DCW has info for June 20th for Open Left. The current map at Open Left is for June 23rd. If Open Left has a new link everytime they update their page then maybe DCW should just use the main page link for the heading. Anyway I don't know .. but it is something to look at and think about.
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This looks like the right link for ALL of the Open Left projection maps:

http://www.openleft.com/tag.do?tag=Presidential%2...
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uplandpoet · 879 weeks ago

What! 4 days without an update? you know once you create a junkie, you have to feed the habit! Do you folks have lives or something? i am dying to see if the new nation poll bumps are reflected in the EV trends...
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uplandpoet · 879 weeks ago

love the senate index!, you know, once you get it and the house and the graphs, you could go for govs and state houses and.....:)
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RCP has update, time to do the same!
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We're ready for our DCW General Election Tracker Update FIX !!! :)
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