Tuesday, June 24, 2008

General Election Tracker - June 24

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This is the DemConWatch General Election Tracker, a summary of the best election projections on the web. Please also check out our Senate Tracker, and the House tracker will be introduced later this month.

Update 6/24: DCW Obama Index (explanation below) goes up 1 to 299. Various projections moved pro-Obama and pro-McCain. (Previous erroneous comment about OpenLeft removed - wrong data was included).

Map showing consensus of sources. This table will show a state Blue or Red if a majority of the sources show it Leaning or Solid for that candidate.

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Unanimous solid states, not shown in the table below:
Solid Obama: CA, DC, HI, IL, MD, NY, RI, VT - 131 EVs. (Note, newly added RCP has CA as Obama-Lean. For now, I'm not adding CA to the table - we'll see if RCP stays at this projection)
Solid McCain: AL, ID, KY (added), OK, UT, WY - 36 EVs

The sources are sorted by each projections Obama Index. The states are sorted by the number of electoral votes.

DCW General Election Tracker
State
EVs538.comElect. Proj.Open LeftEV.
com
RCPRMCNNNBCFHQ....
Date

6/246/246/246/246/246/246/186/56/22
Obama (O)

18318716917291200153153153
Obama-Lean (OL)

123971074014784584754
Tossup (T)

86809117013714133138129
McCain-Lean (ML)

1107046517066698471
McCain (M)

3310412510593174125116131
Obama Total

306284276212238284211200207
McCain Total

143174171156163240194200202
Obama Index

344319309299291287280276275

Texas
34MLMMMMLMMMM
Florida
27TTTTTMLTTML
Pennsylvania
21OLOLOLTOLOLOLTT
Ohio
20OLOLOLTTOLTTT
Michigan
17OLOLTTTOLTTT
Georgia
15MLMLMLTMLMMLMLML
New Jersey
15OOOLOLOLOOLOLOL
N. Carolina
15TTTTTMLMLMLML
Virginia
13OLTTTTMLTTT
Massachusetts
12OOOOOOOOOL
Indiana
11TMMLMLTMMLMLT
Missouri
11TTTTTMLTMLT
Tennessee
11MLMLMMMMMMM
Washington
11OOOOOLOOLOLO
Arizona
10MLMLMMMMMMM
Minnesota
10OLOLOLOLOLOTOLOL
Wisconsin
10OLOLOLOOLOLTTT
Colorado
9OLTOLTTTTTT
Louisiana
9MLMLMMLMLMMLMLM
Kentucky
8MMMMMMMMM
S. Carolina
8MLMLMLMLMMMMML
Conn.
7OOOTOLOOOO
Iowa
7OLOLOLOLOLOLTTOL
Oregon
7OLOLOLTOLOOLOLOL
Arkansas
6MLMLMMLMMMLMLM
Kansas
6MLMMLMMMMMM
Mississippi
6MLMLMMLMLMMMLM
Nebraska
5MLMMMMMMMLM
Nevada
5TTTTTTTTT
New Mexico
5OLOLOLOLTOLMLTT
W. Virginia
5TMLMMLMMMLMM
Maine
4OOOOOLOOLOLO
NH
4OLOOOTOLTTT
Alaska
3TMMLTMLMMMML
Delaware
3OOOLOLOOOOOL
Montana
3TMMLMLMLMMLMLML
N. Dakota
3TMTMLMMMMLT
S. Dakota
3TMMMMMMMM


538.comElect. Proj.Open LeftEV.
com
RCPRMCNNNBCFHQ....










































































Notes:
538 - FiveThirtyEight
Elect. Proj. - Election Projection
EV.com - Electoral-Vote.com
RM - Rasmussen
RCP - RealClearPolitics

Here are the states that span 3 categories.
  • Alaska: 2 at Tossup, 4 at McCain-Strong. Rasmussen's own poll shows McCain only up by 4, yet they still have AK as Likely-Republican, which we convert to McCain-Strong.
  • Connecticut: Only Electoral-vote.com having it as a toss-up - that likely won't last. The only poll in the last 3 months showed Obama at +3 in late May.
  • Georgia: Electoral-Vote.com moves it to Tossup, based on the InsiderAdvantage poll
  • Indiana: Three sources have it as a toss-up, but 2 sources have it as Strong McCain. But new SurveyUSA poll out today gives Obama a 1 pt lead.
  • Minnesota: With Survey USA out on June 16 with a poll showing Obama only up by 1, CNN's projection of a Tossup doesn't look like as much of an outlier.
  • Montana (NEW): 538 now has it as a Tossup. 2 Projections have it as Strong-McCain. Last poll was in April.
  • New Hampshire: Three projections move this former? battleground state to Obama-Strong.
  • New Mexico: Five projections have it as Obama-Lean, CNN has it at McCain-Lean. There hasn't been a poll here since mid-May. Two recent polls show Obama up by 3 and 8 points.
  • North Dakota - Three have it as tossup - that won't last. Or will it? There hasn't been a state poll in ND since April.
  • Oregon (NEW) - One of the few Obama states that seems to be closing, with Obama only up by 3 in the latest SurveyUSA poll. 1 Tossup, 1 Obama-Strong.
  • South Dakota: 538 has it as Tossup.
  • Virgina (New): 538 has it as Obama-Lean, Rasmussen at McCain-Lean
  • West Virginia: 538 has it as Tossup.
  • Wisconsin: Electoral-Vote.com is the first to move this former battleground state to Obama-Strong.
We're purposely ignoring Maine and Nebraska CD splits for now to keep things simple. We'll add them in later if we need to.

What is the Obama Index? The Overall DCW Obama Index is just a straight average of the Obama Index for each projection. What is the Obama Index for each projection? For all projections other than FiveThirtyEight, the Obama Index gives Obama 100% of the Electoral Votes (EVs) in a state that is solid for him, 80% of the EVs for a leaner, 50% of the EVs for a Tossup, and 20% of the EVs for state that is McCain-Lean. (And obviously 0% of the Solid McCain states). For FiveThirtyEight, we use his overall estimate of Obama's EVs. (See below for how we determine FiveThirtyEight's state projections).


FiveThirtyEight state projections determined from state winning percentage (>90%: Strong, 65-90%: Lean, 50-65%: Tossup). Obama Index for 538 based on FiveThirtyEight simulation.

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Since NBC hasn't updated in over two weeks, in my opinion, they shouldn't be considered when you tally what the consensus is for each state.
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The majority have New Mexico for Obama - it really should be Blue on the map :)

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Glad to know your checking so carefully. Because CNN still has it as McCain-Lean, I arbitrarily considered that worth 2 Tossups, so NM will stay as a Consensus Tossup for now.
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In the text above in post it says for New Mexico 'There hasn't been a poll here since mid-May' .... that is no longer correct. June 24th there was a poll. New Mexico: McCain vs. Obama - Rasmussen - Obama 47, McCain 39 Obama +8.0
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Ooops RCP posted the New Mexico poll on June 24th, but the Rasmussen poll was 'taken' 06/18 - 06/18
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SarahLawrence Scott · 878 weeks ago

The Obama campaign has said it will focus on the following states:

Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Iowa, New Mexico, Ohio, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Georgia, Alaska, and part of Nebraska.

(Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11320_P...

This is interesting; it matches the Tracker pretty well. A few items worth noting:

--Minnesota and Oregon aren't on the list. The campaign is confident enough not to consider them battlegrounds. Hopefully that's not too confident.

--The McCain leaning Appalachian states are not on the list. That's not a surprise to me.

--A lot of the Deep South states aren't on the list.

--Arkansas isn't on the list.

If you really want to read between the lines, this might give some indication of what they're thinking about for VP...
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Sarah, Don't read too much into those "target" states. They only indicate where the BO campaign has chosen to buy early TV ads. They have their ground game going on in all 50 states,and will change their ad buys as time goes on. Also consider that some of these may be head fakes to get the McCain camp to commit their resources.

Matt, Can you start a historical Obama index graph? My tracking so far shows a slow steady improvement in Obama's polling. It has gone from a dead heat after he became the presumptive nominess to a 101 electoral vote lead with no tossup states if you just use the RCP numbers. Keep up the good work.
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The real issue is not how well Obama or McCain might do in the closely divided battleground states, but that we shouldn't have battleground states and spectator states in the first place. Every vote in every state should be politically relevant in a presidential election. And, every vote should be equal. We should have a national popular vote for President in which the White House goes to the candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral vote -- that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Because of state-by-state enacted rules for winner-take-all awarding of electoral votes, recent candidates with limited funds have concentrated their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. Two-thirds of the visits and money were focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money went to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people are merely spectators to the presidential election.

Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.

The National Popular Vote bill has been approved by 19 legislative chambers (one house in Colorado, Arkansas, Maine, North Carolina, and Washington, and two houses in Maryland, Illinois, Hawaii, California, Rhode Island, and Vermont). It has been enacted into law in Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These states have 50 (19%) of the 270 electoral votes needed to bring this legislation into effect.

See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
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SarahLawrence Scott · 878 weeks ago

Susan--this runs the risk of becoming a conversation between us across multiple blogs, but since the last time you posted this somewhere I went to the site you give and read the eight-page summary.

In my opinion, this proposal is poorly conceived. The problem is that it does not ensure that the candidate favored by the majority would be elected, but rather than that favored by the plurality. I can't think of a major political system that guarantees the winner of the plurality to be the winner. Direct election systems use run-offs, a few systems use "instant run-offs," and parliamentary systems use coalitions. Our current system already comes perilously close to a system that elects the winner of a plurality; indeed, that's what's happened in many recent elections.

Why is that a problem? Because plurality-based systems run the risk of having a candidate with strong but narrow appeal win over those who would govern the whole country. If four broadly acceptable candidates split the vote, for instance, a candidate with only 20% support could win. Don't think that could happen here? The National Popular Vote proposal is a change that might encourage that kind of election. If we had one now, for instance, couldn't you imagine Bloomberg, Paul, and others joining the race? And in such an election we might end up very far from the people's choice.

Could that happen under our current system? Yes--in a sense it has, with both Bush and Clinton winning their first terms without getting a majority. But it's harder to imagine a really narrowly focused candidate winning, because it's much harder to imagine most states splitting in such a way so as to favor the same narrow candidate. More likely, different states would go different ways, and we =don't= give the Presidency to someone with a plurality of electoral votes.

A real popular vote system needs to have a run-off provision of some form, and that probably requires a constitutional amendment. I'm opposed to that for other reasons, but at least it doesn't suffer from the plurality problem.

--Scott
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1 reply · active 878 weeks ago
RCP has updated their map. California has gone solid Obama there now.
Obama 146 Solid 92 Leaning
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The source heading at the bottom of the chart differs from the heading at the top of the chart. I figure it is because you are coping an original template that is incorrect or when the column order is changed when the index is updated the bottom heading is not tied to the top heading and therefore doesn't change as it should. Anyway something is wrong.
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2 replies · active 878 weeks ago
Matt - Down in the notes section next to EACH source link can you please add what constitutes a OL/ML state for each source -- because DCW has only THREE categories: Solid, Lean, TossUp and other sources have FOUR categories.
For example Election Projection has FOUR categories Solid, Strong, Mod, Weak. But for Election Projection DCW shows Texas as SOLID for McCain and Michigan and Wisconsin as LEANER s--- but on the Election Projection site all three are considered 'Strong' . The 'solids' and 'tossups' are easy to figure out but I am not sure what the heck ya'll are doing with the rest. Does that make sense? :)
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1 reply · active 878 weeks ago
New tracker will be up Sat. night. I want to make sure all of today's polls are included. Also, 538 has made (another) significant change, which has brought their estimate from 344 down to 320. I like what they're doing - I just wish they would pick an algorithm and settle on it!
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1 reply · active 878 weeks ago
CNN has moved Wisconsin and Minnesota to OL on their map but have not updated the 'date' on the 'main' map. The date for the update is correct here: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/c...
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SarahLawrence Scott · 878 weeks ago

Don't be surprised to see Ohio shift to toss-up in a number of the sources. With the release today of a new SurveyUSA poll at Obama +2, the polls there aren't showing any clear trend. "Toss-up" is probably right for now. As Leah pointed out, Wisconsin and Minnesota are much more clearly trending Obama; expect FHQ to follow CNN in moving Wisconsin to OL at their next update on Sunday. Why do I mention this? Because Ohio is such a big electoral prize that a few shifts in projections might cause the Obama Index to actually go down, even though the general trend still seems to be toward Obama. And since, in my opinion, some sources had Ohio as OL on the basis of a few outlier polls, that is more a case of them shifting toward a more accurate categorization than any real movement toward McCain.

Of course, early next week we should start to see the effect of today's Unity event... :D

--Scott
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SarahLawrence Scott · 878 weeks ago

Not to make trouble, but I just noticed that FiveThirtyEight does classify states as "toss-up," "lean," "likely," and "safe." That's identical to Rasmussen's language. But DCW treats them differently. Rasmussen "likely" is treated as "solid." FiveThirtyEight "likely" is 80-90% as far as I can tell, which DCW treats as "lean." And 60-65% is treated by FiveThirtyEight as "lean," but by DCW as "toss-up." Why do this? Why not just use the FiveThirtyEight labels?
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3 replies · active 878 weeks ago
Election Projection
"Weak" - less than 5%
"Mod" - 5% to less than 10%
"Strong" - 10% to 15%
"Solid" - greater than 15%
Going by those numbers it looks like Solid and Strong should be considered to be the same. Mod should be the leaner and weak the toss up. But DCW has Michigan as OL in the graph for Election Projection (I picked that state as an example because it hasn't changed this week). So what are the percentages that DCW is using when deciding what the cut off is ?
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SarahLawrence Scott · 878 weeks ago

And in the category of doing Matt's work at the same time that he is doubtless doing it, and thus procrastinating on work I SHOULD be doing:

538 claims to have finally settled down. Combining that with assigning DCW categories based on the labels that 538 uses gives the following changes from the current DCW table:

Alaska T to ML
Arkansas ML to M
Arizona ML to M
Kansas ML to M
Minnesota OL to O
Missouri T to ML
Mississippi ML to M
Montana T to ML
North Carolina T to ML
North Dakota T to ML
Nebraska ML to M
South Carolina ML to M
South Dakota T to ML
Tennessee ML to M
Texas ML to M
Virginia OL to T
Wisconsin OL to O
West Virginia T to ML

For the most part, this shifts 538 much more toward the consensus of the other sources--which, of course, means it's away from an Obama blowout.
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Those 'likely' ones at 538 look like LEANERS. Texas at 538 is UNDER 10% and Texas at 9% at Electoral-Vote is considered a leaner.... I wouldn't be so fast to change those LEANERS that are under 10% to solid just yet. Looking forward to seeing what Matt does here at DCW this evening :)
Btw look at 538 Wisconsin 7.9 (likely) and West Virginia 7.7 (lean)
It looks like you can't go by the percentage numbers there on that website.
It might be better to go by the colors on the map instead :)
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New forecast has been posted.
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