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CQ has a story about some Clinton diehards who think she still has a chance to win the nomination if given a chance. The negotiations between the Obama and Clinton camps over when she will be speak and whether her name will be placed in nomination are ongoing, but some things are clear regardless of any political decisions:
- There will be a roll call. From the Call to the Convention, (VIII)(C)(7)(a):
After nominations for presidential candidates have closed, the Convention shall proceed to a roll call vote by states on the selection of the presidential candidate. The roll call voting shall follow the alphabetical order of the states with the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico and the territories treated as states for the purpose of the alphabetical roll call.
- Clinton does not need to be nominated in order for delegates to vote for her. (VIII)(C)(7)(c):
Delegates may vote for the candidate of their choice whether or not the name of such candidate was placed in nomination.Now it is true that Clinton does need to give her permission in order for her to be nominated, and that is what the negotiations are about.
But even a political expert like Craig Crawford gets it wrong:
All the more reason for Obama to make sure that there is no roll call including Clinton's name on the ballot at the national convention.And even Howard Dean gets it wrong:
When asked about the ads criticizing him and Speaker Pelosi for Clinton supposedly not being on the ballot at the convention, he scoffed. Clinton will be on the ballot at the convention.There is no "ballot" at a convention. Delegates can vote for anybody they want to. If delegates want to vote for Clinton, they can, and I don't think there's anything the Obama or the Clinton teams can do to stop it.
Mr Super · 873 weeks ago
DocJess 71p · 873 weeks ago
Chad_Nielson 57p · 873 weeks ago
Scary Thought though.
Dink · 873 weeks ago
Delegates can vote for anyone, but the vote is recorded as "Present" unless Dr. Dean says they have voted for a "Presidential Candidate" (see Article VI of the call), so Stephen Colbert is out of luck.
The American Heritage Dictionary defines ballot as "2. The act, process, or method of voting..." and "3. A list of candidates running for office". If Clinton is nominated she is on that list. If not, delegates can still vote for her - it's the equivalent of a write-in on a paper ballot. Then we can say she received n votes on the first ballot.
SarahLawrence Scott · 873 weeks ago
It will end up looking like an elaborately staged piece of theater, but that's OK--pulling it off will itself show unity...and a kind of closure.
Matt 75p · 873 weeks ago
Clinton talks prime-time on Monday, possibly introduced by Bill, but it's understood, and even encouraged, for Clinton's delegates, especially her pledged delegates, to vote for her.
This actually has an advantage for Obama - it allows him to achieve a "victory" after the roll call on Wednesday, followed by a big demonstration. It could be topped off by Bill Clinton, from the floor, asking the chair to nominate Obama by acclamation, which them allows another big demonstration for Obama.
Ed · 873 weeks ago
Fred_M_Feller 1p · 873 weeks ago
Matt 75p · 873 weeks ago
SarahLawrence Scott · 873 weeks ago