Tuesday, July 29, 2008

Presidential Forecast - 7/29 - The Dog Days

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Obama leads 303-235, no change over the last two forecasts. With Rasmussen moving Ohio from Obama-Lean to Tossup, and 538 moving it the exact opposite way, there's not much in the way of trends.

Please also check out our Senate Forecast and House Forecast.

Map showing consensus of sources. This table will show a state Blue or Red if a majority of the sources show it Leaning or Solid for that candidate. NC moves from Tossup to McCain.

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Note: Only 3 states have shifted categories on the consensus map and not shifted back:
6/18 FL: McCain -> Tossup
7/6 MT: McCain -> Tossup
7/9 NM: Tossup -> Obama

Of special note is NC, which has shifted 4 times between McCain and Tossup.

Unanimous solid states, not shown in the table below:
Solid Obama: CA, CT, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NY, RI, VT - 150 EVs.
Solid McCain: AL, ID, KS, KY, NE, OK, TN, UT, WY - 58 EVs.

The sources are sorted by each projection's estimate of Obama's Electoral Votes (Algorithm at bottom). The states are sorted by the number of electoral votes.

DCW Presidential Forecast
State
EVsOpen LeftElect. Proj.EV.
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FHQ538
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RCPRMCNNNBC.…
Date

7/29.7/29.7/29.7/27.7/29.7/29.7/22.7/24.7/9.
Obama-Strong (O)

236190197175238153210153168
Obama-Lean (OL)

287049475585636842
Tossup (T)

1021071181592113738128139
McCain-Lean (ML)

859591667064626453
McCain-Strong (M)

8776839115499165125136
Obama Total

264260246222293238273221210
McCain Total

172171174157224163227189189
Obama Est.

326319313305303302292284282

Texas
34MLMLMLMLMMLMMM
Florida
27TTTTMLTMLTT
Pennsylvania
21OOLOLTOOLOLOLT
Ohio
20TTMLTOLTTTT
Michigan
17OLOLTTOLTOLTT
Georgia
15MLMLMLMLMMLMMLML
New Jersey
15OOOOLOOLOOLOL
N. Carolina
15MLTTTMLTMLMLML
Virginia
13TTTTTTTTT
Indiana
11TMLTTMLTMMLML
Missouri
11TTTTMLTMLTT
Washington
11OOOOOOLOOLO
Arizona
10MLMLMMMMMMM
Minnesota
10OOLOLOOOLOTOL
Wisconsin
10OOLOOLOOLOOLOL
Colorado
9TTTTOLTOLTT
Louisiana
9MMMMMMMMLM
S. Carolina
8MLMLMLMLMMMMM
Iowa
7OLOLOOLOOLOLTT
Oregon
7OOOLOLOOLOOLOL
Arkansas
6MMLMMMMMMLM
Mississippi
6MMMLMLMMLMMM
Nevada
5TTTTTTTTT
New Mexico
5OOLOLOLOLTOLTT
W. Virginia
5MMLMLMMMMMLM
Maine
4OOOOOOLOOLO
NH
4OLTTTOLTOLTT
Alaska
3MLMMLMLMMLMMML
Delaware
3OOOLOLOOOOO
Montana
3TTOLTTMLMLMLML
N. Dakota
3TMLTTMLMLMLMML
S. Dakota
3MMLTMMLMMLMML


Open LeftElect. Proj.EV.
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FHQ538
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RCPRMCNNNBC.…























































Notes:
538 - FiveThirtyEight - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong (O or M), Lean to Lean (OL or ML), Tossup to Tossup (T)
CNN - Safe mapped to Strong, Leaning to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
Elect. Proj. - Election Projection - Solid and Strong mapped to Strong, Moderate to Lean, Weak to Tossup
EV.com - Electoral-Vote.com - Strong mapped to Strong, Weak to Lean, Barely and Tossup to Tossup
FHQ -
FrontLoading HQ - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup (Dem and Rep) to Tossup
NBC - Base mapped to strong,
Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
OpenLeft - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RM - Rasmussen - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RCP - RealClearPolitics - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup

Here are the states that span 3 categories.

  • Indiana: 4 at Tossup, Rasmussen at McCain-Strong.
  • Iowa: Two at Obama-Strong, NBC and CNN still calling it a Tossup. Only July poll shows Obama up by 10.
  • Minnesota : 4 at Obama-Strong, CNN at Tossup
  • Montana : EV.com at Obama-Lean, 4 at McCain-Lean. EV.com will exactly follow the latest poll if no other poll has been published within the week.
  • New Mexico (NEW): 1 Projection at Obama-Strong, 3 at Tossup. This used to be on the 3 category list, but spanning Obama-Lean to McCain-Lean.
  • North Dakota - CNN at McCain Strong, 3 at Tossup.
  • Ohio (NEW): EV.com at McCain-Lean, 538 at Obama-Lean, everyone else at Tossup
  • Pennsylvania: OpenLeft at Obama-Strong, 2 at Tossup.
  • South Carolina: 1 Tossup, 5 McCain-Strong
  • South Dakota: EV.com at Tossup, 4 at McCain-Strong
We're purposely ignoring Maine and Nebraska CD splits for now to keep things simple. We'll add them in later if we need to.

The overall projection is just a straight average of each projections' estimate of Electoral Votes (EVs) for each candidate. For each projection other than FiveThirtyEight, we give Obama 100% of the EVs in a state that is solid for him, 80% of the EVs for a leaner, 50% of the EVs for a Tossup, 20% of the EVs for state that is McCain-Lean, and 0% of the Solid McCain states. Exact opposite for McCain. For FiveThirtyEight, we use their overall estimate of Obama's EVs, not the state-by-state categories.


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My excitement for watching the projections is dwindling. This is like watching grass grow! I was hoping there would be a bit more movement towards Obama now that he has returned to America after such a successful overseas tour and since McCain has had so many gaffes and flip-flops I had hoped that the American people would have started turning away from McCain a little bit more by now.

The state analysis and blue map here is pretty interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ryan-kauffman/my-bl...

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SarahLawrence Scott · 872 weeks ago

There have been barely any state polls since the trip ended. When those polls come in, we may see more noticeable movement. And in any case, we've got VP's and conventions coming up...
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uplandpoet · 872 weeks ago

Yeah, I know, but I'm with LEah, after the primaries this waiting for late August is killing me:)
I think I saw somewhere that Obama's media coverage is 72% negative while McCains is only 57%, not sure how true that is, how much of it is a function of Obama being THE news, or what, but as the 50 state strategy gets more and more organized, I bet state polls will show a drift in Obama's way, though we probably should keep in mind that he has already got more than the 270 he needs in pretty much every poll. Every EV from here on in ought to get progressively harder to get. This is a country that has voted for a really dumb, some might say evil guy twice in the past 8 yrs (i know, i know, we was robbed, but however you figure it, he got about half the votes both times...), so as boring as it seems, if he sits on 303 all the way til election day, it will still be considered a major win, and i doubt there is one of us who would turn down a guarenteed 270 today!
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There actually was movement all be it slight.

In the good or Obama: in IA, PA & NM 1 source shifted from OL to O / in both ND & AZ 1 shifted from M to ML in OH 1 shifted from T to OL finally in MT 1 shifted from ML to T.

Towards McCain (not quite as much): in MN one shifted from O to OL, in MS 1 shifted from ML to M, and in NC 1 went T to ML.

Not bad. Positive movement for Obama in 7 states and only 3 for McCain. Besides not much new state polls this week..
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Well the news would have to report McCain's gaffes instead of giving his boat load of lies ad buy free air time for the American people to turn away from him. I mean, most people don't dig deeper then what they see on TV, and right now, what they see on TV is a load.
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Right now so much of the newscast seems to be not about what either candidate is saying they will do but about how the proposal will be perceived (i.e. how will it be spun) and about trying to create character stories for the two candidates (e.g. if Obama talks honestly, he is being arrogant by talking down to the voters. If he doesn't talk honestly, he is being arrogant by not thinking the voters will understand complex issues).

I am tired of all the cable networks covering the campaigns as inside baseball. I don't want all of the procedurals about why the candidates are taking stands. Give me what they are saying about the issues (not what they might say or should say). Tell me which ads are actually being run (not what ads might be run) and where the ads are lies.

The stats on the negative coverage confirms what we all have known about the media all along. It's not that they are pro-left or pro-right. They are about tearing down however appears to be leading. Is it any wonder that all of our leaders are negatively perceived.
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FHQ has added a new chart to go along with their map - on the chart all of the states are listed by their color.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

Kentucky will be back on the board! RCP now has it as Obama lean. Not that I really expect Kentucky to go for Obama, but I like widening the map.
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Scott - Don't get too excited. RCP has a new poll today listed for Kentucky - McCain +21
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That makes no sense. We'll hold off adding them to the chart for now - I bet it gets fixed soon.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

Actually, it does make sense. RCP treats states as lean when they are below 15 points in their average. The polls that came out in the last two days were M + 9, replacing an M +25, and M +21, also replacing an M +25. That moved the average down to M +14, which is ML in their system. As I've mentioned before, they don't always follow their own guidelines, but since they identified Kentucky as a possible battleground at the start of their process, they did here.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

"We may be on the verge of moving this out of toss-up"--Chuck Todd commenting on New Mexico, tonight on "Race to the White House." He also said of Indiana and Missouri "frankly, they're both toss-ups." Finally, he said Iowa and Wisconsin are "over."

We'll see if NBC updates their forecast to reflect these comments.
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Three new Quinnipac polls out:
Florida: Obama has 46 percent to McCain's 44 percent
Ohio: Obama has 46 percent to McCain's 44 percent
Pennsylvania: Obama leads McCain 49 - 42 percent
Haven't seen anything about them yet on any of the sources, so things might be getting updated tomorrow.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

Those came out yesterday, and I believe have been incorporated into all the sites that update daily.
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The comment on EV.com blowing in the Montana wind seems to be spot on; they've now got MT as Barely GOP, which maps to Tossup on DCW's summary, since they had a poll today.
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Sitting here wondering about the map that is behind David Plouffe in this new video on the Obama section:
http://www.youtube.com/user/barackobamadotcom?ob=...
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New York Times electoral map - August 2nd
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/whos-...
I think this is the first map that I have seen New Hampshire as a McCain LEAN.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 871 weeks ago

But Virginia is Obama lean--we'll take that trade. :)
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