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Every time Matt posts the most recent Senate numbers, I look at them, consider the sources, and wonder how to many of the professionals could be so far off from what makes more sense.
My analysis doesn’t even start from the same gate, as all the professionals begin with a current Senate split of 51 – 49. I start with 50 – 50, since there appears to be no rational reason to consider someone who has endorsed John McCain, would like to speak at the GOP convention, will be speaking at the Hagee Convention, and is fundamentally opposed to Democratic principles an actual Democrat.
While you may think this is a minor point, Traitor Joe remains a “Caucus-with-the-Democrats” person because that ensures that the Democrats hold the committee chairs and all the other benefits of being the party in power. There are rumours which point to Joe being ousted from the caucus in January, when the majority will definitely be greater.
This matters because when you read the Senate projections for 538, EV, OpenLeft, Crystal Ball, Cook, SSP, CQ and Rothenberg, they are starting AT 51, which will yield a different total when Joe becomes an official Republican. Therefore, when you read that “Senate Projection” line in the DCW Senate Forecast Table, subtract one, unless you think that Joe Lieberman will still be a Democrat in 2009. In the Senate, a single seat matters, and getting to 61 in 2010 really matters. So, when we look at a forecast of 54 versus 58, it’s a bigger deal than “plus four” might indicate numerically.
When you look at the professional projections, with only rare exceptions, they give every possible tilt to the Republican side. Even Chris Bowers at OpenLeft. While no one who has ever read him, spoken with him, or met with him would consider him right wing, even he calls the Oregon race “Lean Republican.” Now, my projection is much higher: I am convinced the Democrats can pick up a minimum of 8 seats (for a total of 58, not 59).
So the question becomes, why would the professionals understate potential 2008 Democratic gains?
1. Professionals Are Professionals
All professionals need to believe that what they are doing is right, and that what makes them “experts” is that they have been correct in the past, and they know “how these things go.”
Example: if you wrench your back and you go to your chiropractor, he/she will adjust you. If you go to your GP/Internist he/she will give you muscle relaxers, if you go to an orthopedic surgeon, he/she will give you a battery of tests to ascertain if you are a surgical candidate. This is what each knows, and believes in.
Political professionals believe that they need to look at historic trends, look at polls, and rely on their gut instincts, honed on years of practice. “Yeah but….” They have a vested interest in being conservative in their projections. If you understate something and it comes out better, you win “closest without going over”, if you overstate, you ramp up expectations, perhaps with dire results. If you hit dead on, you’re a genius.
To do anything else would be to deny what they know. Therefore, in a transformational year, they may not be as willing to look at new trends.
2. Professionals Are People, Too
People have opinions, and people often see what they want to see. Two people can look at the same thing, SEE the same thing, and have two completely different takes on it.
While I’ve been assured that Charlie Cook is middle-of-the-road and non-partisan, I read his most recent National Journal article and read the tone as one of “Woe be to the Republicans, how sad, how sad.” Does that affect the fact that he (along with CQ Politics and Rothenberg) calls Colorado a toss-up when there is not one shred of data that indicates anything other than a Democratic win? I don’t know. I look at a 2:1 money advantage and being up by 9 in the polls as a pretty solid Democratic win for Mark Udall. I might even understand if Cook put it in the “Democratic Lean” column because it’s an open seat – but toss-up?
And what about North Carolina? On my white board, I have it as a toss-up that will go Democratic Lean by the end of summer, and is a likely pick-up by early October. The professionals have it as Republican to Republican Lean. They have access to the same data I do (probably more data) and for some reason they are ignoring the $7.5 million the DNC is pouring into the race, and the fact that Liddy Dole has been burning through cash.
The professionals are probably relying on polls which indicate that 25% of Democrats voting for Obama will cross over and vote for Dole. It doesn’t seem to make sense that so high a percentage of cross-over will be able to survive the coming onslaught of ads and attention.
3. Base Data Can Be Faulty
We all rely on data. And that data is not always so great. Last week, ABC/Washington Post issued polling data with a prime directive of McCain being a better Commander in Chief than Obama. “Yeah, but...” they neglected to print the part of the poll indicating Obama was up 8 points overall over McCain. Had they released all at once, the frame of the conversation would have been “Obama up by 8”, not the Commander in Chief frame.
And this begs the question of how polls are undertaken. Does one push or accept “Don’t Know?” as an answer. Are polls automated or human? What is the order of the responses? Does the order vary? This and many other parameters feed into the poll outcomes, not to mention who is paying for the poll, and what they are endeavoring to ascertain.
There is new info on cell phone polling, wherein Pew postulates that it is statistically insignificant to count cell phones as it raised Obama from +5 over McCain to +8. That IS a difference. And if you read the comments over at Pollster’s review of the article, you’ll see that some other non-professionals think the difference could be even greater.
Will the cell phone differential make a difference to the Senate race? Not necessarily directly, as there is a higher probability that the Obama campaign is attracting younger (read: more likely to be cell only, or cell mostly) voters than Senate competitors. However, in the 17 states with party voting, it could be all the difference in the Senate races.
4. What Does This Mean For The Numbers?
It means that: there is no Republican lean in Alaska nor Oregon; Colorado, New Hampshire, New Mexico and Virginia are done-deal Democratic pick-ups: and Maine and North Carolina are much closer to “Toss-Up” than “Republican”.
So, for me, it is a direct +4 pick-up for the Udall closest to you in both Colorado and New Mexico, Warner in Virginia, and Shaheen in New Hampshire. The rest of my 58 come from 4 of the following (from most likely to least likely): Begich in Alaska, Merkley in Oregon, Allen in Maine, Hagan in North Carolina, Franken in Minnesota, Lunsford in Kentucky and Noriega in Texas.
Ed · 873 weeks ago
Some of the things that you didn't mention which are worth noting: voter registration numbers are important, and in some states that edge is greater than in others. Incumbents, especially those who are considered moderate, will always have a significant advantage. Then there is regional behavior, which isn't always quantifiable: it just is. And of course the ability to raise and spend cash.
Gordon Smith in Oregon is independently wealthy and has the ability to dump mounds of cash into his race. And while he votes for Republican leadership, he is viewed as a moderate in his state. When I consulted in that state in 2004, he was clearly just as popular as Senator Widen.
Kay Hagan in North Carolina has an uphill battle. The DSCC is making it a prime target because we have a lot of potential to turn that state blue. I consulted for Beverly Perdue's primary race for Governor this year and she will is a great candidate to have sharing the top of the ticket. But coattails are tough to extend to Senate races, and Kay Hagan's challenge is not Liddy Dole's biggest adversary - Liddy Dole's biggest opponent in this race is herself.
But the bottom line is that North Carolina has only elected two Democrats to the US Senate in the past 30 years, whereas they have only elected two Republicans to the Governorship. Ever. What this means is that the south is still Democratic at the state level, but Republican at the federal level. And that fact doesn't show up in data, polling or registration.
It doesn't mean we shouldn't compete in these places - we absolutely should. I believe in Governor Dean's 50-state strategy and states like North Carolina are proof that we have to compete now in order to build long-term strength.
Finally, there is never a "done deal" in Democratic politics. Save for 1992 and to a lesser extent 1996, it just hasn't been working out that way for us. Keep in mind that the Republicans were riding strong in 2006 until their house of cards came falling down on them. The same could happen to the Dems if we let up on the gas.
DocJess 71p · 873 weeks ago
From the bottom -- I NEVER believe in not working the campaign -- I believe in raising money, raising awareness, working, getting others involved and doing EVERYTHING to move forward the agenda. I not only believe it, I practice what I preach through deed, action, and my checkbook.
But whenever I hear anyone listing the reason that "we didn't do it before" or "it's rare" -- I say -- THIS is a transformational year. And it's all possible and within reach.
In 1872, Governor Pinchback of Louisiana was sworn in as the first African-American governor. After he left office, there was not another AA guv until Wilder in 1990, and now, we have two (Patrick and Paterson).
Since the 2 AA Senators during reconstruction, there was not another until Brooke in the 60's, followed by Braun, and now Obama.
Scant, small numbers, but there is a trend of POSSIBILITY.
What political professional said in 2006 that in 2008, an African American would have a serious shot at the American presidency? In 2007? He was not "inevitable", Hillary was.
Self-funders? Statistically, unless they have the money level of Corzine or Bloomberg, they tend to lose. I don't know why, but I've seen the data, and will dig it out if you like. Gordon's biggest deficit, though, is not that he can self-fund, but that McCain is going to come by and try to "help".
I'm not a professional political anything -- but I believe that we have a shot at huge numbers this year: I see it on the faces of the volunteers who have never worked an election before. Not just the young kids, but people in their 50s, 60's and older who have been waiting for a chance to be heard, to participate in something worthwhile. I see it in the people who are registering to vote (and I'm out EVERY week) -- they want to be a part of it all -- after they fill out their forms, they ask for a button, and how they can sign up to help.
I know the problem with non-extending coattails, but the frame for that is the Clintons, who lived in campaign mode, and didn't work a 50 state program, nor a reach-down program.
And Ed, whether I'm right or not, I bet that in your heart, you hope I am....
Jessica
Jack · 873 weeks ago
From all I've read, it will be hard to unseat Dole. She does have a very big lead in polls and a decent amount of money, and there are still enough staunch Republicans to keep her over the top. I'm not saying it's an impossible pickup, but I do think it's unlikely.
When you list the most likely pickups in the last paragraph, why don't you include Musgrove of Mississippi? Most rate it as a tossup and the polls there have consistently been extremely close.
Edh · 873 weeks ago
As far as McCain spending time in Oregon, if it looks like the state is in play for Republicans - which it might be as Oregon is a light blue state and not a dark blue state - than that could spell trouble for Gordon. But down-ballot candidates have a way of distancing themselves from the top of the ticket when they need to do so (North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley coasted to re-election in 2004 in part by distancing himself from Kerry) so we shall see.
Either way, the enthusiasm we are seeing this year is phenomenal and when I look at the map I see Democrats winning by anywhere from 5 to 55 electoral votes. The times they are a-changin' and I only hope that the forthcoming attacks from the GOP are not taken seriously by the electorate!
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