Friday, July 18, 2008

Presidential Forecast - 7/18 - Status Quo

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Update 7/18: Latest projection: Obama leads 305-233, no change from the July 15 or July 13 forecasts. When the primaries ended in early June, it was thought we'd have a month of movement, followed by status quo until the VP picks and the conventions. That seems to be where we are.

Please also check out our Senate Forecast and House Forecast.

Map showing consensus of sources. This table will show a state Blue or Red if a majority of the sources show it Leaning or Solid for that candidate.

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Unanimous solid states, not shown in the table below:
Solid Obama: CA, CT, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NY, RI, VT - 150 EVs.
Solid McCain: AL, ID, KS, KY, NE, OK, TN, UT, WY - 58 EVs.

The sources are sorted by each projection's estimate of Obama's Electoral Votes (Algorithm at bottom). The states are sorted by the number of electoral votes.

DCW Presidential Forecast
State
EVsOpen LeftElect. Proj.EV.
com
RCPFHQRM538.comCNNNBC....
Date

7/187/187/187/157/167/167/186/277/9
Obama-Strong (O)

227204211153175210210153168
Obama-Lean (OL)

6660351024783637842
Tossup (T)

611031141201671838113139
McCain-Lean (ML)

979895735862706953
McCain-Strong (M)

8773839091165154125136
Obama Total

293264246255222293273231210
McCain Total

184171178163149227224194189
Obama Est.

330323315309308298292286282

Texas
34MLMLMLMLMLMMMM
Florida
27MLTMLTTMLMLTT
Pennsylvania
21OLOLTOLTOLOLOLT
Ohio
20OLTTTTOLTTT
Michigan
17OOLOLOLTOLOLTT
Georgia
15MLMLMLMLMLMMMLML
New Jersey
15OOOOLOLOOOLOL
N. Carolina
15TTTTTMLMLMLML
Virginia
13TTTTTTTTT
Indiana
11TMLTTTMMLMLML
Missouri
11TTTTTMLMLTT
Washington
11OOOOLOOOOLO
Arizona
10MLMLMMMMMMM
Minnesota
10OOOOLOOOOLOL
Wisconsin
10OOLOOLOLOOOLOL
Colorado
9OLTTTTOLOLTT
Louisiana
9MMMMLMMMMLM
S. Carolina
8MLMLMLMTMMMM
Iowa
7OLOLOOLOLOLOLTT
Oregon
7OOOLOLOLOOOLOL
Arkansas
6MMLMMMMMMLM
Mississippi
6MMLMLMLMLMMMM
Nevada
5TTTTTTTTT
New Mexico
5OLOLOLTOLOLOLMLT
W. Virginia
5MMLMLMMMMMLM
Maine
4OOOOLOOOOLO
NH
4OLOOTTOLOLTT
Alaska
3MLMTMLMLMMMML
Delaware
3OOOLOOLOOOO
Montana
3TTOLMLTMLMLMLML
N. Dakota
3TMTMLTMLMLMML
S. Dakota
3MMLTMMMLMMML


Open LeftElect. Proj.EV.
com
RCPFHQRM538.comCNNNBC....




























































Notes:
538 - FiveThirtyEight - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong (O or M), Lean to Lean (OL or ML), Tossup to Tossup (T)
CNN - Safe mapped to Strong, Leaning to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
Elect. Proj. - Election Projection - Solid and Strong mapped to Strong, Moderate to Lean, Weak to Tossup
EV.com - Electoral-Vote.com - Strong mapped to Strong, Weak to Lean, Barely and Tossup to Tossup
FHQ -
FrontLoading HQ - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup (Dem and Rep) to Tossup
NBC - Base mapped to strong,
Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
OpenLeft - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RM - Rasmussen - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RCP - RealClearPolitics - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup

Here are the states that span 3 categories.
  • Alaska: Now only 1 at Tossup, 4 at McCain-Strong. Rasmussen's own poll shows McCain only up by 4, yet they still have AK as Likely-Republican, which we convert to McCain-Strong.
  • Indiana: 4 at Tossup, Rasmussen at McCain-Strong.
  • Iowa: One at Obama-Strong, NBC and CNN still calling it a Tossup.
  • Michigan: 1 Obama-Strong, 3 Tossups.
  • Montana : EV.com at Obama-Lean, 5 at McCain-Lean. EV.com will exactly follow the latest poll if no other poll has been published within the week.
  • New Hampshire: 4 at Tossup, 2 at Obama-Strong.
  • New Mexico: Six projections have it as Obama-Lean, CNN has it at McCain-Lean. Two recent polls show Obama up by 3 and 8 points.
  • North Dakota - Three now at tossup. Now that we finally have a recent poll, all tied at 43, it's the 2 McCain-Strongs, Election Projection and CNN that are the outliers. EP uses a formula that essentially treats the 2004 results as a recent state poll (modified by differences in the national numbers, which would move the ND results from 2004 by 5-6 points). But until more ND polls come out, the '04 results are going to be a drag on their projection. This is also effecting their Alaska projection. CNN - well, they're just lazy.
  • Oregon - 1 Tossup, 3 Obama-Strong.
  • Pennsylvania: 1 Obama-Strong, 3 Tossups.
  • South Carolina: 1 Tossup, 5 McCain-Strong
  • South Dakota: 1 Tossup, 5 McCain-Strong
We're purposely ignoring Maine and Nebraska CD splits for now to keep things simple. We'll add them in later if we need to.

The overall projection is just a straight average of each projections' estimate of Electoral Votes (EVs) for each candidate. For each projection other than FiveThirtyEight, we give Obama 100% of the EVs in a state that is solid for him, 80% of the EVs for a leaner, 50% of the EVs for a Tossup, 20% of the EVs for state that is McCain-Lean, and 0% of the Solid McCain states. Exact opposite for McCain. For FiveThirtyEight, we use their overall estimate of Obama's EVs, not the state-by-state categories.


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Even though there hasn't been a change in the numbers for a week or so - it does look like there has been a change in some of the states/sources moving from McCain dark red (M) to pink (ML) and a few OL turned to O - so I am a happy camper this week ;)
Matt - the graph is looking pretty spiffy :)
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If you want a really good laugh - look at this map from May 2008
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2019367/...
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uplandpoet · 871 weeks ago

leah, but even in may, it was an unlikely dream map for those hardcasers over at freerepubs. i doubt we will obama get 393 evs, but i am pretty sure his chances for a 400 EV sweep is better than McCains!
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Indeed Leah - you are correct. Changes in favor of Obama in WA, MN, OR, IA, MI, NV, MO, and SD just in the last four days. There were some changes in McCain's directio as well (9 states actually) so one more than Obama. :-(

But for the month (6-18 to 7-18) Obama saw significant improvement in 11 states while McCain only 3. :-)
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BTW I calculate support in states based on a number system. 3 pts for every O, 1 pt for an OL, 0 for T, -1 for an ML and -3 for an M thus I can sort the states based on how likely these 9 sources say an Obama win is. Thus 27 is the Obama "number" if all 9 sources say that the state is Obama Strong. If 4 say strong and five say lean then the Obama number is 17. 8 say tossup and one says ML then the Obama number is -1.

It therefore is real easy to track changes over time in each state and better see the slight movements (in comparison to ordering the states by EVs.
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McCain has been spending more on advertising this past month while Obama has been spending more on field organization. The fact that he still trails on the map can't be good news. Even worse news is that both the Prime Minister of Iraq and the President of Afghanistan sound like they like Obama's plan for the Middle East (while staying officially uncommitted). I don't think the map will change much over the next month or so, but would not be shocked by a slight swing towards Obama
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uplandpoet · 871 weeks ago

not to mention that GWB has suddenly adopted most of Obama's approach to Iraq....
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Photos of Obama's plane makeover - inside and out...
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/07/20/obamas...
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Looking forward to the day when this state-by-state game will be moot . . .

The real issue is not how well Obama or McCain might do in the closely divided battleground states, but that we shouldn't have battleground states and spectator states in the first place. Every vote in every state should be politically relevant in a presidential election. And, every vote should be equal. We should have a national popular vote for President in which the White House goes to the candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral vote -- that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Because of state-by-state enacted rules for winner-take-all awarding of their electoral votes, recent candidates with limited funds in 2004 concentrated their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. Two-thirds of the visits and money were focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money went to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people were merely spectators to the presidential election.

Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.

The National Popular Vote bill has been approved by 20 legislative chambers (one house in Colorado, Arkansas, Maine, Massachusetts, North Carolina, and Washington, and two houses in Maryland, Illinois, Hawaii, California, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont). It has been enacted into law in Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These states have 50 (19%) of the 270 electoral votes needed to bring this legislation into effect.

See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
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You may have answered this in another comment thread, but could one of the mods please ban susan? She posts this popular vote thing in every Presidential Forecast thread, and it's getting a bit tedious, not to mention off-topic.
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uplandpoet · 871 weeks ago

not to mention, that the way she and others wanna go about it will not work, there is a simple way, and it is already available, if the people want it. anyone interested, can go to an old myspace blog of mine for details, but i agree with mint republic, nothing changes in the middle of an election. we have to win them the way they are right now, and that is fine by me!

proportional representation... electoral college mess
Category: News and Politics

I posted a blog on Jan 10, 2008 at myspace.com/uplandpoet, if anyone cares to read my thoughts, or you can follow the link to my source sight, either way, i will not be reposting this information anywhere else on this site!
See if this helps: (well dernit, the graphs do not come through! you can go to this link:
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/72/30340...
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Something's not right...
OHIO
Monday Obama +8 (PPP)
Tuesday McCain +10 (Rasmussen)

This goes to show that polls should be taken with a grain of salt!
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uplandpoet · 871 weeks ago

Leah, PPP, is a Democratic service and Rasmussen is supposed to be independent, but they, if my memory serves me, tended to be very conservative regarding obama during the primaries, but yeah, when you are sampling a few hundred people to represent a few million, you can bet a little bias in the system or just get a bad sample and you have a wide variation, but over time, onver a range of polls, and especially if you learn that certain polls tend to be generous or conservative for your party, candidate or position, and you can get a pretty good idea.
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Hey Leah, just thought I'd point you in the direction of some interesting commentary on the Ohio polls over at FiveThirtyEight (since I have nothing original to add myself):

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/07/todays-pol...
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/07/dueling-oh...

Worth a read, IMHO.
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New forecast is up.
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