Saturday, July 26, 2008

Presidential Forecast - 7/25 - Mixed messages

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Obama leads 303-235, even with the our previous forecast. McCain gains in MN, MI and OH, Obama in PA and FL. (Initial post had it as 304-224, but there were errors as noted in the comments).

Please also check out our Senate Forecast and House Forecast.

Map showing consensus of sources. This table will show a state Blue or Red if a majority of the sources show it Leaning or Solid for that candidate. MI moves from Obama to Tossup.

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Unanimous solid states, not shown in the table below:
Solid Obama: CA, CT, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NY, RI, VT - 150 EVs.
Solid McCain: AL, ID, KS, KY, NE, OK, TN, UT, WY - 58 EVs.

The sources are sorted by each projection's estimate of Obama's Electoral Votes (Algorithm at bottom). The states are sorted by the number of electoral votes.

DCW Presidential Forecast
State
EVsOpen LeftElect. Proj.EV.
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FHQRCP538
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Date

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Obama-Strong (O)

210200197175153231210153168
Obama-Lean (OL)

546049478542636842
Tossup (T)

1171071181671373838128139
McCain-Lean (ML)

709891586473626453
McCain-Strong (M)

8773839199154165125136
Obama Total

264260246222238273273221210
McCain Total

157171174149163227227189189
Obama Est.

326321313308302297292284282

Texas
34MLMLMLMLMLMMMM
Florida
27TTTTTMLMLTT
Pennsylvania
21OLOLOLTOLOOLOLT
Ohio
20TTMLTTTTTT
Michigan
17OLOLTTTOLOLTT
Georgia
15MLMLMLMLMLMMMLML
New Jersey
15OOOOLOLOOOLOL
N. Carolina
15TTTTTMLMLMLML
Virginia
13TTTTTTTTT
Indiana
11TMLTTTMLMMLML
Missouri
11TTTTTMLMLTT
Washington
11OOOOOLOOOLO
Arizona
10MLMLMMMMMMM
Minnesota
10OOOLOOLOOTOL
Wisconsin
10OOLOOLOLOOOLOL
Colorado
9TTTTTOLOLTT
Louisiana
9MMMMMMMMLM
S. Carolina
8MLMLMLTMMMMM
Iowa
7OLOLOOLOLOLOLTT
Oregon
7OOOLOLOLOOOLOL
Arkansas
6MMLMMMMMMLM
Mississippi
6MMLMLMLMLMMMM
Nevada
5TTTTTTTTT
New Mexico
5OLOLOLOLTOLOLTT
W. Virginia
5MMLMLMMMMMLM
Maine
4OOOOOLOOOLO
NH
4OLTTTTOLOLTT
Alaska
3MLMMLMLMLMMMML
Delaware
3OOOLOLOOOOO
Montana
3TTOLTMLMLMLMLML
N. Dakota
3TMTTMLMLMLMML
S. Dakota
3MMLTMMMLMLMML


Open LeftElect. Proj.EV.
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FHQRCP538
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Notes:
538 - FiveThirtyEight - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong (O or M), Lean to Lean (OL or ML), Tossup to Tossup (T)
CNN - Safe mapped to Strong, Leaning to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
Elect. Proj. - Election Projection - Solid and Strong mapped to Strong, Moderate to Lean, Weak to Tossup
EV.com - Electoral-Vote.com - Strong mapped to Strong, Weak to Lean, Barely and Tossup to Tossup
FHQ -
FrontLoading HQ - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup (Dem and Rep) to Tossup
NBC - Base mapped to strong,
Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
OpenLeft - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RM - Rasmussen - Safe and Likely mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup
RCP - RealClearPolitics - Solid mapped to Strong, Lean to Lean, Tossup to Tossup

Here are the states that span 3 categories.

  • Indiana: 4 at Tossup, Rasmussen at McCain-Strong.
  • Iowa: One at Obama-Strong, NBC and CNN still calling it a Tossup.
  • Minnesota (NEW): 5 at Obama-Strong, 1 at Tossup
  • Montana : EV.com at Obama-Lean, 5 at McCain-Lean. EV.com will exactly follow the latest poll if no other poll has been published within the week.
  • New Mexico: Six projections have it as Obama-Lean, CNN has it at McCain-Lean. Two recent polls show Obama up by 3 and 8 points.
  • North Dakota - 2 at McCain Strong, 3 at Tossup.
  • Pennsylvania (NEW): 1 Obama-Strong, 2 at Tossup.
  • South Carolina: 1 Tossup, 5 McCain-Strong
  • South Dakota: 1 Tossup, 4 McCain-Strong
We're purposely ignoring Maine and Nebraska CD splits for now to keep things simple. We'll add them in later if we need to.

The overall projection is just a straight average of each projections' estimate of Electoral Votes (EVs) for each candidate. For each projection other than FiveThirtyEight, we give Obama 100% of the EVs in a state that is solid for him, 80% of the EVs for a leaner, 50% of the EVs for a Tossup, 20% of the EVs for state that is McCain-Lean, and 0% of the Solid McCain states. Exact opposite for McCain. For FiveThirtyEight, we use their overall estimate of Obama's EVs, not the state-by-state categories.


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Election Projection - Ohio and NH should be toss-ups.
I am a bit confused here - what's up?
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Also, Election Projection North Dakota Strong McCain.
I don't know if that is all of them - I normally only keep track of the toss-ups and dates ;)
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SarahLawrence Scott · 872 weeks ago

This is a little off-topic, but it relates to polling, so I thought I'd put it here.

My winner for arrogant statement of the day goes to not a candidate, not a campaign, not a pundit, but--a pollster?!?

Here's a quote from today's Gallup release:

"While Obama may have thus far received a modest bounce from the massive publicity surrounding this week's trip, his ability to sustain or build on that -- as opposed to having it dissipate along with news coverage of the trip -- could hinge on how the major U.S. media outlets and conservative vs. liberal commentators portray his performance abroad in the coming days. -- Lydia Saad"

Lydia apparently thinks voters have no ability to think for themselves.
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I predict the next three states that DCW will move off of the chart will be Maine, Delaware, and Washington... Ohio will go completely toss-up and a record will be set at DCW for three consensus toss-up states ... over the next week or so more McCain solids will turn lean... and and and and Texas will turn BLUE ;)
McCain has been so very negative and grumpy lately that I don't see any gains for him in the near future. I am still worried that because he is doing so poorly that the GOP will vote someone else in at their convention and then the game will be changed.
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Yippeeee!!!
The Pollster Map has ARIZONA as a Toss-up
http://www.pollster.com/polls/2008president/
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Okay this is irritating... 538.com had SIX states as Toss-ups (CO, FL, NM, NV, OH, VA) right 'before' DCW updated then at the time of day when DCW updated 538.com was showing only THREE states as Toss-ups (NV, OH, PA). Then today 538.com had those same three Toss-ups and now they have added Colorado as a Toss-up. 538.com (in my opinion) has too narrow of a percentage of what they consider a Toss-up vs. a Lean! So, as I have been keeping a close eye on 538.com all week what DCW is showing in no way reflects what has been going on over at 538.com.
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SarahLawrence Scott · 872 weeks ago

Take a breath Leah, we still have three plus months to go. :D

On the Pollster map, this is a problem some of us have been discussing in the 538 comments. Both 538 and Pollster rely partially on trends. To oversimplify, if a state goes from +20 to +10, the site predicts it goes to 0. The problem with that is that the +20 to +10 was a change in soft voters, but the +10 to 0 represents changing the minds of voters who are more committed. So that's what's up there.

538 has fewer toss-ups because their whole shtick is that they're doing better than polling by including demographics, trends, etc.. I don't know if they're right, but it's at the core of what they do. On the other hand, I've been jumping up and down over there complaining that they're misinterpreting the July Rasmussen state polls, which are about half of the recent state polls. It's distorting their trends and swinging things more toward McCain than they should. Then the effect will wear off, and stuff will swing back toward Obama (all else being equal). So 538 will be more volatile than they should be for a while.

For Washington to go off the board, CNN has to get over their idea that everything from Illinois to the Cascades is solid McCain country. Iowa, Minnesota, and North Dakota are more examples of this.

For Delaware to go off the board, someone has to poll it! No one has since February.

My bet? Watch for New Jersey to go off the board! My hunch is the overseas trip will help a lot there, and with the past history of Democrats pulling away there at the end, a few polls at Obama +15 will convince everyone it's out of reach.

And I'll continue the optimism on other states: I think Florida, Ohio, and Virginia start showing some Obama leans, and Pennsylvania loses its toss-ups. If those things happen, the R's will be quaking in their boots...
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What's with this -

It is just one poll, folks, but the latest USA Today/Gallup survey suggests McCain jumped 10 points since last month.
McCain 49, Obama 45
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I've contacted the campaign 5-6 times in the past few weeks trying to fix a problem with a donation. The first few times were by email and even though I put progressively bigger remarks in front saying HUMAN READ THIS and the like, I only got canned responses. Then I phoned two weeks ago and someone said they'd take care of it. Nothing. So I phoned again yesterday and left a message. Not exactly the well-oiled machine I hear talked about. I've ponied up nearly $1000 in dribs and drabs, you'd think they could correct an error.
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I love this ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ryan-kauffman/my-bl...
great article and great map!
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New forecast is posted.
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